So Robert in the
in the first a segment, you
basically outlined for us the the size of Tim pools, audience
and the impact that he has on people were talking about
a youtube channel that regularly gets at least a half
a million views on there. Main videos up to a 100 million
views a month these are extraordinary numbers reaching.
Many many people, the vast majority of whom are between
the ages of 1834. And he is I think what you could describe
as sort of a
a gateway. To what you know some people call the all right
certainly I've seen shows where he's had.
You know. Leaders of the proud boys on there and basically
saying you know reasonable guy and presenting him that way and
not pushing back, I mean I I'm you know certainly open to the
idea of having
people I find you know problematic or worse on a show,
but if I have them on.
I'm going to outline for the audience why they are
problematic and why there's controversy in their positions,
I'm going to attempt to expose them.
And he does not do that.
>> No effect because a step further with Tim doesn't this
was something that
with as I can in every corner conversation which lets or sent
to me
and in this recall the conversation instead of the
proud boys it sounds like they just show up to places
where that they can so they can start by
and then afterwards play the victim.
Now that is a very accurate description of what the proud
voice to 10 pool that he said 5.
Less than a month after that he hadn't read it Rio than the
chairman of the proud boys on his show
that question was not close to regain power. What he did was
if you went from a fairly sure what the wikipedia definition
of fascism and if that aereo which one of these do you
believe
so that area could say no, I don't think
that the needs of the nation should be put before the
individual because you know we all know alright never lies
about what their actual police are they're known for being
here to tell us just for their whole lot.
The other thing that he did is
in that same report become the station probably just in in
the eye. The counter protesters in Oregon.
And one probably was caught on tape beating a counter
protester with a bat.
And actually to his credit initially tweeted
something critical of the probable
that you know this is not cool. I think what he said was before
you leave it was that you guys are acting like antifa which is
I that's not how I races, but it's closer to our criticism of
their behavior.
He got a message in the end the conversation from Terry going
to delete the week
because he was going to get
you guys are
the pen did that and then he re posted a message saying it
seems like you guys are not.
The guy in the video is wearing up out boy's t-shirt
what he's doing is not only see white walking their opinion on
there. He is willing to go to his then 600,000 twitter
followers
and do damage control on their behalf.
>> It's a super chats or to simply where people actually
basically just pay you during the course of your your
broadcast. And you read their comment may be on air or
something like that. So OK so how did I know that him started
by being a videographer at occupy, I interviewed him at
that point. He was want he he was right on the cutting edge
of that technology and I think he was one of the first now.
We should say he was just a videographer he was at that
very beginning basically following a a correspondent who
ultimately it him and this correspondent had a falling out
my understanding is that for your piece you could not reach
this guy. I'm ready he. But there was a falling out I
remember when that happened and so how did he go from that
to having this massive comp out too well.
>> It's a bit of a long story replete at that second.
What happened was not very famous from live streaming of
people he was the one on camera he was just
after the videos he was included in the Scott and so he
was narrating and providing I think of the New Yorker put it
his own brand of breathless commentary
that made him kind of a he was a bit of a you know you've got
something from that there was you know there are a lot of
different analysts and conferences to go to and people
were saying
this direct word of one to one contact we someone with a
camera and the audience is that if your journalism.
>> And we should be clear, I know that if you Jen having
talked to people in the past. He was making an extraordinary
amount of money particularly in the car into.
>> The CEO told me that it was between
turn $8220,000 a year was it.
And the state of the higher.
>> Yes, I've heard higher my myself, but nevertheless either
way that's quite a bit of money for guys not necessarily
producing a lot of stuff. Yeah, he leaves fusion and then
then what happens.
>> Well he starts doing on the same thing that he was doing
before he's going to protest is going to political activity.
Getting a lot of action now that he doesn't have this
platform.
On your device for fusion cell.
The thing that changed everything for 10 with the
decision to go to we which is you know that's the normal
origin story like often changes when you go to Sweden, but and
this is after Donald Trump said on hand like I heard last night
about arrive in Sweden caused by paraphrasing company doing
it badly, but he he made an offhand reference to the end
look the crime because of because of migrants and we
tend to side is going to go and reported out in.
And you get $2000 for info wars all Joseph locked in to help
with expenses.
He raises $20,000 on the go fund me and he goes just we.
He has a lot of the thinking problems that he had that place
and fusion which is that
he's not prepared to interview these people to really answer
the question.
You come through people on the far right
and and failing to identify them as such we interviewed the
editor
this kind of change Brett who is the who was
a former party member an elected official with the far
right meaning Democrats get the party the literally founded by
actual World War 2 not 3.
Him just call him.
A journalist who said some controversial things and then
never says why both 100 things pan out. He does the same thing
with 3 guy who he just happens to me in a bowling alley and
these guys are very worried about immigration and he puts
them on these videos we pop it turns out they're members of
this again right in the immigrant party called training
in and I'm definitely miss mounted the 3 up, which is
whose leader believe that the Jews are responsible through
all of us and 9.11.
We're talking to be the hard part alright, and if someone
wanted to stay East people are white nationalist. I don't
think you want a lot of disagreement with him just
doesn't recognize.
You have to go you take something around waiting for
the sort of active outbreaks of violence and it doesn't ever
happen.
There is one incident towards the end where the cops tell him
to leave because the only people who don't want to be
filmed and 10 invent this story where the cop they the 50
people could show up with locks.
The health and if he doesn't leave.
Police later denied that that was the commission any danger
but this story get picked up by everybody
on the conservative media.
You get picked up by break up its picked up by the daily
wire. It's picked up by people will get picked up by all
the front and the daily storm.
And this video becomes and still is.
The watch a team has ever put out a new 2 and it has not a
2.8 million views up and wondering around in a shopping
mall in the town like Rican beaches this summer but not
home
and then leaving a quickly because he has that a cop said
that have been 2 people were going to come in for something
but what can we learn from this is that you don't actually need
to go to these places report.
If you feed these right wingers when he consciously learn this
or not I have no idea.
But suddenly he was getting the same kind of attention but he
got back at occupy for the first time.
And you can watch that over the next for years as people
increase the amount of content be made. You stop reporting you
pretty much just comments from the comfort and safety of his
own home, but repeating these are right now it is you talk
about radicalization this is what I mean
Rypien these great ideas, right wing ideas are validating these
right wing grievances that will be in fact they're emotionally
resonant for certain age group of men 18 to 35 year-old met.
Result in more and more you it result in more and more people
telling him how gravy it result in more and more money and
honestly in fairness to 10 or anyone, it's someone started
paying need that much money to say things like that.
I think I would lose track of whether I believe it or not
because they would be so much to learn about litigation,