to add to the list for Tom Brady courtesy of
UFC president Dana White appearing on
the first-ever
Gronk cast this whole Manning cast because it worked. We're
going to have
insert name cast on everything out the Wazoo. Yeah we got
Gronk cast now
for UFC fight. Here's Dana White dropping a hell of a bomb
on Saturday night.
I'm the one.
I've worked to put that deal together for
Brady and Gronk to come to the Raiders
and it was almost a done deal
and at the last minute, Gruden blew the deal up
and said that he didn't want them.
And whoa. Oh hell broke loose man, it was crazy. And
and Brady was already looking at houses, and it wasn't being
said, you have to Gronk was coming. So Las Vegas would have
had Brady And Gronk,
the year that the Bucs won the Super Bowl
except Bruton blew the deal out.
And there's so much story that goes
along with this behind the scenes
and
I was never going to tell that story till Rock just said it
but and yeah. And Dana over. That is exactly what happened
and you just told the story.
Now I fully expect it. Rob Gronkowski, you sit at the end
that is exactly what happened when he's asked about. At some
point in the near future he'll say he was just kidding.
That's his way out of everything. Always just kidding.
I had the Playbook three months before. I joined the Buccaneers
ha, I was just kidding. It's a funny joke.
It's as funny it's as funny as how about a hundred thousand
dollars per loss. Brian Flores, get funny joke tell me another
one
you know we had heard that the Raiders were one of the teams
at least on the periphery, right of the Tom Brady
sweepstakes but here's Dana White's saying he had it lined
up. It was almost a done deal. Jon Gruden puts the kibosh on
it
and you know if nothing else
It underscores how rampant tampering is because there's no
way in hell, Rob Gronkowski could have been included in
that, he was on the reserve retired list of the Patriots at
the time,
you can't talk to him.
You can't work out a deal with him
until you work out something with the Patriots and I'm
assuming that this was all happening at the time. When Tom
Brady was not yet free and clear to negotiate with anyone
because by the time we got to that point he had a deal in
place already with the Buccaneers.
So it had to have happened.
While Brady was the exclusive contractual property of
Patriots but it just shows you how Commonplace tampering is
and the Raiders along with the dolphins along with
the Buccaneers along with the 49ers and probably others were
tampering with Tom Brady and early 2020. Yeah, I mean it's
amazing though. It's amazing to think. What if I mean Dana
White, a Boston guy, a patriot guy,
you know, Bridging the Gap and helping out, Brady and
Donnie, and the rest of the group, make a deal to go to
Vegas and they'll place where all the UFC fights go on
the new stadium there and Vegas at the time, I mean, wow, that
was,
you know, sounds like it was going to be Um unveiling of
the curtain like Elvis comes back to Vegas here
which would have been cool. Certainly it makes you wonder
without a doubt. Now that Raiders team, I don't think,
you know, it worked out for Brady. Obviously, that Raiders
team. I don't know if it could have supported him
the way he needed to be sported, like he like Tampa
could. I mean, Tampa Bay is one of those teams again, you know,
for everybody to remember, everybody was like, whoa,
they're kind of damn good. Remember we were at the Super
Bowl and we had like, Matt Ryan and guy. Sounds like the Tampa
might have been the most
talented team. We played this year, where the Jameis Winston
is, you was just an issue with him, turning the football over.
But I find the, the best part of it, I guess a little bit is
that, that Gruden put the kibosh on it. I do find
that interesting because you know again, Jon, Gruden smart,
mine, you know, Super Bowl, winning coach, you know, one of
the best creative guys, we've seen in football over the last
20 years or so. But oh, he didn't want to deal with
the pressure at Tom Brady,
he wasn't going to be able to give excuses.
Uses on his way out of that one. In case things didn't work
and he couldn't blame Tom. Brady, if the offense didn't
work and then he's gonna lose control a little bit too
because Brady's gonna be able to talk to Mark Davis and go.
No, I want. This
is great that John wants that but I want this and Mark Davis
can go. Yeah. Yeah, John, I like you but we want Brady. So
sorry, I'm going to listen to him right now. That's where
I find it fascinating that,
you know, at the end of the day they go with Derek Carr, who's
a hell of a football player. But, you know, as we discussed
with the 49ers situation and all that, with Jimmy Garoppolo.
Not Tom Brady definitely not Tom Brady. And just a crazy
story to here over the weekend with you know, Brady again like
you said tampering and flirting with a lot of people here.
So to use an example that you've offered up many times in
the past about how Jon Gruden views, his offense like
a Ferrari, right? And he entrusts the keys to the quarterback.
I guess this would be the equivalent of him suddenly
getting Mario Andretti in his
prime. Yeah, to drive his Ferrari right? And so if Andrea
doesn't win the race, it ain't him. It's the Ferrari. Ferrari.
Yeah, right. Yeah, I think that's pretty fair. I do know,
I,
I've always felt that way
to a degree. I think most quarterbacks have felt that way
that have played under Jon Gruden. And, you know, again,
we saw with Derek Carr, the first few years there, it was,
you know,
we're always looking at everybody to improve the team
and it was all that type of talk all the time. Well, it's
like what other your got a good quarterback here. You know,
what are you doing? Why are you always putting him in
the corner? Like, hey, we might replace you.
So yeah, that's a little bit of maybe. The bat of Jon Gruden is
that
he wasn't always
in the car with that guy. He gave the keys. He was, you
know, micromanaging on the outside and there's a lot of
quarterbacks to played for him. That didn't like that
necessarily that's just the truth of the matter. So
I always felt like
you know, even when I was in Tampa
when there was the Brett Favre flirting and he ended up
ultimately going to the Jets. I always wondered whether of
Gruden, really wanted Brett Favre either I did because
I just went away, I think you know.
We want them to Glazer family, want some, but
just Gruden, really want him because
if it doesn't work, it's not going to be Brett, Favre's fall
and I think this is kind of the same situation but an amazing
story to be broken on the first ground cast there and yeah,
it's
pretty, pretty awesome.
Yes that's a pretty high bar for Gronk cast number two. Yes,
seriously. The the story that we posted it PFT on Saturday
night because we've got a couple of different photo
services available to us where you put in
A name or two and a search box and it returns options that you
can use and you crop them down, make them fit and all that
stuff.
When I put in Tom Brady and Dana White, it returned a photo
of the two of them together at a UFC event in Las Vegas.
January, 18 2020.
So it would have been
right in the throes of it and they both look pretty damn
happy standing there next to each other. So so Dana White
was up to something and he almost pulled it off and but
for Jon Gruden,
maybe it It would have been Tom Brady. I mean he said Brady was
looking at houses
in Las Vegas, that's how far along it got now.
Now here's where the
the
Dana White claim Sparks a second
more intriguing, right, dubli.
Right story. As we revisit some comments that Tom Brady made on
the LeBron James show previously was on HBO, I think
now is just to you
Tube production. The shop uninterrupted,
here he is talking about a certain unnamed quarterback
that he was surprised that a team that showed interest in
in, but then
suddenly backed out was deciding to stick with, let's play that
there was a story
in free agency, one of the teams they were interested in
all of a sudden, they weren't interested at the very end.
I was sitting there thinking you're sticking with that
mother
I had no desire to go to that team but now it's like why
don't you want? Absolutely. Yes
they said they didn't want me.
See that back end is what makes me think? Even though
the emission immediate reaction was he's talking about Derek Carr,
the Raiders because of what Dana White had to say and
the Jon Gruden backed out at the last minute, put the kibosh on
it.
When you hear what Brady said at the end, I would have never
gone to that team. It doesn't fit with what Dana White was
saying, unless Tom Brady was leading, Dana White to believe
that he was interested. When he really wasn't, you know,
a little leverage play, maybe get
a little money out of Tampa Bay or whoever just to have
somebody else at the table who really wants me, but that's
where it doesn't fit
with this Theory.
This Revisited and resurrected theory that Derek Carr was
the unnamed
mother bleep. ER That Brady referred to back in June of
twenty Twenty-One. Well maybe he just saying that to save
face to, you know, where he's just going on. I didn't
actually want you either. Now, I know, I don't know with
Brady, I don't know. You don't always get
the honest there, you know.
I love that his band with you're lying.
Right? Well, I saying
yeah, well, you know just the but either way it's either
Jimmy Garoppolo or Derek Carr. We can narrow down to those
two. I think that's pretty much boom. That's all there is to
it.
You know, because we know the 49ers were involved to the very
end and Brady wanted to go there as well. So,
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know exactly there but but that
would have been amazing yet. I just look at the Raiders in
the situation and where they were at that point to,
you know, not great weapons,
not a good offensive line to protect him.
I mean the Raiders are still trying to fix their offensive
line. Right now is probably one of the biggest issues with
their team so that's where I just go. I don't know if. Yeah,
what do you have really been serious about that? He's
a pretty smart football. Guy knows how to evaluate talent.
I have a hard time thinking, he was looking at the Raiders
going. That's the team I can go to the Super Bowl with next
year,
that's where I'm with you. In the fact that I don't know if
I buy it, or maybe it was that leverage play. But just
an amazing, an amazing Story.
I mean, only Tom, Brady could disappear for 10 days. Have
a story that so big there, everybody's going. What
the hell is going on? Where's this guy? Where's this guy?
And then there's another story that ups that and we forget
about it for a few days, because we go, holy crap, Ola.
This one go. This went down to,
he's is famous as it gets right now and it's Really was
an amazing weekend with all that stuff going on
at the time that Tom Brady's comments. Initially surface.
The first reaction was Jimmy Garoppolo was the unnamed
mother bleep. Er do it was referring and I started to hear
from people in the league that he actually was talking about
Derek Carr and the Raiders so that does
fit
and and there aren't many other obvious. I remember at the time
we like ran through everything he's talking about Ryan
Tannehill and the Titans you know is it's a Mike, Vrabel
thing, Brady and Vrabel together in Tennessee,
he said Out Ryan Fitzpatrick in Miami. Everybody knew they were
going to draft somebody with a fifth overall pick. So it
really wasn't sticking with that guy. Right? When they were
looking to draft Yeah, that doesn't make sense, right? Yeah
and and I see that we had a
story of PFT and it's amazing how you forget this stuff but
you know you keep stacking these items up 15 to 20 a day.
One day after another some of them become forgotten. There
was a report that that that we she was our report that he
proposed.
Packages to the Buccaneers and the Chargers back in March of
2018 and the Chargers weren't interested, but there was no
one. They were sticking with Ben because they were in
the process
of transitioning from Philip Rivers
to Justin Herbert, who they took with the sixth overall
pick. So there was no one to stick with. Yeah. In 2020 by
the Chargers, but
it would have been a tough spot. Going to the AFC West,
cuz you gotta deal with the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, and
maybe that's how Brady's wired. I want to show up and
beat my homes. Every chance I can, but he did pick the
Ideal spot for him. He won a Super Bowl
and yes, he's even while he has disappeared on a Hiatus that
presumably ends today or maybe tomorrow,
or maybe the next day,
he creates more news than anyone else currently in Camp
by virtue of This Dana White story. It just shows it
underscores. What we're talking about earlier. Why when you you
ghost the Buccaneers you ghost. Everyone
everyone's invested in this everyone's curious about this
because you're Tom. Brady, yeah, no Right. It's just too.
Hey he's Who's hotter. Who's bigger than Tom Brady right
now, he's gone to another
level of superstardom
the last two to three years. That
I doubt he could even imagine. I mean, he's literally becoming
he went from
like, Great American sports star to World sports star.
Everybody knows, Tom Brady. It's gone to a whole nother
level now
and yeah, that's the price to pay and I'm sure it's not easy.
Z I know that to I mean it's not I can't imagine being in
his shoes dealing with it all the time. That's why I think
you see a lot of really really famous people like him.
Sometimes
you know go off the deep end or pull their hair out a little
bit just because it's a life that's not based on reality.
But Brady, for the most part I still do think as a really damn
good guy. He's had a few missteps here and there
and hopefully whatever he's dealing with at home it's
getting better and now he can come back and play football
because we all want to see Brady It's just out the way
we expect them to finish it out. Tom, Brady playing good
football on the bucks, then being a player for the Super
Bowl. And him basically saying they, I'm the greatest of all
time. I'm 45 and I'm still going to,
you know, kick some butt this year
and then we'll see him for at least 10 years on Fox, is
the number one analyst, so he's not going anywhere. And one of
the things I've noticed about him in recent years, and it started
with the TB 12 stuff for five years ago,
he really is trying to
Leverage His Fame into every possible business that he can
and become a mogul
in many different respects,
I think, eventually. And this is the ultimate competition
with Peyton Manning. I don't think Peyton Manning
what maybe he will but maybe with his Omaha Productions he will
but I think through competition between Brady and Manning now
is who can amass enough money
to buy a team, not be
the 1% figurehead
owner. Takes a job in the front office and is a
minority partner
to someone else.
I think that the battle that plays out
between Peyton Manning, and Tom, Brady, in the coming years
is who's the one to get enough money.
To be the one who owns 30% of a team buys that team and becomes
one of the American oligarchs who own? Who
the national do? You think he's got more money between those
two?
Well, are we counting spouse? Well, accountant, spouse in
that. It's a no-brainer right? Okay, well that's not Lee, has
more than Tom, let's not count. Spouse then, what's that
cattle? Oh spider,
if you sink rocket, you stink Rocky says, let's count spouse
called as, you know, that white and can probably bring his
brother in involved and then go, okay, well, the tables are
turned, we're here for even then, you know, they if they
want to get into the team thing, Eli certainly,
you know, not looking under the kit, the the couch, cushions,
her pennies there. Anyway, I do Wonder just really just if you
went apples that
Buzz Manning versus Brady. I mean the Mannings both retired
as the highest-paid players in the history of the NFL and
really weren't passed up for quite a few years even after
they retired. That's how much money they made.
So I do 100, it's Peyton.
I think it's page just because of all the hammered ornaments
and all that, right?
Well, we've been all in on your TV chicken farm. You taste so
good and and he's always been best businessman. And he's
always milked, every contract he could get for every last
dollar.
And and I think Brady's playing catch-up. But he's aggressively
doing it. He is with the
the nft company and,
and the crypto. Yeah, the Bitcoin stuff or whatever,
right? And the Brady brand he's trying to make himself into
a Michael Jordan as a relates to having this brand that
generates billions long after he stopped playing.
I think he may have got started on that a little bit too late
to really give it traction. But yeah, I feel like he has
He has been and I don't want to psychoanalyze the guy any more
than we have for the past 11 days. But I really do think
that Peyton Manning at some point inspired / challenged him
to become the ultimate businessman. And I think it's
a competition between the two to see who comes up with the money
first to buy a team. I really do think that's what's driving
them now, deep down, but I want to be the first one because in
the two of us
to buy a team and maybe they both by a team
that end up in the same division and they go against
it, you know, it's Peyton versus Brady. Eddie
not as the guy on the battle of the owner Sue right in
the sweet. Right. I'll be cool. I'd be all for it. I would I mean
certainly it just yeah it says they might be able to do that and
wouldn't be shocked Mike to your point. I really wouldn't be
one reason. I don't look forward to that is
you know it's going to take some time and I'll be
I'll be pretty damn old not that. I'm not already by
the time that that happened. So I'm willing to let the next 20
years play out without either of them. Owning an NFL team.