- Hello and welcome to Enterprise Fitness Education Series.
We've got Bob Guiel here.
Today we're gonna get into the ins and outs
of kind of a prehistoric diet
for lack of a better term, paleo.
And you know, talking about some of those issues
that arise when you talk about these things.
The first one I wanna hit is grains.
You were talking to me about some of the people
you've spoken to, can you elaborate?
- Sure. Well, if ever you know read on a Paleolithic diet
and hear this too,
but I've spoken to actual,
they're called forensic anthropologists.
And what they do is they study,
they go back and they look at,
you know, their remains and they look at causes of death
and they look at all these types of things.
And I happen to be in a room with two guys
that this was what they did for living.
Very, very bright gentleman.
And I was talking to them.
The first thing they said is they know
that a prehistoric man was very lean
and very muscular dense.
And so being the nutritionist and curious,
I started asking questions and they said,
"Yes, we know for a fact that during the neolithic era,"
which is where we went from hunter gatherer to agriculture.T
"That before we made that transition from hunter gatherer
to actually agricultural,
that the leading causes of death
were other than accidents or typically infections."
Okay.
Bacterial infections, viral infections,
that type of thing.
Once we transitioned into this agricultural era,
and we started eating more grains
there was a dramatic rise in heart disease, cancer
diabetes, and everything that's escalated ever since then.
Okay
So when you look at that
what did the average cave man eat?
And grow their food.
So they had to pick vegetables and fruits
when they were in season.
They ate a lot of meat.
Typically in the wintertime,
they ate a ton of meat because there wasn't a lot.
If they live in a colder climate,
there wasn't a lot of vegetation.
And they ate nuts, berries, things like that.
So when you look at that moving forward,
who was the first person to diagnose celiac disease?
Sacroties. - All right.
- Okay.
And you know, Caesar used to make his prisoners eat rye,
because it would fog your head,
make them feel lethargic,
make them feel sick all the time
so that they were less likely to try to escape.
- Right.
- Okay. That's historically in the books.
So when you look at that,
like I went to,
you asked me what the ideal diet is.
I gave a talk at the University of Massachusetts
to a support group for stroke patients
and the students that support this group
and so the hand came up and said,
"So what do you think about food?"
And obviously the person that asked me
was wondering what he should eat now
that he's had a stroke.
Okay. What's the best way to survive.
And of course, my comment to him was,
"Well, what if I told you
that part of the reason why you're here
is because of the foods you've been eating your whole life
and that's exacerbated your condition?"
Of course you get all this muddle and everything else.
So I went on talking about foods,
and the guy raised his hand again he said,
"So what you're saying to me is we need to learn
how to read labels."
And I said, "No."
Truth is, if you want to be as healthy
as you can possibly be,
if it has a label, don't eat it, okay.
I was driving my car one day.
It was pretty long drive.
And I was listening to these two people talk
from Harvard Medical School.
One was a research PhD dietician.
The other was a research PhD cardiologists.
And they did a 10 year study.
It was kind of a secret study.
They started at 10 years ago.
They just came out with all their findings.
Their purpose for doing this study was
and it was very eloquently done.
Because in the seventies,
when we went on this big don't eat fat kick you know,
we gotta eat carbohydrates kicks,
and Staten came on the market.
In that timeframe of almost 30 years.
Do you know the reduction in with all the advancements
in modern medicine everything else,
reduction in first time heart attack is?
- [Host] What was that?
- Less than a 10th of a percent.
So these people started thinking,
well, if we made all these changes,
and we've got this reduction in heart attack
by less than a 10th of a percent over a 30 years period,
what are we doing wrong?
First off they came out and said,
"There are no studies that show that low fat
is better for your heart. Not a study."
It was a cardiologist
the predominant cardiologist who suggested it at that time.
- [Host] Those Ansal case?
- Pardon? - Ansal case?
Yes. - Yeah.
- And all that was is because he made the suggestion.
That was it.
They didn't need to do a study.
He said, this that's what we're gonna do.
- There was obviously a lot of politics in that.
- Oh yeah, yeah.
- The "Time" Man of the Year.
- So, yeah.
And what they concluded was it really,
and this was just recently,
it was probably a month ago.
I heard them they're coming out with this big report
in this study and then publishing it in a book.
That is the processed carbohydrates.
- Yes.
- That's the offending problem.
Now these are two Harvard Medical school researchers,
spent 10 years doing all this study.
But the most point thing is,
and of course they keep debunk that whole thing with eggs
and cholesterol proved that to be just another theory.
But the one thing that this woman said,
that it really, really, really caught my attention.
She said this whole thing about read meat,
red meat causing coronary heart disease,
red meat causing cancers.
Again, no studies to show it.
All hearsay.
Now in our world,
a medical doctor will look us and say,
"that's just hearsay."
There's so many things that go on
in the standard medical profession that are hearsay,
but this for some reason, it's considered accepted.
What she went on to say is in truth,
particularly grass fed red meat
is one of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet.
Your best source of B12, your best sources of zinc.
One of your best sources B6,
one your best sources of heme iron period.
- But another thing I just wanted to add to that is
when a lot of the research comes out about red meat,
or meat you know, they, they bucket things like
sausages, cold cuts, - Right.
- Processed meats are all into the same package.
And they say things like, you know,
I think it was a study done in the States.
A high protein diet is more likely to cause cancer.
And if you looked at the sources that they were having
it was literally, I think a McDonald's beef.
- Right.
They're very, very unfair studies.
They're almost like deliberately to fail
because they don't look at the quality of the meat
and they group it.
- It's not even a conversation of quality.
- And it's not really a laboratory study.
It's not where they actually like,
when people see this a study shows.
They think, Oh, they took red meat, they took people,
they put them in a laboratory and they ran all these tests.
That's not done.
It's somebody sitting at a desk,
looking at the numbers,
looking at the topography of everything and saying,
"Oh, it must be red meat.
Because look at all these poor people
eat McDonald's every day.
So it's gotta be red meat."
- Without realizing it's also their lifestyles,
cigarettes, alcohol.
It might be even recreational drugs.
- They don't throw the in the mix.
- No exercise. - Yes.
- There's obviously, you know, staying up late.
All of that goes with it.
There's a lot of other factors that go with it.
And you know, the thing that people wanna hold the hat on
is the fact that red meat.
And I actually had Alan Watson
who's the author of "21 Days to a Healthier Heart"
on my podcast show a couple of years ago now.
And he actually pointed out that in American studies
versus Argentina studies,
Argentinians eat double amount of red meat in a diet,
yet half the rate of cancers.
And he correlated that to the CLA content
that is in red meat which is cancer predict protective.
And obviously in Argentina,
it's much more easily accessible for grass fed meat.
Whereas if you go to the US you know
it's a lot more common to have factory farms
CAFOs getting the cheapest of the cheap out to the masses.
- Exactly. - Yeah.
So any other final thoughts on red meat
or a paleolithic diet.
- Just when you look at foods
and you look at the paleo diet, alright,
we as a species put all the faith in our scientists
and these big corporations to do the right thing.
If you wanna be healthy,
you wanna eat as natural as possible.
So it's very hard for people to understand it.
All these things we do to alter our food
to genetically modify it,
to put in these additives,
to put in these food colorings
all these added things to make it taste better.
That's not what our body wants.
Our body wants the basics raw natural foods
that we were designed to eat.
Okay.
All these processed foods,
when you look at the history of the human being,
only came about a very very, very short period of time.
Yeah maybe over another a hundred years
we might adapt to these additives
and things you put in the food.
We might lose a lot of people know in the interim.
Okay.
- We'll certainly lose the quality of life.
- Exactly.
You look there's a big fad now going on.
I wouldn't say it's a fad.
A lot of people looking at more natural foods
and taking better care of themselves,
like yourself, myself, and groups of people.
But there's still a lot of people who don't.
And it's almost like we got two societies now.
The healthy and the unhealthy.
- So it's like the poor and the rich.
- Yeah, exactly.
- Well, I hope that's food for thought.
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