>>> WELCOME BACK. THIS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGING TIME
FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO LEARN
IMPORTANT MEDICAL FACTS AND TAKE
INFORMED STEPS TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES AND CONSIDER THE
WIDER CONTEXT.
WIDER CONTEXT. SO MANY PEOPLE LOOKING TO FIND
THEIR OWN SUBJECTIVE TRUTH.
FOX PLAYED IT DOWN.
THEY WERE ASKING WHETHER VIRUS
CURES ARE HELD BACK BECAUSE SOME
PEOPLE DON’T LIKE DONALD TRUMP.
OTHER MISINFORMATION MAY STEM
FROM MORE OLD FASHIONED
IGNORANCE.
IGNORANCE. THE GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA SAID HE
JUST LEARNED PEOPLE CAN SPREAD
CORONAVIRUS WITHOUT SHOWING
SYMPTOMS.
SYMPTOMS. SOMETHING HIS FELLOW GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN EMPHASIZING
FOR MONTHS.
FOR MONTHS. IT’S LITERALLY YOUR JOB TO GET
THE FACT AND CHECK YOUR SOURCES.
COMPARE THAT TO THE WILD WEST OF
INTERNET OR CASUAL CONVERSATION
WHERE RUEMORS OF MISINFORMATION
ARE SPREADING FAST AND THEY POSE
A PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT.
FALSE STORIES ABOUT INFECTED
TOILET PAPER TO A MAGIC CURE TO
BASICALLY FALSE ALARLM PANICS
THAT ARE KPAJ RATSEXAGGERATED OR
THE POINT IS NOT TO LECTURE
PEOPLE ESPECIALLY ABOUT NEW AND
COMPLEX TOPICS.
COMPLEX TOPICS. OUR COUNTRY IS ASKING PEOPLE TO
DO BASICALLY A BUNCH OF HOMEWORK
ON A DEADLINE UNDER STRESS
AGAINST THE BACKDROP OF FLAWED
SYSTEMS IN OUR LARGER EDUCATION
APPARATUS AND OUR POLITICS AS WE
SHOWED YOU AND IN OUR HEALTH
CARE SYSTEM.
CARE SYSTEM. TO GET INTO THIS DISCUSSION WE
WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I’M JOINED BY RENOWNED DOCTOR
AND PRESIDENT FORMER HEALTH
ADVISER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA AND
CHARLAMANGE THE GOD.
GREAT TO SEE BOTH YOU HAVE.
THANKS FOR DOING THIS.
>> WHAT’S HAPPENING?
>> THANK YOU.
>> WHAT’S HAPPENING, DOCTOR?
HERE WE GO.
LET ME START IT LIKE THIS.
I KNOW TO BE ONE OF THE CLEAREST
COMMUNE KARTSICATEORS OUT THERE.
WHAT DO YOU TELL PEOPLE WHO ARE
SOMETIMES GET CAUGHT UP IN THE
FALSE STORIES AND RUMORS THAT
COULD LITERALLY ENDANGER THEIR
LIVES?
LIVES? >> I WOULD TELL THOSE PEOPLE
THAT NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE
TALKING ABOUT.
TALKING ABOUT. I WOULD LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS
AND THE EXPERTS GIVE THE BEST
ADVICE.
ADVICE. I THINK THAT ADVICE IS TO STAY
HOME.
HOME. SOCIAL DISTANCING SEEMS TO BE
WORKING.
WORKING. IT SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED IN
DIFFERENT PLACES ACROSS THE
WORLD AND BEING THAT NONE OF US
REALLY KNOW, THAT’S THE BEST
ADVICE JUST TO GET OUT OF THE
WAY.
WAY. PEOPLE ARE SAYING I CAN GO OUT
IF I WASH MY HANDS.
I CAN GO OUT IF I WEAR MASK.
I CAN GO OUT IF I WEAR GLOVES.
I DON’T KNOW IF THAT’S TRUE.
NOW THEY SAY YOU CAN GET IT FROM
FROMMING FROM HAVING A
CONVERSATION OR BREATHING.
IT’S LIKE THE MOVIE THE QUIET
PLACE.
PLACE. I DON’T CARE ABOUT WHAT THE
PRESIDENT SAYING.
PRESIDENT SAYING. I HAVE TO PUT A LOT OF BLAME ON
THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WHEN YOU’RE THE CELEBRITY IN
CHIEF LIKE THE DONALD TRUMP AND
YOU’RE LIKE DEVIN NUNES IN
CALIFORNIA SAYING YOU CAN GO OUT
TO PUBLIC RESTAURANTS OR STILL
BE IN SCHOOL.
YOU SIMPLY DON’T KNOW.
IT’S OKAY TO SAY YOU DON’T KNOW
BECAUSE THIS VIRUS IS A FOREIGN
OBJECTS THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN.
WE’RE ALL LEARNING ON THE FLY.
JUST STAY HOME, PLEASE.
>> STAY HOME AND REMEMBER WHAT
YOU DON’T KNOW.
DOCTOR, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE
WAY HE PUTS IT.
SOME OF WHAT WE’RE ASKING PEOPLE
TO DO CUTS AGAINST THE MOOD OF
BEING SO EMPOWERED AND BEING
ABLE GET YOUR INFORMATION WHERE
EVER YOU WANT AND FIND THINGS
THAT YOU AGREE WITH OR FIND A
PIECE OF ADVICE THAT YOU LIKE.
LORD KNOWS IN POLITICS PEOPLE
HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT VIEWS
AND TOLD THEY GET TO THEIR THEIR
VIEWS.
VIEWS. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THERE
AREN’T MULTIPLE VIEWS ON THIS.
THERE’S ONE VIEW THAT IS MEDICAL
SCIENCE AND IGNORING IT COULD
HURT YOURSELF, RIGHT, DOCTOR?
>> I AGREE WITH YOU.
ONE OF THE THINGS I HOPE LEARNED
THIS AND SEEMS LIKE THE
PRESIDENT HAS LEARNED THIS IS
THAT SCIENCE AND FACTS IN THE
END WIN AND IF YOU DON’T LISTEN
TO THEM, YOU COULD END UP DEAD.
IT’S NOT JUST ALL OPINION.
THERE ARE FACTS AND THEY MATTER.
THE ONE LITTLE THING I WOULD
DISAGREE WITH IS THE OPENING
COMMENT.
COMMENT. YOU BACKTRACK A LITTLE AND SAID
LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS.
I WOULD SAY THERE ARE SOME CLEAR
EXPERTS HERE AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THE EXPERTS ARE REALLY
GOOD ABOUT IS WE DON’T KNOW
EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING. THERE’S LOT OF STUFF WE DON’T
KNOW ABOUT THIS VIRUS.
WHAT’S THE IMPACT ON PREGNANT
WOMEN.
WOMEN. WE DON’T KNOW.
WE HAVEN’T HAD ENOUGH TIME TO
KNOW IT’S IMPACT ON PREGNANT
WOMEN AND IT’S WHAT’S
THE IMPACT ON PREGNANT WOMEN?
WE DON’T KNOW.
THE IMPACT ON PREGNANT WOMEN AND
UNBORN BABY.
UNBORN BABY. IF YOU’RE IN THE LATE STAGES IT
APPEARS TO NOT HAVE A BIGFECT
BUT WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT EARLY
STAGES.
STAGES. BE HUMBLE AND MODEST.
WE DON’T KNOW AND DON’T BELIEVE
ALL THE THINGS YOU’RE HEARING
OUT THERE.
OUT THERE. THERE ARE A FEW VERY, VERY CLEAR
ITEMS AND AGAIN, I THINK HE PUT
THEM WELL.
THEM WELL. STAYING AT HOME IS A GOOD THING.
ALL RIGHT?
ALL RIGHT? WASHING YOUR HANDS IS A GOOD
THING.
THING. STAYING SIX FEET AWAY FROM OTHER
PEOPLE, NOT YOUR INTIMATE
FAMILY, OTHER PEOPLE IS A GOOD
THING.
THING. WHEN YOU GO OUT, WEAR A MASK.
GO OUT OCCASIONALLY AND STAY FAR
AWAY FROM PEOPLE.
WALK IN A PARK OR WALK ALONG A
SIDEWALK THAT HAS NO OTHER
PEOPLE BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU’LL
GO CRAZY AT HOME AND THAT ALSO
IS NOT GOOD FOR YOUR MENTAL
HEALTH.
HEALTH. DON’T BELIEVE --
>> I HEAR YOU --
>> SNAKE OIL SALESMEN COME OUT
OF THE WOOD WORK ALL THE TIME IN
THESE CIRCUMSTANCE, WHETHER
IT’S, YOU KNOW, VITAMIN C OR
IT’S CHLOROQUINE OR WHATEVER.
AT THE MOMENT WE DON’T HAVE
PROOF ON ANYTHING SO DON’T TAKE
ANYTHING THINKING YOU’RE
PROTECTED BECAUSE THAT’S JUST
GARBAGE.
GARBAGE. >> WELL, AND YOU MENTIONED
MENTAL HEALTH AND ALL THE
OBVIOUS LOGICAL ANXIETY AND
OTHER STIMULI HERE.
CHARLAMGNE, I WANT TO PLAY DR.
FAUCI ON SHOW TIME LATE NIGHT
SHOW AFTER GOING ON WITH SETH
CURRY, THE BASKETBALL STAR.
IST IT’S BEEN STRIKING TO SEE
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, WHICH HE
IS IN ADDITION TO BEING A
MEDICAL EXPERT TAKING
UNTRADITIONAL MEANS.
UNTRADITIONAL MEANS. FOR THIS TO WORK, IT’S NOT LIKE
MOST PEOPLE CAN DO THIS WELL.
WE REALLY NEED COMMUNITIES WHERE
THEIR HOT SPOTS FOR EVERYONE TO
DO WELL SO PEOPLE AREN’T
UNKNOWINGLY SHARE IT.
FIRST TO CHARLAMAGNE.
>> YOU DEAL WITH PROFESSIONAL
DOCUMENTS, REAL NUMBERS AND REAL
SCIENCE.
SCIENCE. HAVE YOU COME ACROSS THIS HOAX
ABOUT THIS FLU -- THE
CORONAVIRUS IS FULLACTUALLY CAUS
BY 5 G ANTENNAS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> NO, I HAVEN’T, THANK
GOODNESS.
GOODNESS. AS YOU GUYS KNOW BETTER THAN
ANYBODY, SOCIAL MEDIA CAN REALLY
BED A VENTAGEOUS FOR THE SPREAD
OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION BUT CAN
BE DAMAGING FOR THE SPREAD OF A
LOT OF GARBAGE.
>> CHARLA GRKSGME?
>> NO, I LIKE DR. FAUCI.
THE REASON I DO, HE CLEARLY
SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT HE’S TALKING
ABOUT AND YOU HAVE TO MEET
PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.
IF IT’S SO MUCH MISINFORMATION,
YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT’S COMING
FROM SOCIAL MEDIA AND WHETHER
IT’S COMING FROM OUR PRESIDENT,
IT’S GOOD WHEN DR. FAUCI STICKS
WITH SETH CURRY ON INSTAGRAM
LIVE OR SITS WITH DEUCES ANDSKPA
MARO.
MARO. THAT’S THE PEOPLE I LISTEN TO.
I LISTEN TO EXPERTS ON THIS.
I’M A GOD-FEARING PERSON SO I
BELIEVE IN GOD BUT I LISTEN TO
THE CDC AND IF THE CDC TELL ME
TO STAY HOME, THAT’S EXACTLY
WHAT I’M GOING TO DO.
I HEARD DR. FAUCI TELL US TO
STAY HOME A BILLION TIMES IN THE
PAST WEEK OR SO.
>> G-O-D, CDC, YOU CAN SAY THAT
DR. FAUCI IS COMPETING TO BE THE
GOAT, GREATEST OF ALL TIME WHEN
IT COMES TO RENOWNED MEDICAL
LEADERS.
LEADERS. DR. EMANUEL, YOU GET THE LAST
WORD HERE.
WORD HERE. >> I’VE LEARNED -- I HAVE KNOWN
DR. FAUCI FOR 25 YEARS, AND I’VE
LEARNED A LOT FROM HIM AND ONE
OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IS
TONY IS VERY CLEAR WHEN HE KNOWS
SOMETHING AND HE KNOWS IT’S
RIGHT, HE’LL TELL YOU AND IF HE
DOESN’T KNOW, HE’LL ALSO TELL
YOU AND THAT’S REALLY IMPORTANT
IN THIS MOMENT.
WE SHOULD NOT OVER HYPE ANYTHING
AND WE SHOULD BE VERY, VERY
CLEAR.
CLEAR. AND I DO THINK HE WAS QUITE
CLEAR, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA
CAN BE A FORCE FOR GOOD HERE AND
IT COULD ALSO BE A FORCE FOR
EVIL AND GET PEOPLE TO DO THINGS
THAT COULD REALLY ENDANGER THEIR
LIFE.
LIFE. AND IT’S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT
THAT YOU LISTEN CAREFULLY BUT
ONLY TO TRUSTED SOURCES OF TRUTH
AND SCIENCE HERE AND NOT TO
PEOPLE WHO AREN’T ACTUALLY
BASING WHAT THEY’RE SAYING ON
THE FACTS.
THE FACTS. IT WAS VERY DISHEARTENING THE
GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA SAYING I
DIDN’T KNOW -- PEOPLE WHO FEEL
NORMAL COULD A, BE INFECTED AND
B, PASS ON THE VIRUS.
WHAT ROCK HAVE YOU BEEN UNDER?
REALLY.
REALLY. IT’S BEEN ALL OVER AND YOU’VE
GOT TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION AND
THAT’S WHAT IS CRITICAL HERE.
PAY ATTENTION TO THE FACTS.
AND YOU CAN’T -- CHARLAMGNE SAID
YOU CAN DO WORK THAN LISTENING
TO DR. FAUCI.
>> LOOK AT FACT SOURCES, CDC,
BECAUSE SOMETHING IS ON THE
INTERNET OR SOMEBODY YOU LIKE
SAID IT, DOESN’T MEAN YOU CAN
REPEAT IT.
REPEAT IT. WE OWE THAT TO EACH OTHER.
THIS WAS A SPECIAL KIND OF
CONVERSATION AND I FEEL MORE
FOCUSED BECAUSE OF IT.
SO MY THANKS TO DR. EMANUEL AND
CHARLA