PLEASE WELCOME THE ONE, THE ONLY BOB ODENKIRK TO THE
SHOW, HERE HE IS.
HOW ARE YOU, BOB?
>> I'M GREAT, MAN, HOW ARE YOU?
>> VERY WELL, SO HAPPY THAT YOU ARE HERE.
THANKS FOR FINDING THE TIME FOR US.
WHERE ARE YOU ZOOMING IN FROM.
>> I'M IN MY SON'S BEDROOM.
HE'S AT COLLEGE.
>> James: RIGHT.
>> THIS IS MY OFFICE NOW.
AND IT IS GOOD.
WHEN HE COMES BACK, HE KICKS ME OUT.
BUT HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, HE'S ON WITH HIS LIFE.
>> James: THAT'S GREAT.
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS.
YOU HAVE RECENTLY JOINED INSTAGRAM.
SO WHY, WHY DID YOU CHOOSE TO DO THIS AND WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, I DID JOIN IT A COUPLE, LIKE MAYBE
EVEN A YEAR OR TWO AGO BECAUSE I WANTED TO KEEP TRACK OF MY KIDS
ON INSTAGRAM.
THIS IS THE TRICK.
>> James: RIGHT.
>> YOU AS A PARENT HAVE TO GET ON FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM,
WHATEVER.
YOU GET THEIR FIRST AND THEN AS SOON AS YOUR CHILD SAYS I GOT AN
INSTAGRAM, YOU GO OH, THAT'S SO COOL.
CAN I CONNECT WITH YOU, I'M ALREADY ON THERE.
AND THEN THEY DON'T THINK FOR A SECOND YOU CATCH THEM OFF GUARD
AND THEY GIVE YOU THEIR NAME ON INSTAGRAM AND THEN YOU GO ON
THERE, NOW YOU CAN KEEP TRACK OF THEM.
>> James: SO DID YOU GO ON AS BOB ODENKIRK.
>> NO, I DIDN'T.
I DIDN'T.
I WENT UNDER AS DARN FELLA.
AND-- DARN FELLA.
AND THEN I CHANGED IT TO ME BECAUSE I WANTED TO HELP PROMOTE
THE MOVIE "NOBODY" BUT I WASN'T THERE INITIALLY TO DO THAT.
I WAS JUST THERE TO KEEP TABS ON THE GOVERNMENT AND ALSO MY KIDS.
>> James: IN THAT ORDER.
NOW LAST NIGHT WAS THE SCREEN ACTOR'S GUILD AWARDS.
WERE YOU NOMINATED FOR TWO, FOR BETTER CALL SAUL.
TALK ME THROUGH THE EXPERIENCE OF DOING THESE VIRTUAL AWARD
CEREMONIES.
HOW IS IT, IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU ENJOY?
>> YOU KNOW, IT'S BOTH.
THERE ARE PLUSES AND MINE USES.
AND HERE'S THE THING.
THE MINE US IS THAT YOU-- MINUTEUS IS THAT YOU LOVE
TO GO TO THESE THINGS I GET TO SEE YOU, JASON BAITMAN, ACTORS
AND ACTRESSES THAT I LOVE AND YOU GET TO TALK TO THEM AND GET
A LITTLE BIT DRUNK.
JUST A LITTLE BIT DRUNK.
AND YOU JUST HAVE A GREAT SOCIAL TIME.
THE PLUS IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE AWARD SHOW.
>> James: YES.
ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IT IS A STRANGE THING, AWARD SHOWS WHEN
YOU ARE THERE.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU REALIZE IS AT THE START OF THE AWARD SHOW IT
IS JUST FULL OF HOPE AND OPTIMISM AND JOY.
AND BY THE TIME YOU ARE AN HOUR AND A HALF IN, HALF THE ROOM
HAVE LOST.
SO IT IS JUST A MASS OF PEOPLE, A MASS OF PEOPLE WHO WENT IN
FEELING LIKE THEY HAD DONE SOMETHING AND AN HOUR AND A HALF
IN IT IS JUST A GROUP OF LOSERS.
IT IS HOW YOU FEEL.
>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
BUT IT IS GREAT.
I SURE MISS ALL THE SOCIAL SIDE OF THIS BUSINESS.
AND THAT GOES FOR ON SET TOO, YOU KNOW, JAMES, BECAUSE WE ARE
SHOOTING BETTER CALL SAUL RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME WHAT IS DIRCHG.
AND ST JUST SUCH A, IT IS SUCH A JAIM-- SHAME THAT WE DON'T GET
TO INTERACT.
YOU HAVE TO WEAR YOUR MASK RIGHT UP TO THE LAST SECOND.
AND THEN YOU DO YOUR LITTLE PIECE, YOUR MOMENT AND PUT THE
MASK BACK ON.
AND YOU KNOW, THIS BUSINESS IS A SOCIAL BUSINESS, IT IS ONE OF
THE BEST THINGS ABOUT SHOW BUSINESS IS ALL THE PEOPLE YOU
GET TO MEET AND THE FRIENDS YOU MAKE ALONG THE WAY OVER THE
YEARS.
AND A LOT OF THAT IS LOST RIGHT NOW.
BUT LISTEN, HEY, IT IS A SACRIFICE, WE'LL MAKE IT FOR A
FEW MORE WEEKS IF EVERYONE GETS VACCINATED, WE CAN GO BACK TO,
YOU KNOW, HAVING A GREAT TIME.
>> James: CUZ THIS IS THE SIXTH AND FINAL SEASON.
HOW FAR INTO THE SHOOT ARE YOU?
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT IT?
>> WELL, I CAN'T TELL YOU A THING BECAUSE I WILL GET, YOU
KNOW, ASSASSINATED.
BUT THERE IS LIKE A SNIPER OUTSIDE THIS WINDOW WAITING FOR
ME TO SAY THE WRONG THING.
I, WE'RE ONE SHOW IN.
ONE SHOW IN.
AN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE 13 EPISODES, SO I HAVE NO IDEA
WHERE THIS STORY GOES.
AND YOU KNOW I LIKE TO BE EXCITED LUKE A FAN OR AN
AUDIENCE MEMBER BECAUSE THIS SHOW, SIMILAR TO BREAKING BAD,
THESE WRITERS, THEY FIGURE OUT WAYS TO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU
DIDN'T EXPECT BUT THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO DO IT BUT THEY DO IT OVER AND OVER.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHERE WE END UP.
>> James: YOU HAVE LIVED WITH THIS CHARACTER, SAUL GOODMAN FOR
SO LONG NOW, SO MANY YEARS ACROSS TWO HIT SHOWS.
WHAT IS IT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HIM THAT RESONATED SO DEEPLY
WITH AUDIENCES?
ARE YOU EMOTIONALLY READY TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO THIS CHARACTER?
>> IT IS GOING TO BE HEART.
>> James: IT IS GOING TO BE TOUGH, RIGHT.
>> ST, LISTEN, I DIDN'T LIKE THIS GUY, FROM BREAKING BAD.
SOMEBODY ASKED ME WOULD YOU, IF THERE WAS A GUY NAMED SAUL
GOODMAN, SAUL GOODMAN CHARACTER TYPE PERSON WAS IN A ROOM WOULD
YOU HANG OUT WITH HIM.
I SAID NO WAY, I WOULDN'T GO NEAR HIM.
YOU KNOW, BUT I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW HIM NOW AND I FOUND THAT
YOU KNOW, UNDER HIS EXTERIOR, HIS FON PHONEY PERSONA OF SAUL
GOODMAN IS THIS YEARNING, DRIVING GUY WHO WANTS TO
CONNECTION AND WANTS RESPECT FROM THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM, HE'S
ALSO VERY FUNNY AND CLEVER.
HE MAKES ME LAUGH A LOT.
THERE ARE SEENS IN THE SHOW THAT VERGE ON SKETCH COMEDY, THEY GET
SO LUDICROUS.
AND THEN OF COURSE FOUR PAGES LATER THERE IS A SCENE THAT
SUTORLY EARNEST, HEARTFELT AND DEEP AND SENSITIVELY WRITTEN.
SO I, YOU KNOW, IT IS GOING TO BE HARD TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO THAT
LEVEL OF WRITING.
>> James: ON YOUR LAST DAY THERE IS GOING TO BE A REALLY
EMOTIONAL THING FOR YOU, RIGHT?
>> THIS THING CHANGED MY LIFE SO MUCH, JAMES.
AND I KNOW THAT AS I GET CLOSER TO THE END OF IT I AM GOING TO
HAVE TO SHOW RECONCILE SAYING GOOD-BYE TO THIS GIFT THAT I GOT
FROM THE UNIVERSE.
IT IS VERY HARD TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT HOW MUCH OF A-- HOW MUCH
IT BROUGHT INTO MY LIFE, YOU KNOW, THESE WONDERFUL ROLES THAT
YOU JUST INTRODUCED MY-- I WOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES WITHOUT THE WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY I HAD HERE
THAT I DID NOT DESERVE.
I DID NOT EARN.
I DID NOT AUDITION FOR.
IN NO WAY DID I EARN.
IT WAS TURE PURELY A LOTTERY WIN.
AND SO THAT WILL BE HARD.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S A LONG WAY AWAY.
I GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN AND I AM
GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT FOR NOW.
AND THEN I WILL GET ALL TEARY EYED IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS AS WE
COME TO THE END.
>> James: AND ALSO IN THE MIDST OF IT YOU HAVE THIS HUGE
MOVIE THAT WE HAVE TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON.
NOBODY-- LIKE WE ARE ALL IN ON THIS FILM.
LIKE REGGIE, WE ARE IN ON THIS MOVIE, RIGHT?
IT IS JUST SO GOOD.
>> Reggie: SO GOOD.
>> James: YOU MUST YOU BE SO PROUD OF IT, FOR ANYONE THAT
HASN'T CAUGHT UP WITH IT, TELL WHAT IT IS ABOUT.
>> OKAY T IS AN AK MOVIE.
WHICH IF YOU KNOW MY WORK, YOU ARE VERY CONFUSED RIGHT NOW.
BUT YOU KNOW, VERY OFTEN IT IS A TROVE OF ACTION MOVIES THAT THE
UNSUSPECTING GUY IS THE HERO AND TURNS OUT TO BE ABLE TO FIGHT
AND HAVE ALL THESE SKILLS.
BUT USUALLY THAT UNSUSPECTING GUY IS NOT SO YOU KNOW --
UNSUSPECTING AS AN AUDIENCE MEMBER, USUALLY IT IS JASON
STATHAM WITH GLASSES ON AND TAKES THEM OFF AND BEATS
EVERYONE UP.
BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, I THINK BECAUSE I PLAY THIS TBIE
WITH ALL THE HONESTY CAN I PLAY HIM WITH, THERE IS ACTUALLY A
BRAIN ACTUALLY DOES GO WELL THAT GUY IS GOING TO GET HIS ASS
KICKED.
IS HE GOING TO DIE.
HE'S NOT GOING TO BE THE HERO.
THERE IS NO WAY HE SURVIVES THIS.
AND SO IT IS A GREAT LITTLE TRICK TO HAVE ME BE THAT GUY.
I DID TRAIN FOR TWO AND A HLF YEARS BEFORE WE SHOT A SINGLE
THING.
AND I, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, IT-- IT BAS JUST HUNDREDS OF HOURS IN
THE GYM BUT I REALLY WANTED TO DO MY OWN FIGHTING.
I LOVE THOSE OLD JACKIE CHAN FILMS.
MY FAVORITE ACTION MOVIE IS FLEA STORY AND I WANTED TO DO ALL MY
OWN FIGHTING AND I DID DO ALL MY OWN FIGHTING.
AND IT IS THE STORY OF A DAD, THERE IS A BREAKIN IN HIS HOME.
AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE FEELINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILDING UP IN
HIM FOR SO MANY YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THIS KIND OF INSULT
THAT HE FEELS FROM THIS BREAK-IN, THIS VY LATION, THIS
FEELING OF MEANINGLESSNESS THAT HE FEELS, HE PUSHES BACK AND
STRIKES OUT AND HE GETS, BECAUSE OF HIS REACTION WHICH IS
VIOLENT, VERY VIOLENT, HE THEN CREATES MORE TROUBLE FOR HIS
FAMILY WHICH HE THEN HAS TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT.
SO LUCKILY HE IS FROM A FAMILY OF WARRIORS.