GUILTY.
NOW FOR SOMETHING TOTALLY
DIFFERENT.
AINSLEY: THANK YOU, BRIAN.
WE HAVE ALL SEEN THE WORK
VICE PRESIDENT PENCE HAS
DONE FOR OUR COUNTRY AND
NEARLY TWO DECADES OF
POLITICAL SERVICE.
WHAT IS HE LIKE AS A FATHER?
STEVE: GOOD QUESTION.
BRAND NEW BOOK GIVES AN
UPCLOSE AND PERSONAL LOOK AT
THE PENCE FAMILY THROUGH THE
EYES OF ONE OF THE VICE
PRESIDENT'S CHILDREN.
IT'S CALLED WHERE YOU GO.
LIFE LESSONS FROM MY FATHER.
THE AUTHOR CHARLOTTE PENCE
JOINS US RIGHT NOW, LIVE.
LET'S START WITH THAT
PICTURE.
WHERE IS IT.
>> IT'S FROM.
SANDRA: BELL FLORIDA.
>> SO MANY BOOM THINGS TO
TALK ABOUT.
HOW DO YOU FACED A VERSE
CITY BEING IN A POLITICAL
FAMILY BECAUSE THERE IS SOME
NASTY HEADLINES OUT THRNCHT
YEAH.
MY DAD HAS ALWAYS REALLY
TAUGHT US THAT, YOU KNOW,
WHEN WE SEE PROTESTERS, HE
ALWAYS HAS THIS THING THAT
HE SAYS THAT'S WHAT FREEDOM
LOOKS LIKE.
SO FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE WE
ALWAYS KNEW THAT WAS PART OF
THE JOB.
PART OF PUBLIC LIFE WAS THAT
YOU MIGHT TAKE CRITICISM BUT
THAT MEANS THAT THE AMERICAN
SYSTEM IS WORKING THE WAY
IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.
STEVE: SO WHEN YOU WERE
GROWING UP, WHAT WERE SOME
OF THE THINGS YOU DIDN'T
REALIZE AT THE TIME MY DAD
IS GIVING ME A LIFE LESSON
BUT TURNS OUT IT WAS ADVICE
THEN THAT CAN HELP ANYBODY
NOW.
>> OH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
MY DAD ALWAYS TELLS PEOPLE
TO SPEAK THEIR DREAMS.
AND WHEN HE MEETS PEOPLE ON
THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND EVEN
WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID, HE
WAS ALWAYS TELLING US TO
TELL PEOPLE WHAT OUR DREAMS
WERE.
SO HE WRITES THE FORWARD FOR
THE BOOK AND IN IT HE TALKS
ABOUT TELLING ME THAT I WAS
A WRITER FROM A YOUNG AGE,
WHICH WAS JUST VERY
ENCOURAGING TO ME.
AINSLEY: IN THE FORWARD HE
TALKS ABOUT YOU BEING THE AT
THIS
TYIS
TYPICAL MIDDLE CHILD
THOUGHTFUL.
I SAW YOU ON THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
STEVE: SQUASHING DAD IN THAT
PICTURE OH, WOW.
AINSLEY: WHAT'S IT LIKE TO
BE A PART OF THE PENCE
FAMILY.
YOUR FAMILY SEEMS FROM THE
OUTSIDE WORLD TO BE VERY,
VERY CLOSE.
EVERY TIME I INTERVIEW YOUR
DAD YOUR MOM IS WITH HIM
EVEN ON THE BORDER.
SHE TRAVELS EVERYWHERE WITH
HIM.
EVEN ON THE BORDER.
EVAN IN YOUR HOUSE BEFORE.
HAVE YOU SCRIPTINGS ON THE
WALL THAT ARE FRAMED.
WHAT'S IT LIKE TO BE WHEN
THE DOOR CLOSES, WHAT'S IT
LIKE TO BE INSIDE THE PENCE
HOUSEHOLD.
>> I TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK
THAT WE KIND OF REFER TO
OURSELVES AS A CIRCLE.
THAT KIND OF ONCE YOU ARE IN
THE CIRCLE YOU ARE NEVER
OUT.
AND SO IT WAS A SPECIAL TIME
ESPECIALLY ON THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL FOR US TO TEST THAT
CIRCLE EVEN WHEN WE ARE
PHYSICALLY SEPARATED.
THE TITLE OF THE BOOK IS
KIND OF THAT THEME OF WHERE
YOU GO I WILL GO WITH YOU.
AND SO.
AINSLEY: THAT'S FROM THE
BOOK OF RUTH.
>> YEAH, I THINK OUR FAMILY
STAYS CLOSE AND WE SUPPORT
ONE ANOTHER FROM WHEREVER WE
ARE.
STEVE: THERE IS EXCERPT FROM
THE BOOK WE ARE GOING TO
READ.
THIS IS YOUR FATHER TALKING
TO BARON TRUMP, THE
PRESIDENT'S SON, AFTER THE
ELECTION RESULTS CAME IN
THAT NIGHT.
AND YOU WRITE: YOU WANT TO
READ THIS.
>> SURE, YEAH.
I OVERHEARD DAD TALKING TO
BARON RIGHT AFTER.
IT WAS A MOVING EXCHANGE.
DAD TOLD BARON HAD CASS GOOD
FOR THE COUNTRY HIS DAD WAS
GOING TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
AND HE THANKED THE YOUNGEST
TRUMP FOR LETTING US SHARE
THIS WITH YOU.
STEVE: DOES THAT SOUND
FAMILIAR?
>> YEAH.
IT WAS GREAT.
THAT NIGHT WAS AMAZING
ELECTION NIGHT.
GUY INTO DETAIL ABOUT IT IN
THE BOOK.
THAT WAS REALLY SPECIAL FOR
US TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT
EXPERIENCE WITH THE TRUMPS.
AND THEY REALLY DID INCLUDE
US IN THE SAME WAY MY DAD IS
INCLUDED MY SIBLINGS AND I
IN EVERYTHING WE WANT TO DO
WITH THEM.
STEVE: SURE, ON THE BIGGEST
NIGHT OF YOUR DAD'S
POLITICAL LIFE HE SPENDS
TIME TALKING TO THE
PRESIDENT'S LITTLE CHILD,
SMALLEST CHILD.
>> YEAH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THEIR FAMILY
WAS SO INCLUSIVE AND
SUPPORTIVE OF US THE WHOLE
TIME.
AND THEY WERE JUST REALLY
AMAZING TO WATCH.
THEY ARE A STRONG UNION
REALLY INSPIRED ME.
AINSLEY: WHAT'S SOMETHING WE
DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOUR DAD
THAT YOU WRITE ABOUT?
>> I WRITE ABOUT I WANT
PEOPLE TO SEE HOW GREAT OF A
DAD HE IS.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE
OF THE THINGS HE SAYS ALL
THE TIME IS KIND OF CORNY,
BIGGEST TITLE HE WILL EVER
HOLD IS THE TITLE OF DAD.
AND I HOPE THAT THAT COMES
ACROSS THAT HE HAS HELD THAT
TITLE VERY WELL.
AINSLEY: I LOVE THE IDEA OF
WHAT YOU DID IN THE LAST
CHAPTER.
YOU WROTE A LETTER TO YOUR
CHILDREN.
>> YEAH.
AINSLEY: READ THAT LETTER.
GIVE YOU A GOOD IDEA.
YOU DON'T HAVE KIDS YET TO
GO AHEAD AND WRITE A LETTER