>> IT WAS JUST ONE MONTH AGO
THAT DON TRUMP WAS INDICTED ON
37 COUNTS RELATED TO HIS
HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED
MATERIAL.
TRUMP'S MAR-A-LAGO JUDGE AILEEN
CANNON SET THE TRIAL DATE FROGS
14TH AND EVERYONE SORT OF KNEW
THAT THAT IS NOT GONNA HOLD AND
IT'S ALMOST CERTAINLY GOING TO
CHANGE.
SO SECOND COUNCIL WHAT JACK
SMITH SAID TO HOLD THE TRIAL AS
EARLY AS DECEMBER, BUT WHAT
THEY'LL COME BACK WITH.
THEIR NEW POLL FROM POLITICO
MAGAZINE AND IPSOS'S GIVE US
FASCINATING INSIGHT INTO HOW
VOTERS ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS.
I FOUND A CLEAR MAJORITY OF
AMERICANS, SO 2%, THINK THE
TRIAL SHOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THE
2024 ELECTION.
TAKE A LOOK AT WHICH WHEN WE
BREAK THAT OUT BY POLITICAL
AFFILIATION.
YOU SEE THAT RED COLUMN ON THE
LEFT SIDE, THAT'S OF YOUR
SCREEN ALMOST HALF OF
REPUBLICANS.
IN FACT A PLURALITY OF THEM, I
AGREE THE TRIAL SHOULD HAPPEN
QUICKLY.
ONLY A LITTLE MORE THAN A THIRD
DISAGREE.
ON THE RIGHT SIDE ON YOUR
SCREEN, ROUGHLY THE SAME NUMBER
OF INDEPENDENTS THINK THE TRIAL
SHOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THE
ELECTION.
AND WHEN ASKED ABOUT TRUMP'S
GUILT, ALMOST HALF OF ALL
AMERICANS SAID THEY BELIEVE HE
IS GUILTY OF THE CHARGES, LESS
THAN A THIRD AND NOT THINK HE'S
GUILTY, AND AGAIN, BREAKING
THAT DOWN BY PARTY, GIVES US A
GOOD PICTURE.
UNSURPRISINGLY AN OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS BELIEVE
HE'S GUILTY.
AGAIN, LOOK AT THAT RED COLUMN.
A FULL QUARTER OF REPUBLICANS
THINK TRUMP IS GUILTY, WHICH IS
INTERESTING.
THE VERY PEOPLE HE NEEDS TO WIN
OVER TO GET THE NOMINATION.
ANOTHER 20% ARE UNSURE.
AND LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE,
INDEPENDENTS, JUST DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S THE YELLOW COLUMN.
IT'S NOT A GOOD SIGN FOR THE EX
PRESIDENT.
MORE THAN A THIRD OF EX
PRESIDENT THINK HE'S GUILTY.
A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF ARE
JUST ONSHORE, AND THEY COULD GO
EITHER WAY.
THIS IS A FORMER FEDERAL CROSS
PROSECUTOR, NOW CONTRIBUTING
WRITER FOR POLITICO MAGAZINE
WHERE HE WROTE ABOUT THIS NEW
POLLING, AND HE JOINS ME NOW.
I THOUGHT THE LOGIC OF, I WAS
SURPRISED BY THE FINDING THAT
62% SAY YES.
LET'S HAVE THIS TRIAL BEFORE
THE ELECTION.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IT?
>> I WAS SURPRISED BY IT, AS
WELL, AND IN PARTICULAR THE
FACT THAT ALMOST HALF OF THE
REPUBLICANS HOW THAT VIEW, AS
YOU NOTED.
WHAT I DRAW FROM THAT IS THAT
AMERICANS ARE TAKING THIS
SERIOUSLY, AND THEY WANT TO
KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THIS
PROCEEDING BEFORE THE
POTENTIALLY HEAD TO THE POLLS
AND REELECT THIS MAN.
AT THE SAME TIME THE THE FACT
PEOPLE WANT THIS TO MOVE ON IS
SURPRISING FOR ME BECAUSE IT
MAY BE HARD FOR THE JUDGE TO
ACCOMMODATE THAT BUT I THOUGHT
IT WAS REASSURING THAT PEOPLE
ARE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND
THINKING TO THEMSELVES, WELL,
THIS IS INFORMATION I WOULD
LIKE TO HAVE BEFORE I CONSIDER
WHETHER OR NOT THIS MAN SHOULD
BE AN OFFICE AGAIN.
>> YES.
IT'S THE MOST OBVIOUSLY LOGICAL
WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
OKAY, LET'S HAVE A TRIAL AND
SEE, DID HE DO THIS THING.
GIVEN THE PROCESS AND HAVE IT
OUT.
BUT THE CONCLUSION ABOUT THE
MAN'S A FELON OR NOT BEFORE WE
DECIDE TO VOTE FOR HIM, I ALSO
THOUGHT ONE THING I THOUGHT, AS
WELL, PEOPLE A SERVICE ALL
ALONG, IF YOU REPUBLICAN WHO
THINKS HE'S BEING RAILROADED
AND HE'S INNOCENT, YOU WANT
THAT, YOU WANT HIS NAME CLEARED
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
IF YOU THINK THE GUY DIDN'T DO
IT, AND IF YOU THINK IT'S GONNA
ALL COME OUT IN THE TRIAL,
THERE'S AN INCENTIVE TO HAVE IT
SO THAT YOU CAN SAY, LIKE, I
DON'T WANT THIS HANGING OVER ME
WHEN VOTERS GO TO THE POLLS.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
THERE IS AN ARGUMENT, IF YOU
THAT SORT OF VOTER, IF YOU HOLD
THAT VIEW, THAT YOU WANT THIS
TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE ELECTIONS
SO IT WILL CLEAR HIS NAME.
THERE ARE OTHER NUMBERS IN THE
POLL THAT SUGGEST SOME SORT OF
COMPLICATIONS AROUND THE
NARRATIVE THAT THESE
INDICTMENTS MAY ACTUALLY BE
HELPING TRUMP.
I THINK THESE NUMBERS DON'T
ACTUALLY BACK THAT UP.
THEY SUGGEST TO ME THE FACT
THAT THE REPUBLICAN RESPONDENTS
WERE A BIT MORE CONFLICTED.
IF YOU RAN THE NUMBERS IT, WAS
BASICALLY A NET NOTHING IN
TERMS OF THE FACT THAT THE
INDICTMENT HAD ON REPUBLICANS
VOTE VIEWS.
ROUGHLY A QUARTER SAID IT MADE
THEM MORE LIKELY, ROUGHLY A
QUARTER SAID LESS LIKELY.
AND ROUGHLY HAVE SAID I DON'T
KNOW.
YOU KNOW THE TRUMP AND MANY OF
HIS ALLIES HAVE BEEN SAYING
THESE INDICTMENTS ARE
PROPELLING HIM THROUGH THE
CALLS AND BOOSTING THE FUND
RAISING NUMBERS, BUT AS YOU
KNOW CORRELATION IS NOT
CAUSATION AND A LOT OF OTHER
THINGS THAT HAPPENED DURING THE
SAME PERIOD.
THESE NUMBERS SUGGEST IT MAY