Okay, if we have you on the show and we don't bring up Sami Zayn right now, and
your relationship with Sami Zayn.
I think the WWE Universe will jump through the screen and
go after us Graves because what played out, you had a word with Sami on Friday?
>> I don't know, don't bring me into this.
Kevin said Monday Night he was done with Sami Zayn,
you opted to bring it up to you, you deserve, here's the keys.
>> I wanna know more.
I do wanna know more right now, because you did have a subtle word.
It seemed like Sami was nearly listening to you on Friday.
Jay, obviously in the background, creeping in on the conversation.
It's completely flipped on its head though since then, not only were you betrayed.
Inside that structure of WarGames on Saturday, but then on Monday,
you said you didn't want anything to do with him anymore.
You guys go back an awful long way with Sami Zayn on the podcast last week talking
about your history together.
Then during the match you hurt your back and on commentary we could hear Sami Zayn
screaming at Jay Uso of target the back, target the back.
When you're hearing those words in match,
does that just reinforce your opinion that,
you're totally utterly done with this guy right now who stands by Roman Reigns.
>> Yeah, he really didn't even betray me.
He just helped his team win and he chose to do it in a pretty messed up way, right?
But, again, it's like I said on Monday, I really can't blame him with everything
I've done to him over the 20 years and I'm talking before WWE as well.
So, I guess the sentiment I really had is just,
our careers really have been linked forever.
And in WWE, even if you just look at the last eight years,
from the moment I started in NXT to now, even when we're not on the same show,
our careers are somehow parallel, people still lump us together.
And I mean even if you just look at what we've done since I got to WWE,
how many matches we've had, how many pay-per-views we've been in the same
match whether it was one on one or four ways or ladder matches or whatever.
We've done three WrestleManias together.
We did one, the first one was in a multi-man ladder match,
we were in the same match.
Second one, we were in a tag team match against Shane McMahon and Daniel Bryan.
We had a singles match at WrestleMania, like just that's three of them.
>> That's insane in [INAUDIBLE].
>> It is insane.
So at this point on Monday, what I said really came from the heart like it's time.
I think we've just done this for a long time.
We've really helped each other throughout our careers a lot, but
we've probably held each other back as well, just because of this constant.
The constant pairing in people's minds even when we're not together,
we just, I know for a fact, I'll tell you this back in 2017.
In people's minds he and I were so
just one that if you got heat backstage or something, I get the heat too.
Even if I had nothing to do with it.
We got kicked out of Europe tour once together for something that I will,
I'm gonna have to, I don't think either of us had anything to really be blamed for.
But I was barely involved in it, it's just, no, get those guys out of here.
It wasn't just to get one of them, both of them, because literally everything, and
in that aspect, what I said Monday stands, I think it's just time to be done.
And he's thriving, he's thriving, I meant what I said that on Monday,
two people are seeing the Sami Zayn that I've known was there for 20 years.
And I don't know why it took so long for people to really take notice and
really give him the credit he deserves cuz he's been incredible in WWE the whole
time he's been here.
But the last few months I've obviously opened a lot of people's eyes to him and
it's great, but
I just don't think it's optimal for our careers to be parallel anymore.
>> Is that something that you just kinda recently came to the realization about it,
how closely intertwined you got?
Obviously, you guys are having the fight forever.
It's nothing new within the business, but is it something that you've
consciously said, all right, it's time to step away from that or
to really separate yourself or you just kinda let it all play out?
>> Man, I kinda think we've both tried to separate ourselves for a long time.
And it just never worked out, somehow we'd always end up finding our ways back to
each other like even, this is 2016 we're talking about.
We had a match at Battleground, the commentators were talking about it.
Everyone backstage was talking about it.
How many matches have we had since then, you know what I mean?
>> [INAUDIBLE] we're destined to do this forever
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