AN INCUMBENT. PHIL RUCKER JOINS US, VIN GUPTA
AND FORMER TOP STATE DEPARTMENT
OFFICIAL STEVE.
OFFICIAL STEVE. PHIL
PHIL PHIL, FRIDAY, TAKE US THROUGH
EVERYTHING THAT HAS TRANSPIRED
SINCE THAT STATEMENT ON THE PART
OF THIS PRESIDENT THAT WILL GO
DOWN AS SORT AS SIGNIFICANT AS
GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES IN
CHARLOTTESVILLE, GRABBING WOMEN
IN THE BLEEP, HIS SUGGESTION
THAT PEOPLE MIGHT INJECT DISIN
DISINFECTANT TO CLEAN THEIR
LUNGS.
LUNGS. >> POLITICALLY DAMAGING THAT
MOMENT WAS FOR THE PRESIDENT,
LOOK AT HOW IT’S TAKEN ON THREE
FULL DAYS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION
TO COME UP WITH AN EXPLANATION
FOR WHAT HAPPENED.
AT FIRST, THE WHITE HOUSE
ACCUSED MEDIA OUTLETS OF
MISREPRESENTING THE PRESIDENT’S
COMMENTS EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE
PLAIN TO THE NAKED EYE ON
VIDEOTAPE.
VIDEOTAPE. THEN THE PRESIDENT CLAIMED HE
WAS TRYING TO BE SARCASTIC, BUT
NO TRACE OF SARCASM IN THE
EXCHANGE.
EXCHANGE. AND THEN WE HEARD FROM DR. BIRX
OVER THE WEEKEND SAY THIS IS
JUST HOW THE PRESIDENT LIKES TO
HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS OUT LOUD.
HE WAS TALKING TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF HOME LAND SECURITY OFFICIAL
AND THIS IS HIS NORMAL PROCESS
OF DISCUSSING NEW INFORMATION.
MAKES HIM SUCH A SMART GUY, THE
ISSUE IS THIS ALL PLAYED OUT ON
LIVE TELEVISION BEFORE TENS OF
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS, MANY OF
WHOM WHO TUNE INTO THESE
BRIEFINGS TO GET RAW
INFORMATION, FACTS, GUIDANCE,
STATISTICS, YOU KNOW, REALLY
INSTRUCTION FROM WASHINGTON,
FROM THEIR LEADERS, ABOUT HOW TO
MANAGE THIS PANDEMIC AND THE
PRESIDENT HAS USED THAT PLATFORM
TO FLOAT THEORIES AND PRAISE
HIMSELF.
HIMSELF. >> LET ME SHOW YOU DR. GUPTA
WHAT A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR HAD
TO SAY THIS WEEKEND ABOUT WHY
PHIL RUCKER IS TALKING ABOUT
MATTERS.
MATTERS. >> PEOPLE LISTEN TO THESE PRESS
CONFERENCES.
CONFERENCES. THEY LISTEN WHEN THE GOVERNOR
HOLDS A PRESS CONDITIONS AND
THEY CERTAINLY PAY ATTENTION
WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES IS STANDING THERE GIVING
A PRESS CONFERENCE ABOUT
SOMETHING AS SERIOUS AS THIS
WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC.
WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC. I THINK WHEN MISINFORMATION
COMES OUT OR YOU JUST SAY
SOMETHING THAT POPS IN YOUR HEAD
IT DOES SEND A WRONG MESSAGE AND
WE HAD HUNDREDS OF CALLS COMING
INTO OUR EMERGENCY HOT LINE AT
OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT ASKING IF
IT WAS RIGHT TO INGEST COLORLORO
ALCOHOL CLEANING PRODUCTS.
WE HAD TO PUT OUT THAT WARNING
TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WEREN’T
DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHICH
WOULD KILL PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
>> DR. GUPTA.
>> HE’S RIGHT, GOVERNOR HOGAN’S
RIGHT.
RIGHT. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" HAD A GREAT
PIECE OF REPORTING JUST LATE
LAST WEEK SAYING, PRESCRIPTIONS
OF HIGHYDROXYCHLOROQUINE SHOT UP
TIMES RIGHT AFTER THE PRESIDENT
USED HIS BULLY PULPIT SAYING
MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN
PRESCRIBING HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
PRESCRIBING HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE IN THE ABSENCE OF DEFINITIVE
DATA.
DATA. PEOPLE LISTEN TO THE PRESIDENT.
IN AN IDEAL WORLD WE COULD ALL
LISTEN TO THE PRESIDENT AS A
TRUSTWORTHY
TRUSTWORTHY TRUSTWORTHY PERSON OF
INFORMATION.
INFORMATION. THIS HASN’T BEEN THE CASE.
THE CONSEQUENCE DR. BIRX AND DR.
FAUCI SPEND MORE TIME ON DEFENSE
THAN THEY DO TALKING ABOUT
THINGS THAT REALLY MATTER, LIKE
FOR EXAMPLE THE MORE WE LEARN
ABOUT CORONAVIRUS THE MORE WE’RE
REALIZING THAT PEOPLE DON’T
CLEAR THE VIRUS IN THEIR
NOSTRILS FOR 21 DAYS.
FOR 21 DAYS AND WE’RE STILL
LKING ABOUT 14 DAYS FOR
SELF-ISOLATION, WHY ABOUT WE
HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT PUSH AND
PULL.
PULL. SHOULD WE BE THINKING 21 DAYS?
SALIVA TESTING.
SALIVA TESTING. THERE’S COMPELLING DATA OUT OF
YALE, CORROBORATING DATA OUT OF
RUTGERS SAYING SALIVA IS BETTER
THAN THE NASAL SWAB THAT WE’RE
LACKING.
LACKING. WE NEEDED TO BE HEARING ABOUT
THESE SCIENTIFIC STUDIES.
WHAT’S RIGHT, WHAT’S WRONG.
UNFORTUNATELY, DR. BIRX SPENDS A
LOT OF TIME ON DEFENSE.
>> DR. GUPTA, LET ME GIVE YOU
THE FLOOR THEN, TELL US MORE
ABOUT THE SCIENCE, WHAT ELSE DO
WE KNOW ABOUT COVID THAT WE
DIDN’T KNOW JUST A FEW WEEKS
AGO?
AGO? >> A FEW THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE’S ALL THIS
HEMMING AND HAUING AND W.H.O.
HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT NEW
GUIDELINES ON ANTIBODY TESTING.
LET’S BE CLEAR, WE DON’T KNOW
ENOUGH ABOUT ANTIBODY TESTING.
ALL THE DIFFERENT TESTS THERE
ARE A HUNDRED DIFFERENT TESTS,
SOME OF WHICH HAVE BEEN VETTED
AND OTHERS HAVEN’T BEEN VETTED.
IT DOESN’T ALLOW US TO MAKE A
COMMENT ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU
HAVE A POSITIVE TEST THAT MIGHT
MEAN YOU’RE PROTECTED FROM
REINFECTION.
REINFECTION. WE DON’T KNOW THAT.
PEOPLE ARE MAKING GRAND
STATEMENTS BOTH WAYS.
WE NEED DR. BIRX TO SPEND MORE
TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT, NOT
ABOUT DISINFECTANT THAT THE
PRESIDENT IS TALKING ABOUT.
SALIVA TESTING IS POSSIBLY THE
WAY TO MASK TESTING.
LET’S SEE IF WE CAN DO
SELF-COLLECTION AT HOME.
DR. FAUCI ISN’T ABLE TO TALK
ABOUT THAT.
ABOUT THAT. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD
BE TALKING ABOUT.
21-DAY QUARANTINE, I’M JUST
CITING THE EVIDENCE.
21 DAYS AT MINIMUM FOR PEOPLE TO
CLEAR THE VIRUS.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
SHOULD IMPACT OUR S.O.P.?
WE NEED GUIDANCE.
>> RICK, I HAVE 37 QUESTIONS FOR
YOU, I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS,
YOU NEED A PODCAST, SOMEBODY
DOES, RICK, TAKE USP THIS THEME
OF DISPLACEMENT.
OF DISPLACEMENT. THE PRESIDENT SAYS THINGS THAT
ARE DANGEROUS IN THE WORDS OF
MARYLAND GOVERNOR HOGAN.
ALL WEEKEND YOU SAW THE GREAT
REPORTING IN THE WASHINGTON POST
AND "THE NEW YORK TIMES" ABOUT
THE POLITICAL FREE FALL
BASICALLY WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS
IN BECAUSE OF THOSE COMMENTS.
AS DR. GUPTA IS SAYING IT ALSO
HAS -- EVERY ACTION HAS A
REACTION AND THE REACTION IS, WE
HAVE NOW PUSHED OUT THE EXACT
FORM WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING FOR
THE KIND OF HOPE, THE KIND OF
INFORMATION, THE KIND OF
EDUCATION ABOUT WHAT THE
CONVERSATIONS THEY SHOULD BE
HAVING WITH THEIR PHYSICIANS IF
THEY’RE NOT WELL.
ALMOST BEING DISPLACED BY THE
DYSFUNCTION FROM THIS WHITE
HOUSE.
HOUSE. >> YES, I MEAN, NOT TO GO TOO
FAR IN THE FUTURE BUT SOMEDAY I
THINK HISTORIANS WILL LOOK BACK
AT AMAZEMENT WE HADN’T
PRESIDENTS THAT WEREN’T
SCIENTISTS.
SCIENTISTS. NOT ONLY IS HE SCIENTIFIC
ILLITERATE ABOUT INGESTING
CLOROX INTO THE BODY, HE ALSO
SAID WIND TURBINE CAUSES CANCER.
HE -- SO IT’S THE PERSON WHO’S
WORDS SHOULD BE GOLDEN, WHO
SHOULD BE TESTED EDED MORE THAN
ANYTHING ELSE, THE DISSEMIOR THE
OF DISINFORMATION.
OF DISINFORMATION. SO MANY PEOPLE CALLED IN ABOUT
WHETHER THEY SHOULD USE CLOROX
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK
THOSE OF US WHO ARE DOING THIS
ALL THE TIME FORGET THAT SO MANY
AMERICANS JUST CAN’T BELIEVE
THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR
WHO’S IGNORANT OF ALMOST
EVERYTHING THAT HE’S TALKING
ABOUT THEY JUST CAN’T BELIEVE
IT.
IT. THAT’S WHAT WE SEE OVER AND
OVER.
OVER. THAT’S WHY IT’S SO DANGEROUS.
JUST LISTENING TO DR. GUPTA A
MINUTE AGO, IT’S A BREATH OF
FRESH AIR, WHAT HE SAID ABOUT 21
DAYS WAS NEWS TO PEOPLE LIKE ME
WHO HAVE BEEN WATCHING
PRESIDENTIAL NEWS CONFERENCES,
WHY IS THAT?
THAT’S A MISTAKE THAT’S A
PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY’RE DOING.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION