>>> FIRST, CPAC IS NOT THE
ENTIRETY OF THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
THAT’S NUMBER ONE.
POLITICAL ORGANIZATIONS AND
CAMPAIGNS ARE ABOUT WINNING.
OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE
LOST THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES, THE SENATE AND
THE PRESIDENCY.
NO -- THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED IN A
SINGLE FOUR YEARS UNDER A
PRESIDENT SINCE HERBERT HOOVER.
NOW, IF WE PLAN TO WIN IN 2022
AND 2024, WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO
THE VOTERS.
WE HAD ECONOMIC POLICIES THAT
WERE WORKING.
SO IF THAT’S THE CASE AND WE CAN
SPEAK TO THOSE POLICIES AND
THOSE FAMILIES, THEN WE’LL WIN.
BUT IF WE IDOLIZE ONE PERSON,
THEN WE’LL LOSE.
>> BILL CASSIDY OF LOUISIANA
VOTED TO CONVICT FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
JOINING US NOW IS ONE OF THE TEN
HOUSE REPUBLICANS WHO VOTE TO
IMPEACH HIM TO SET UP THAT TRIAL.
CONGRESSMAN ADAM KINOF ILLINOIS.
>> CALLING OUT HIS ENEMY’S LIST.
I SAID I’M REMINDED WHAT MY
MOTHER SAID.
MY MOTHER IS VERY TOUGH.
THE CLARK WOMEN WERE TOUGH.
SHE SAID, JOEY, JUDGE YOURSELF
BY THE PEOPLE WHO HATE YOU.
I SAID I DON’T KNOW IF I COULD
DO THAT, MOM.
BUT I WAS THINKING ABOUT YOU AND
DONALD TRUMP PUTTING YOU ON HIS
ENEMY’S LIST.
I THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT
SHOULD BE A BADGE OF HONOR.
>> WELL, IT IS.
I WOULD RATHER BE ON THE ENEMY’S
LIST OF A LOSING CHOKE ARTIST
THAT FAILED TO WIN AN ELECTION
THAT FRANKLY HAD HE MANAGED
HALFWAY DECENTLY ANYTHING SINCE
HE WAS AN INCUMBENT HE PROBABLY
COULD HAVE WON.
BUT HE DIDN’T AND NOW HE HAS TO
BLAME EVERYBODY ELSE.
I THINK WHAT YOU COULD SEE AT
THAT SPEECH YESTERDAY WAS
RECYCLING OLD TALKING POINTS.
YOU KNOW, JUST STREAM OF
CONSCIOUSNESS.
AND I THINK IT’S OBVIOUS THERE
IS NO VISION FROM DONALD TRUMP.
THERE IS NO DESIRE TO PAINT A
VISION.
ALL HE DESIRES IS TO STAND IN
FRONT OF A CROWD.
I DON’T THINK THAT SHOWS ANY --
THAT HE’S REALLY GOING TO BE ANY
SERIOUS AT LEAST GROWING FORCE
GOING FORWARD.
>> SO, CONGRESSMAN, WE WERE -- I
SPENT A LOT OF MY DAY YESTERDAY
ON THE PHONE, REPUBLICANS I
SERVED WITH IN CONGRESS BACK IN
THE ’90s AND THE EARLY 2000s,
PEOPLE THAT I WORKED WITH IN MY
OFFICE.
AND I JUST KEPT ASKING, WAS THIS
OUR PARTY?
HAVE WE BEEN -- HAS THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY BEEN THIS BAD
FOR THIS LONG?
AND WE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT
ANSWERS.
YOUR THOUGHTS YESTERDAY LOOKING
AT YOUR PARTY AND LOOKING AT --
LOOKING AT WHAT HAPPENED AT CPAC
OVER THE WEEKEND, WHERE IS THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY RIGHT NOW?
WHAT IS ITS FUTURE IN AMERICA?
>> I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THE
CIVILISM IS SO INCREDIBLE.
I HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF PEOPLE
LOOKING AT THE GOLDEN TRUMP
STATUE THINKING THEY’RE BEING
FUNNY.
I EXPECT NOTHING BUT FEAR
THROUGH THIS SPEECH.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IN HISTORY
ALL THESE GREAT AMERICAN LEADERS
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND
RALLYING PEOPLE TO STRENGTH,
THIS PRESIDENT HAS DONE NOTHING
BUT REFLECT PEOPLE’S DARKNESS
BACK TO THEM, REFLECT THEIR
FEARS BACK TO THEM.
AND I WAS -- YOU KNOW, IT’S SAD,
BUT I’LL TELL YOU.
I PUT OUT A VIDEO CALLED NO
FEAR.
AND THE POINT OF THIS IS TO SAY,
LOOK, WE HAVE TO DISINFECT FEAR
FROM NOT JUST OUR POLITICAL
LEADER, BUT WE HAVE TO DISINFECT
IT FROM OURSELVES.
IT IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE
UNITED STATES.
THE BIGGEST ENEMY IS FEAR IN OUR
HEARTS.
IT IS SAD, BUT I’M STILL HOPEFUL
THAT 45% OF PEOPLE AT THIS TRUMP
RALLY DIDN’T WANT DONALD TRUMP
AGAIN.
I THINK THERE IS A GROWING
NUMBER OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT
SEE HE’S A HAS BEEN.
>> VERY TAPPED INTO.
THE EMOTION OF FEAR IS ANGER.
I THINK THEY WERE TAPPING THAT
AS WELL.
LET’S BRING INTO THE
CONVERSATION SUSAN.
DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING AT CPAC
THAT CONDEMNED THE VIOLENCE ON
JAN 6th OR TRIED TO STOP FUTURE
VIOLENCE?
BY THE WAY, YOU CAN TAKE THE
NEXT QUESTION TO THE
CONGRESSMAN.
>> NO, I CERTAINLY DID NOT,
MIIKKA.
WHAT I HEARD WAS PEOPLE PRAISING
WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY THE
6th, SHOWING A PARTY THAT IS
JUST UNRECOGNIZABLE TO MYSELF
AND I’M SURE TO THE CONGRESSMAN
AS WELL.
CONGRESSMAN, YOU MENTIONED THE
ISSUE OF FEAR.
I WAS THINKING BACK IN 2017,
MITCH McCONNELL AND PAUL RYAN
REALLY DIDN’T UNDERSTAND DONALD
TRUMP AND THEY ALMOST ACTED FROM
FEAR IN PUSHING BACK AGAINST HIM
BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T KNOW WHAT HE
WAS GOING TO DO NEXT TO HIM.
SO NOT STANDING UP TO DONALD
TRUMP PROVED TO BE DISASTROUS
FOR THE PARTY AND FRANKLY FOR
THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
BUT I’M CURIOUS NOW WITH YOUR
NEW VIDEO THAT YOU HAVE OUT
THERE AND PUTTING COUNTRY FIRST,
HOW DO YOU STAND UP TO DONALD
TRUMP AND SHOW NO FEAR?
IS IT THROUGH THINGS LIKE
SUPPORTING YOUR OTHER REPUBLICAN
CONGRESS MEMBERS WHO STOOD UP TO
DONALD TRUMP AND VOTED TO
IMPEACH HIM?
CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE
BIT ON STANDING UP TO FEAR?
>> YEAH.
I THINK STANDING UP TO FEAR IS
JUST TRUTH TELLING, RIGHT?
IT IS EXPLAINING HOW YOU ARE
BEING MANIPULATED.
SO THE FACT THAT YOU LOOK AT
THAT SPEECH AND IF YOU HAD SEEN
MY VIDEO PRIOR AND HAD SEEN THE
SPEECH, YOU WOULD SEE THAT
DONALD TRUMP IS USING FEAR.
THAT’S WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE WAY TO SHOW NO FEAR IS JUST
TO TELL THE TRUTH.
DONALD TRUMP IS A CON ARTIST
USING YOUR FEARS AND DARKNESS TO
FEED HIS EGO.
THAT’S WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS LOST
ITS WAY.
THIS IS NOT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
I JOINED AND YOU JOINED.
THIS IS A REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT
CAN GET BACK TO IT.
BY THE WAY, JUST TELLING THE
TRUTH AND STANDING ALONE IN A
CROWD CAN SHOW NO FEAR.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, I’M GOING TO
WIN A THIRD TIME, THE ELECTION,
SO CONTINUED LIES.
BY THE WAY, MOST OF THE PEOPLE
IN THAT ROOM PROBABLY KNOW THE