GO THROUGH THE NEXT FEW HOURS
THEN DAYS HERE.
>> Sean: THANK YOU.
OBVIOUSLY THERE STILL A LOT MORE
TO LEARN ABOUT KOHBERGER HERE
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
IT IS A SERVER THAT HE POSTED
ONLINE AS PART OF AN
UNDERGRADUATE RESEARCH PROJECT.
PART OF THE INTRODUCTION READS,
QUOTE, I’M INVADING YOU TO
PARTICIPATE IN A RESEARCH
PROJECT THAT SEEKS TO UNDERSTAND
HOW EMOTIONS AND PSYCHOLOGICAL
TRAITS INFLUENCES
DECISION-MAKING WHEN COMMITTING
A CRIME.
LISTEN TO SOME OF THESE
QUESTIONS.
WHY DO YOU CHOOSE THE VICTIM
TARGET OVER OTHERS.
DID YOU PREPARE FOR THE CRIME
BEFORE LEAVING YOUR HOME.
BUT WAS THE FIRST MOVE YOU MADE
IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOAL
AND AFTER ARRIVING WHAT STEPS
DID YOU TAKE PRIOR TO LOCATING
THE VICTIM TARGET.
IT SOUNDS A LITTLE ODD TO ME.
LET’S GO TO CRIMINAL PROFILE
JAMES FITZGERALD FOR HIS EXPERT
OPINION.
JAMES’, LIST THEM.
I READ THROUGH THESE QUESTIONS
THAT KOHBERGER HAD AN’S RESEARCH
PROJECT.
WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT IN LIGHT
OF HIS ARREST TODAY.
>> AS SOON AS I HEARD THOSE
QUESTIONS ARE READ THEM EARLIER,
IT REMINDED ME OF THE PROTOCOL
OF LIKE 400 QUESTIONS THAT WE
HAD BACK IN THE DAY AS ONLY NEW
PROFILERS WOULD GO THROUGH
TRADING IN VIRGINIA WITHIN A
YEAR OR SO, WE WOULD GO OUT TO
THE PRISONS AND INTERVIEW SERIAL
OFFENDERS AND VIOLENT OFFENDERS.
THEIR CONVICTED NOT GOING
ANYWHERE AND WE PUT ASKED THEM
ABOUT 400 QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW
THEY COMMITTED CRIMES THEN WHY
THEY COMMITTED CRIMES AND WHY
THEY DIDN’T CHOOSE OTHER VICTIMS
.
THE QUESTIONS I’VE SEEN SO FAR
IN OUR SUBJECTS, THE QUESTIONS
THAT HE HAD PREPARED FOR HIS
MASTERS THESIS ARE VERY SIMILAR
TO THOSE SPIRITS OF THIS GUY
OBVIOUSLY IS INTELLIGENT AND
HE’S OBVIOUSLY DONE HIS RESEARCH
AND HE WANTED TO GET INSIDE THE
MIND OF THESE PEOPLE BUT AT THE
SAME TIME HE WAS GETTING ALL THE
ANSWERS FROM THEM HIMSELF SO HE
HAD TO DO IT HIMSELF AND COMMIT
THIS TYPE OF A CRIME TO TRULY
ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
>> IT BEGS THE QUESTION, WAS HE
DOING THIS FOR THE RESEARCH
PROJECT AND WAS ACTUALLY DOING
RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT HE
COULD BETTER COMMIT HIS CRIME
WHEN HE CHOSE TO DO IT.
>> SURE.
AND MANY CRIMINALS, THE DC
SNIPER, THE ANTHRAX GUY, THEY
ALL CLAIM TO HAVE IS OFF THE TOP
SORT OF RATIONALES AND REASONS
FOR DOING IT AND ONCE THEY ARE
CAUGHT, QUITE FRANKLY THEY HAVE
VIOLENT IDEATIONS, OUTFITS USE
COMMAND THEY WANT TO FORM AN
EXCUSE FOR WHY THEY GO OUT AND
COMMIT CRIMES.
IN A ONE-OFF LIKE THIS GUY
KILLING FOUR PEOPLE AT ONCE AND
BEING A SERIAL OFFENDER THAT
GOES ON FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS OR
DECADES IN THE CASE OF SOME OF
THEM.
SO THIS GUY WANTED TO KILL
SOMEONE.
I’M SURE ABOUT THAT AND ONCE HE
GOT MORE IN A WORLD OF THIS
CRIMINAL JUSTICE STUDIES AND HOW
THESE PRISONERS OPERATE.
HE THOUGHT HE WOULD BE SMARTER
PETER REMINDS ME FROM 99 YEARS
AGO BEFORE MY TIME BUT I’M
CERTAINLY FAMILIAR WITH THAT,
LEOPOLD AND LOEB CASE IN CHICAGO
.
THEY WERE A COUPLE OF STUDENTS
BUT THEY WERE SMARTER THAN LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND THEY KIDNAPPED
AND KILLED A 14-YEAR-OLD BOY.
THERE WAS SOME MOVIE IN 1948, A
HITCHCOCK MOVIE, THAT CAPTURES
THAT.
THE METHODOLOGY IS DIFFERENT BUT
I THINK PART OF WHAT THIS GUY
ISN’T SOMEONE WHO THINKS HE IS
SMARTER THAN THE REST OF US,
CERTAINLY LAW-ENFORCEMENT, AND
THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE FACTORS
THAT CONTRIBUTED TO HIM
COMMITTING THIS CRIME HIS.
>> OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON TV,
CRIMINAL PROFILERS,
PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILERS, BUT
WHAT THIS GUY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WE DON’T KNOW A LOT ABOUT
KOHBERGER BUT FROM WHAT WE’VE
WE’VE SEEN, WOULD HE MATCH
SOMEONE LIKE THIS?
>> I WAS HERE FIVE WEEKS AGO
TONIGHT ON THIS EXACT SHOW ABOUT
THIS EXACT TIME AND I LAID OUT
THREE POTENTIAL SCENARIOS OF
THIS PERSON.
IT WAS SOMEWHAT KNOWN BY THE
VICTIMS AND INDIRECTLY AND MAYBE
HE KNEW THEM MORE AND THEY KNEW
HIM AND THERE CAN BE SOMEONE
INVOLVED IN CELIBACY ARE SOME
KIND OF A SEXUAL STATUS.
THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
THEY CAN BE --
PEOPLE CAN OPERATE IN TWO OR
THREE OF THOSE CONDITIONS WHEN
COMMITTING THIS CRIME.
THERE IS THIS QUESTIONNAIRE THAT
HE THOUGHT OUT AND THIS
FASCINATION LEVEL SO HIGH FOR
HIM JUST DOING THE RESEARCH ON
HIS OWN WAS NOT ENOUGH.
HE HAD TO INVOLVE HIMSELF
DIRECTLY IN THESE CRIMES.
HE CHOSE MASS MURDER OF FIVE