Aaron Rodgers is the best Jets quarterback since who or whom
is the case may be. Oh wow.
Aaron Rodgers, the best Jets quarterback since.
Hmm, I mean, I, it's hard not to go Brett Favre right there.
I mean, I'm going to say Brett Favre for right now. I don't
think I'm not going to say Sanchez. He's not getting
billing. There,
it's Brett. Favre or Vinny Testaverde. I'll go Brett Favre.
Yeah, I think it is Brett Favre that one year they had with
Brett Favre and I was thinking about this earlier under
the Aaron Rodgers trade terms. The Packers would have gotten
the first round pick for Brett Favre because he took at least
65% of the snaps the problems. Remember That season started?
Great. Yeah.
You played them which were with the Titans. They were the one
seed. There was talk between
Brett Favre and is partially, born torn biceps tendon. And
remember when Plaxico Burress accidentally shot himself in
the leg in a Manhattan. Nightclub, that's when
the Giants who are on Back to be the one seed fell apart there
was Jets. Giants Super Bowl, talk and 08, right? And
far, I've got that injury
and it fell apart and they didn't make the playoffs
a year, but I think Favre the best quarterback, pre
Aaron Rodgers. They've been
struggling ever since then
to get the answer that they need. All right. What's more likely
Rogers is going to be closer to the MVP form that we saw in
2020 and 2021? Or he's going to be the guy that we saw last
year, who wasn't quite an MVP. I'm going 20, One here,
for all the reasons you've always explain. We've always explain.
He's a chippy, dude,
you know, he wants to prove people wrong.
It's a new Fresh Start. We've seen what that can do?
You know? We still are only two years away from
hey, Tom Brady or, you know, three years from that Tom
Brady, new team bucks, Matthew Stafford, new teams Rams Super
Bowl wins for both of them. You know, I think all
the motivation in the town of the team, I expect more of
the 2020.
One form than last year.
Yeah, I think motivated. Determined pissed off you make
this guy mad, and he's going to be more locked in, he's going
to be more focused and he's going to do what he has to do.
One thing I didn't mention earlier, I wrote about this
yesterday, there's a
technically 25% chance, he goes back to Lambeau Field in 2024,
if he's still playing for the Jets, because they're in that,
that weird scheduling formula for the 17th game, where you
play one team
from a division in the other conference the way it works out
next year, it's AFC East and have seen North. If they finish
in the same spot this year Packers Jets They play next
year
at Lambeau Field even though they played their last year. So
another reason may be for Aaron Rodgers come back, because
he'll know before he makes his decision where the Jets are
playing their games, who they're playing in 2024, all
right, true, or false.
The Jets 2023 version is the Best Supporting Cast Aaron
Rodgers has ever had. Mmm. Whoo,
that's that's a good one. Here, I off the top of my head,
I kind of want to say, yes.
But I'm not quite sure. I'm ready to go down that Aang.
I mean all right so here's here's the defense is certainly in
that conversation where you can go, this is the best defense
maybe he's ever had
and then you get onto the weapons on the offensive side
of the ball and it's up there. Now, listen when they were in,
like 24:14,
right? When they had 2014 2015. He did have
a young Davante Adams who wasn't contributing a ton yet.
He did have Randall Cobb, right? And then he, Did have
Jordy Nelson. That was a pretty good crew right there.
But man, overall I think there's, there's more potential
for this group right here to do danger. It's a more dangerous
group overall, but it's close. I mean, cumin some of those
Jets. So, I mean, Packers offenses
and 2014 2015, they were damn good. It was a good offensive
line, but I probably give the edge to the Jets I think when
with overall potential and explosive nature and then you
add the defense aside on to that.
I think that it's hard to it's hard a that
The Supporting Cast when they haven't played a game yet is
better than the team that won a Super Bowl
and yeah, 2010's. I know I can't I can't go there yet.
I think it's TBD
jets are the
second favorite behind the bills to win. The AFC East. Do
you agree with that, that set of odds that the Jets behind
The bills
come in second to win that division man it's closed.
I think I'd still give the Dolphins The Edge but barely.
I don't know. That's that's just how I feel. That Dolphins,
roster. I still look at that and go eat as much as I
love the Jets roster. I think the Dolphins one is still better
and then I think there's the,
you know, the the other factor of the dolphins with Vic fangio
on defense now and of course Mike McDaniel and his offense
a genius. You know, I can't
put the jet. It's offense on that level yet. I can't. So
I would still go with the dolphins is the second team
there in the afc's.
You know
II don't disagree with you. The thing that is stunning to me
Patriots, plus 750 bringing up the rear after they dominated
that division for 20 years, they are now squarely in
the basement on paper.
They they have a chance to pick someone off but,
and maybe it'll be the Jets maybe,
wouldn't that be something? If after all this, the Jets end up
in last place, in the AFC East, when you look at that schedule,
it isn't out of the question, although they do have
the fourth place. Schedule, remember we talked about
multiple teams, make it to the playoffs,
they have that schedule where they all play
every team in the AFC West. They play every team in the NFC
East. It is a tough tough schedule, and they cannibalize
each other. These good teams twice
against each other.
That makes it hard as well,
for anyone other than the Division champion to get out of
there. Into the postseason, the Packers have the worst odds to
win the NFC North. Do you agree with that? That they bring up
the rear
among the Bears?
And Vikings. I don't agree with that
first off, you know, the Packers down here. You know.
Whatever injuries didn't play their best, blue, some
opportunities. I think I still think the Packers can be,
you know,
a nuisance in the NFC I do not agree with them pulling up
the rear. I do think at least they should be up above the Bears
and then
you know I'm not so sure. I mean really when I when you go
roster and player for player I don't think it's that far off
from the Viking. So I'm going to say third for right now, but
I don't think the gap between the Vikings and the Packers is
that huge really
I was doing something yesterday, and I was asked, if
I was starting to team right now, what coach would, I hire
and I really struggled because all the best coaches are older
and, you know, if I'm starting a team, now I want guys who are
going
to be around, I ultimately settled on Sean, Payton because
he's late 50s. I get 15 years out of him because Belichick
and Carol out of the question, right? But then it dawned on
me. I want, Matt Le Flore perfect combination of success
and age. I know
he's going to be with me for a long time. I don't want to be
an ageist here. I'm trying to plan for the future. I want
somebody that I know is going to be around and I know
the floor is going to be there for a long time and he was 13 and
three, thirteen and three, thirteen
and four
with this Aaron Rodgers dysfunctional, roiling. I mean
I remember when he got that job I thought oh God Aaron Rodgers
going to chew him up and spit him out and he
found a way to navigate around Aaron Rodgers. So
I say that because I'm not writing off the Packers,
because Matt, Le Flore can work magic with this situation.
Matt, Le Flore may be a better Coach without having to tip.
Toe on eggshells around the delicate genius
and it made me liberate him as a coach open them up, right?
Maybe better than he's ever been. He can finally run his
offense the way he wants to,
you know, one of the reasons it's Daniel Hackett failed in
Denver. He was to deferential to Russell Wilson because he
didn't want to go through the same crap. They went through in
Green Bay when they had to be deferential
to the delicate genius.
So so much for me and Aaron getting along.
So anyway, I think so. Yeah.
I agree with you. They should not be bringing up the rear
that may be a good bet to make. If you're not inclined, you're
gonna take full floor over Shanahan, and McVeigh and, and
cirie Ani. I'm just, I'm just, I just found that a curious
comment. Yes, one day. Yeah, that they're okay.
Yeah.
Well well yes
see Ronnie hasn't done enough yet for me to put him in that list
and
I mean you asked me the question I give you the answer.
Yeah. I'm-i'm-i'm
cooled off on McVeigh he's got to prove himself to me again.
And
you got cows a little too stubborn when it comes to
the quarterback position. I think it's hurting him. So yeah, I'm
no longer in the col. Shanahan is the next Bill? Belichick
mode? I used to be
but I'm not anymore if that Super Bowl win and maybe I'll
change my mind. Mind, but he's it. Something's wrong with
the quarter at something's. Something's Haywire with
the quarterback position. You you pulled me there,
you pulled me there,
but they just can't solve that quarterback situation. And
I think it's some point. It's on him. All right.
What's more likely? The Jets win the AFC or the Packers win?
The NFC who like the hold of it, the whole conference?
Well, that yes the whole damn thing ugly
Monopoly piece trophy that
Trophy. They the trophies were fine and they have that
oversized Monopoly piece. Now, which ones more likely to be
holding that Monopoly piece. Remember when Bill Belichick
had it and just kind of threw it off to the side. Well, I'm
going with the Jets here for sure. I mean the Jets potential
is great.
How it is? I am I mean if I can see one team out of these two,
right? I like I could see the Jets, you know,
reaching their potential and being one of the best teams in
the AFC. I think that's probably why Woody and
everybody. The Woody Johnson, and Saleh and everybody made
the move.
I think that's where they look at it. And, you know, I think
on paper head that potential is there. The Packers, I can't,
I can't quite say that. And then also, I just go. Damn, they
got,
you know, the Eagles in that conference and the
and the 49ers still that I think are clearly on another
level from them as a football team. So that's where I go
Jets, even though I know the afc's off at awesome. I just
their talents pretty damn good. It's real.
I got to disagree with you. I got to say the package because
of the fact that you've got my home's, you've got Josh out and
you've got the Dolphins where they are right now, if to is
stays healthy, you've got you a burro, Murderers Row to get
through today. Have a gate, the postseason
and who on that team has any experience other
than Aaron Rodgers.
And what's his experience in recent years?
Fail to capitalize, fail to perform,
get too cautious. Get too careful
the weight of The moment is on his shoulders, he doesn't play
in the postseason, like he plays in the regular-season
i-i'll, go Packers. And by the way, by the way, there's
a chance, the Packers and the Jets play
before next year, it's a 25% chance they play
in 24.
It's a Slimmer chance. They play this year in the Super
Bowl. The odds are 200 to 1 AKA plus. 20,000 Jets Packers
in Super Bowl. 45th would be
B-58,
Super Bowl fifty, eight had to stop and think for a second
decade or two off Super Bowl 58 in Las Vegas, wouldn't that be
something? I mean, look
if we want the ultimate outcome to this season
then sign me up all due respect to the other 30 teams
signed me up for jats Packers
at the Super Bowl
in Las Vegas. Green versus green and all the fans can go
to Vegas and lose all their greens. Sounds good to me. I'll
be there.
But if you bet it now you can win some green at plus 20,000
Jets. Packers. Isn't it worth
again? I don't bet. I don't even think we can. I'm not
interested. I enjoy the sport without having to have skin in
the game and I'm too damn cheap but
boy. It would be tempting to put $10
just for
just for craps and giggles. I'm trying to be good today now
that they're firing. In cable host left and right. Perhaps in
Giggles.
Yeah, you know, I was gonna get it in some guarded, I'd put $10
on.
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