save on homeowners and condo insurance.
>>> SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO WALK. condo insurance.
>>> SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO WALK. AND THIS WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE
TIMES.
TIMES.
I COULD HAVE 100% SIGNED
SOMETHING TODAY. WE ACTUALLY HAD PAPERS READY TO
BE SIGNED.
BE SIGNED.
IT JUST WASNT APPROPRIATE. I WANT TO DO IT RIGHT.ATE.
I WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. I WOULD MUCH RATHER DO IT RIGHT
THAN DO IT FAST.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ON HIS WAY
BACK FROM HANOI WITHOUT A DEAL
AFTER TALKS WITH NORTH KOREAS
LEADER KIM JONG-UN ABRUPTLY
BROKE DOWN.
BROKE DOWN. THE TWO LEADERS FAILING TO AGREE
ON ANY STEPS TOWARDS
DENUCLEARIZATION OF THE NORTH.
THE PRESIDENT AND KIM SKIPPING A
PLANNED LUNCH MEETING AND A
JOINT STATEMENT THAT HAD BEEN
SCHEDULED.
SCHEDULED.
JOINING ME NOW, AMBASSADOR NICK
BURNS, FORMER UNDERSECRETARY OF STATE FOR POLITICAL AFFAIRS AND
SENIOR NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST
MICHAEL LEITER.
MICHAEL LEITER.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THATS
TWO MEN COULD HAVE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT ALL THOSE HOURS, YET THEY CUT SHORT THEIR MEETING.ET THEY
CUT SHORT THEIR MEETING. YOU WOULD THINK, NICK BURNS,
THEY COULD HAVE FOUND THINGS TO
FILL OUT THE SCHEDULE.
HOW ABOUT BRINGING UP HUMAN RIGHTS?UT BRINGING UP HUMAN
RIGHTS?
HOW ABOUT NOT ACCEPTING KIM JONG-UNS DENIAL THAT HE KNEW
ANYTHING ABOUT OTTO WARMBIERS
DEATH?
DEATH?
>> IT WAS STRIKING, ANDREA, THIS MEETING ENDED SO ABRUPTLYA, THIS
MEETING ENDED SO ABRUPTLY WITHOUT LUNCH EVEN BEING SERVED.
YOURE RIGHT, THERE WAS A LOT TO
TALK ABOUT.
KIM HAS NOT DISMANTLED ANY PART OF HIS NUCLEAR APPARATUS, HESRT
OF HIS NUCLEAR APPARATUS, HES NOT SERIOUS, OBVIOUSLY, ABOUT
THESE TALKS.
THE DEMAND THAT WE LIFT ALL SANCTIONS WAS A VERY BAD DEAL.
THE PRESIDENT WAS RIGHT TO WALK
AWAY FROM IT.
BUT I THINK THE PRESIDENT REALLY
MISSTEPPED ON THE QUESTION OF OTTO WARMBIER, THE AMERICANOF
OTTO WARMBIER, THE AMERICAN STUDENT WHO WAS BRUTALIZED AND
MURDERED BY THE NORTH KOREAN
REGIME.
FOR THE PRESIDENT TO ESSENTIALLY LET KIM JONG-UN OFF THE HOOKALLY
LET KIM JONG-UN OFF THE HOOK WHEN HES AN AUTHORITARIAN
DICTATOR WHO RUNS A MAFIOSO STATE, HES RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT
HAPPENS IN THAT PRESIDENT.
THE PRESIDENT DIDNT STAND UP FOR OTTO WARMBIER AND HIS UP
FOR OTTO WARMBIER AND HIS FAMILY.
FAMILY.
IT WAS A LOW POINT FOR HIM. THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO RETHINK
HIS STRATEGY.
HIS STRATEGY.
HE NEEDS TO GET CHINA, SOUTH KOREA, TOGETHER ON SANCTIONS.
KIM IS NOW CREDIBLE, HES
EMERGED FROM HIS ISOLATION.
IF YOURE GRADING THIS ON POINTS, KIM IS THE WINNER OF
THESE TWO SUMMITS.
>> THE FACT IS THAT THE FIRST
SUMMIT WAS WIDELY CRITICIZED
BECAUSE THEY DIDNT GET ANYTHING
OUT OF IT AND THEY CLAIM THEY
DID.
THE PRESIDENT CLAIMING, MICHAEL, INACCURATELY, THAT KIM HADCHAEL,
INACCURATELY, THAT KIM HAD AGREED TO DENUCLEARIZE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF
GLOSSING OVER THE FACT THAT POMPEO GOES, DOESNT GET AAT
POMPEO GOES, DOESNT GET A MEETING, GETS STIFFED, DOESNT
GET TO MEET WITH KIM JONG-UN,
THAT THEY NEVER GET THE
INVENTORY OF THEIR ARSENAL, THEY
DONT HAVE THE BASIS TO BEGIN NEGOTIATING DISMANTLING THEN
NEGOTIATING DISMANTLING THE NUKES.
NUKES.
>> THERES NO DOUBT AT ALL THAT THE PRESIDENT SET EXTREMELY HIGH
EXPECTATIONS FROM BEFORE THE
FIRST SUMMIT THROUGH THIS ONE
AND HE DIDNT REMOTELY MEET
THEM.
ALL THAT SAID, ANDREA, I HAVE A LITTLE MORE SAMEYMPATHY THAN NIC
DOES.
DOES.
I AGREE COMPLETELY THAT HUMAN RIGHTS HAVENT BEEN BROUGHT UP,
BECAUSE ITS A CENTRAL PROBLEM
WITH THE KOREAN REGIME.
ALL THAT BEING SAID, TO THE
EXTENT THAT WE ARE AT LEAST NOW TALKING, THATS A GOOD THING.NOW
TALKING, THATS A GOOD THING.
AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHERE WE
WERE AT THE END OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, AND FRANKLY EVEN
WORSE, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
AND IF NOTHING ELSE, THIS YEAR OR SO OF ENGAGEMENT SEEMS TOAR
OR SO OF ENGAGEMENT SEEMS TO HAVE CALMED DOWN OUR PRESIDENT
AND GOTTEN OUR PRESIDENT,
PRESIDENT TRUMP, TO LOOK AT KOREA AS A REAL PROBLEM WORTH
ENGAGEMENT AND NOT JUST REALLY
BLATH
BLATH
BLATHERING ON WITH THREATS, A SILVER LINING TO WHAT WASS, A
SILVER LINING TO WHAT WAS CLEARLY NOT A SUCCESSFUL SUMMIT.
>> IT DOES STRIKE ME, TO BOTH OF
YOU, PRESIDENT TRUMP RELIES SO MUCH ON HIS POWER OF MAKING SO
MUCH ON HIS POWER OF MAKING DEALS, THE ART OF PERSONALITY,
THE PEN PAL SUMMIT, IF YOU WILL,
AND IT REMINDED ME, ITS NOT A
PERFECT ANALOGY, NICK, OF WHAT
WE WENT THROUGH WITH REYKJAVIK,
AFTER GENEVA IN 1985, EVERYONE
WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW REAGAN AND
GORBACHEV COULD WORK WITH EACH
OTHER AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU
GET INTO REYKJAVIK AND A DEMAND IS MADE, AND REAGANAND A DEMAND
IS MADE, AND REAGAN APPROPRIATELY WALKED AWAY FROM
IT, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE
EXACTLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
THIS HAD THAT KIND OF FEEL.
YOU WERE KIND OF GLAD THAT MIKE
POMPEO WAS THERE, THE GUARDIANS
WERE THERE TO SAY, YOU CANT
RELY ON THIS GUY AND KEEP TALKING ABOUT HIM AS, QUOTE,
YOUR FRIEND.
YOUR FRIEND. NICK, AM I --
>> ANDREA, I VERY MUCH AGREE
WITH MICHAEL.
I THINK THAT PRESIDENT TRUMPS
BEEN RIGHT TO TRY DIPLOMACY WITH KIM JONG-UN.O TRY DIPLOMACY WITH
KIM JONG-UN.
I ALSO BELIEVE HES MADE THE CORRECT CALCULATION, WE NEED TO
ENGAGE THIS REGIME.
CLEARLY WANT BUDDY PHILOSOPHY, I
CAN BECOME KIM JONG-UNS BEST
FRIEND, HE DESCRIBES THE LOVE
LETTERS THEY WRITE TO EACH
OTHER, THAT HASNT WORKED.
KIM HAS NOT BEEN MOVED BY THAT AT ALL. NOT BEEN MOVED BY THAT
AT ALL.
SO I THINK A RETURN TO MORE TRADITIONAL DIPLOMACY. MORE
TRADITIONAL DIPLOMACY. THE PRESIDENT HAS A VERY
EFFECTIVE NEGOTIATOR IN STEVE
BIEGUN.
AND SECRETARY POMPEO IS A VERY
EFFECTIVE PERSON.
LET THEM LEAD.
YOU NEED TO GET THE JAPANESE, CHINESE, AND SOUTH KOREANS TO
YOUR SIDE.
YOUR SIDE.
YOU PROBABLY NEED TO TURN BACK ON THE MILITARY EXERCISES.BACK
ON THE MILITARY EXERCISES. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT.
>> THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE WITH SOUTH KOREA.AVE TO HAVE WITH
SOUTH KOREA.
AND YOU NEED TO SHOW SOME
LEVERAGE AND TOUGHNESS.
THAT WILL PROBABLY WORK BETTER
FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN
THE SHORT TERM.
SOMETIMES THE CHARM OFFENSIVE
CAN WORK.
IT CLEARLY HAS NOT IN THIS CASE.
>> MICHAEL LEITER, THE SOUTH KOREANS WERE TOTALLY BLINDSIDED
BY THE PRESIDENT SEEMINGLY
SHUTTING DOWN THOSE MILITARY EXERCISES.OWN THOSE MILITARY
EXERCISES.
HE DID THAT, HE FREELANCED THAT IN SINGAPORE.HE FREELANCED THAT
IN SINGAPORE.
AND GENERAL MATTIS, DEFENSE
SECRETARY, PUSHED BACK AND SAID,
ITS ONLY A SUSPENSION.
BUT HE REALLY WAS -- AND HE
SEEMED NOT TO BE AWARE THAT TWO
WEEKS AGO, THE U.S. AND SOUTH KOREA AGREED THAT THEY WOULD PAY
MORE FOR THESE EXERCISES.
>> I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION,SAY
THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION, PRESIDENT TRUMP SPECIFICALLY,
ARE NEITHER FOCUSED ON OUR
ALLIES NOR FOCUSED ON
PREDICTABILITY.
AND BOTH OF THOSE THINGS CAUSE MANY PROBLEMS IN MANY AREAS, TO
INCLUDE NORTH KOREA.
CERTAINLY THE CESSATION OF A PAUSE IN THE EXERCISES, THEA
PAUSE IN THE EXERCISES, THE PRESIDENTS EXPECTATIONS THAT HE
SET WITH SOUTH KOREA ARE NOW
GOING TO CAUSE THE PRESIDENT OF SOUTH KOREA SOME PROBLEMS.NT OF
SOUTH KOREA SOME PROBLEMS. SO HE REALLY DOES, I THINK NICK
IS EXACTLY RIGHT, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MULTILATERAL
ISSUE.
ISSUE.
THIS IS THE KOREAN PENINSULA.
THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO JAPAN.
CHINA IS CENTRAL TO THIS. WE HAVE TO WORK THIS IN A
MULTILATERAL WAY.
MULTILATERAL WAY. AND THATS NOT SOMETHING THAT