STUART: YOU SAW HIM WALKING DOWN
THE CORRIDOR THERE.
THE MAN'S ARRIVED.
PETE ROSE, THE MAN HIMSELF, IS
WITH US ON THE SET SITTING RIGHT
NEXT TO ME.
I SHOULD TELL YOU HE IS AUTHOR
OF THE NEW BOOK, GREAT BOOK,
"PLAY HUNGRY, THE MAKING OF A
BASEBALL PLAYER."
THERE YOU HAVE IT.
HE BROUGHT A FREE COPY FOR ME
WHICH I HOPE HE WILL AUTOGRAPH
SO THAT I CAN SELL IT FOR A
SMALL FORTUNE.
>> NO AUTOGRAPHS TODAY.
JUST KIDDING.
STUART: I WILL PAY YOU.
LOOK, I CAME TO AMERICA IN
1970s.
BUT I REMEMBER YOU.
I REMEMBER YOU VERY WELL.
>> GOOD DECADE.
STUART: I REMEMBER YOU AS THE
MOST AGGRESSIVE COMPETITOR IN
THE ENTIRE GAME.
THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE.
>> THAT'S WHY IT'S PLAY HUNGRY.
I PLAYED HUNGRY AND AGGRESSIVELY
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I PLAYED
TO WIN.
STUART: YEAH.
>> KIDS GOT TO UNDERSTAND THE
ONLY REASON YOU PLAY SPORTS
TODAY IS TO WIN.
IT'S MORE FUN.
EVERYBODY HAS MORE FUN WHEN YOU
WIN.
AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT?
STUART: ABSOLUTELY.
THIS SHOW IS A WINNER, BY THE
WAY.
THE MOST WATCHED NEWS PROGRAM IN
AMERICA.
>> I BELIEVE THAT.
IF YOU CAN GET AN "A" OR "D,"
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO GET?
IF YOU CAN WIN OR LOSE, WHAT DO
YOU WANT TO DO?
WIN.
IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
WE MAKE IT ROCKET SCIENCE TODAY.
STUART: YOU WOULD SLIDE INTO
BASES, WOULDN'T YOU?
>> HEAD FIRST.
I SLID WHEN I DIDN'T HAVE TO
SLIDE.
TRYING TO GET YOUR PICTURE IN
THE PAPER, MAN.
ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO SLIDE
HEAD FIRST.
STUART: IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
EASIEST WAY.
YOU ALWAYS GOT YOUR PICTURE IN
THE PAPER.
STUART: YOU WANTED TO STAND OUT,
YOU WANTED TO WIN AND LEAVE THAT
WAY.
>> WELL, I WAS PRETTY LUCKY
BECAUSE I GOT TO PLAY IN MY
HOMETOWN.
I WAS BORN THREE MILES FROM THE
BALLPARK IN CINCINNATI.
SO EVERY NIGHT I PLAYED I FELT
LIKE I HAD ICED TEA WITH
EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THE
AUDIENCE.
WHEN YOU ARE UNDER SCRUTINY LIKE
THAT, ESPECIALLY MY DAD WAS
THERE, THE WHOLE FOCUS ABOUT MY
DAD, WHEN YOU GOT A DAD THAT'S
ANALYZING ME THE WAY HE DID AT
THE GAMES, YOU GOT TO PLAY HARD.
YOU GOT TO PLAY TO WIN OR HE
WILL BE WAITING OUTSIDE FOR YOU.
STUART: HE WAS THERE AT EVERY
GAME?
>> EVERY GAME.
STUART: ALWAYS THERE?
>> NEVER STAYED INTO THE GAME,
HE WAS A BANKER.
WORKED AT FIFTH THIRD UNION
TRUST COMPANY.
CAN I GIVE A QUICK STORY?
STUART: PLEASE DO.
>> I COME OUT ONE TIME, I'M A
BATTING CHAMPION, '68-69 SO
PRETTY MUCH A STAR IN THE
LEAGUE.
IN 1970 I COME OUT AND MY DAD'S
STANDING BY THE CAR, SO RIGHT
AWAY I THINK MY MOM'S SICK.
THIS IS THE WAY I WAS RAISED,
OKAY.
I SAID IS MOM SICK.
HE SAID I GOT A QUESTION FOR
YOU.
HE SAID TONIGHT THAT THIRD TIME
UP WHEN YOU WERE BATTING AND YOU
HIT A GROUND BALL TO SECOND
THERE WAS A MAN ON THIRD, HE
SAID DID YOU RUN HARD TO FIRST?
I HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT AND I
DIDN'T BECAUSE I WAS MAD BECAUSE
I DIDN'T HIT THE BALL HARDER.
I SAID NO, I GUESS I DIDN'T.
HE SAID DON'T EMBARRASS ME IN
THIS TOWN LIKE THAT.
WHEN YOU HIT THE BALL, YOU RUN
UNTIL THE UMPIRE SAYS OUT OR
SAFE.
HE SAID I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.
I SAID OKAY.
I HAVE NEVER NOT RUN A BALL OUT
SINCE THEN.
I EVEN RUN DOWN THE CORRIDOR TO
GET HERE.
DON'T STOP RUNNING.
HE WOULD KICK MY BUTT.
STUART: LET'S FAST FORWARD TO
THE PRESENT, IF WE MAY.
YOU AN ANGRY GUY?
YOU'RE NOT IN THE HALL OF FAME.
>> NO, I'M NOT ANGRY.
STUART: I'M NOT GOING TO RAISE
ALL THAT ALL OVER AGAIN.
ARE YOU ANGRY?
>> NO.
WHY WOULD I BE ANGRY?
I'M THE ONE THAT SCREWED UP.
I'M NOT GOING TO GET ON YOUR
SHOW AND COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT
BEING IN COOPERSTOWN BUT I'M THE
ONE THAT MESSED UP.
I'M WILLING TO GO ON WITH IT.
STUART: IS THERE A FULL
CONFESSION --
>> YES.
STUART: -- WHAT YOU DID?
>> THAT WAS IN THE LAST BOOK I
DID.
WHETHER I BET ON BASEBALL OR NOT
IS OLD NEWS.
I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE TO REPORT
OLD NEWS.
LET'S GET TO SOMETHING PRESENT.
STUART: OKAY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF TRUMP?
GO ON.
DON'T SLIDE HEAD FIRST.
>> I'M A DONALD TRUMP GUY.
MY PUBLISHER AIN'T BUT I AM.
HE'S DOING GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY.
HE'S OUTSPOKEN.
STUART: IS HE YOUR KIND OF GUY?
>> YEAH.
I USED TO KNOW HIM WHEN I PLAYED
FOR THE PHILLIES IN ATLANTIC
CITY, HE WAS THERE EVERY NIGHT.
STUART: WHAT WAS HE LIKE?
>> GREAT GUY.
I HAD A MEETING WITH HIM ONE
TIME AT TRUMP TOWER TRYING TO
GET HIM IN THE RACEHORSE
BUSINESS WITH ME AND DUANE LUCAS
AND ANOTHER GUY.
THEN HE GOT CAUGHT ON THE SKI
SLOPES WITH MARLA MAPLES AND
THAT PUT AN END TO ALL THAT
STUFF.
THAT WAS LONG AGO, THOUGH.
WELL BEFORE HE WAS THINKING
ABOUT PRESIDENT.
BUT HE WAS ALWAYS A
DOWN-TO-EARTH GUY.
I WISH HE WOULD STAY OFF THAT
DAMN TWEETS.
STUART: PEOPLE --
>> HE'S LIKE ME.
I'M OLDER THAN DONALD.
I GUESS HE'S LIKE ME IN THIS
RESPECT.
ALL THROUGH MY CAREER, I ALWAYS
ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION THAT WAS
ASKED ME AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE
BETTER OFF NOT ANSWERING EVERY
QUESTION.
STUART: TRUE.
>> AND THE WORST THING IN THE
WORLD, LAST THING IN THE WORLD
YOU WANT TO DO IS CALL DONALD
TRUMP A NAME.
HE WILL COME UP WITH A NAME FOR
YOU.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DEBATES.
I CAN'T WAIT.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT.
STUART: HE'S A HARDER GUY THAN
YOU.
>> WELL --
STUART: I THINK.
>> HE'S ALL RIGHT, THOUGH.
WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT THAT JOB?
STUART: WELL, HE WANTED IT.
>> I KNOW.
HE WANTS FOUR MORE YEARS, TOO.
STUART: I THINK HE DOES.
I THINK HE GETS THEM, WHAT DO
YOU SAY?
>> LET'S SEE WHO'S GOING TO RUN
AGAINST HIM.
IS IT GOING TO BE BERNIE, IS IT
GOING TO BE JOE, IS IT GOING TO
BE HARRIS, THE SENATOR FROM
CALIFORNIA?
IS IT GOING TO BE MAYOR PETE?
MAYOR PETE, HE'S THE MAYOR OF A
TOWN'S GOT 100,000 PEOPLE IN IT.
YOU GOT 100,000 HOMELESS IN THIS
TOWN.
STUART: ANYTHING ELSE ON
POLITICS, PETE?
OKAY.
I HAVE TO ASK YOU THE SERIOUS
QUESTION.
>> THE OTHER QUESTIONS AREN'T
SERIOUS?
STUART: THAT WAS JUST
CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOU'RE A
GREAT GUY.
>> ALL THEY DO IS SIT THERE?
ASHLEY: IT'S A GREAT GIG.
STUART: WILL YOU EVENTUALLY GET
INTO THE HALL OF FAME?
>> NO.
IT'S NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE BUT I
DON'T THINK I WILL WHILE I'M
ALIVE.
BUT I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
BECAUSE I'M FROM CINCINNATI,
LIKE I SAID.
I MADE THEIR HALL OF FAME.
I GOT MY NUMBER RETIRED.
I GOT THE HALL OF FAME AND I GOT
A STATUE.
THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO ME
BECAUSE IT'S MY HOMETOWN.
I WAS RAISED THREE MILES FROM
WHERE I PLAYED IN CINCINNATI,
OHIO.
BY THE WAY, THEY PLAY BASEBALL
TODAY ON A STREET CALLED PETE
ROSE WAY.
BUT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO GO IN THE
CLUBHOUSE OR THE BATTING CAGE.
I'M JOHN DILLINGER.
I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE.
I'M SURPRISED I'M ALLOWED TO SIT
ON THIS SET.
STUART: ARE YOU OVER IT?
>> YEAH, I'M OVER IT.
I HAD TO GO THROUGH SECURITY 15
TIMES TO GET IN HERE TO SEE YOU.
YOU'RE NOT THAT DAMN IMPORTANT.
STUART: IF I'M NOT THAT
IMPORTANT --
>> I'M JUST KIDDING.
STUART: I WANT THE AUTOGRAPH.
>> I'M OVER THAT BECAUSE LIFE'S
TOO SHORT TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
YOU THINK I'M GOING TO GO HOME
TONIGHT AND WORRY THAT I'M GOING
TO THE HALL OF FAME.
YOU'RE NOT THERE YET.
YOU WILL GET THERE SOME DAY.
STUART: HOW OLD YOU THINK I AM?
BE BRUTAL.
>> HOW OLD DO I THINK YOU ARE?
61.
STUART: GIVE ME THAT.
I'M 71 IN FIVE WEEKS.
>> I GOT YOU BY SEVEN YEARS,
MAN.
STUART: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?
WHAT HAPPENED?
SIR, THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST
ENJOYABLE INTERVIEWS I EVER DID.