STRATEGIST AND FOUNDER OF
COUNTRY OVER PARTY.
MATT, STRAIGHT TO YOU ON THE
TEXAS DEMOCRATS.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BREAKING
NEWS.
EUGENE, AS WE WERE COMING ON THE
AIR WE LEARNED THE HOUSE SELECT
COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE
JANUARY 6th INSURRECTION HAS
CALLED ITS FIRST HEARING.
IT WILL BE ON JULY 27th, ALMOST
SEVEN MONTHS AFTER THE
INSURRECTION, AND THE FIRST
HEARING WILL FEATURE THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS, THE
POLICE OFFICERS, WHOSE BODIES
WERE MUTILATED BY TRUMP
SUPPORTERS.
WHAT ELSE DO WE KNOW?
>> I MEAN, THATS KIND OF WHAT
WE KNOW.
WE KNOW THEYRE GOING TO BE
LOOKING INTO EXACTLY WHAT
HAPPENED THAT DAY TO THESE
POLICE OFFICERS AND THESE LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.
WEVE HEARD FROM THEM A LITTLE
BIT.
WEVE SEEN THEM, SOME OF THEM IN
SOME OTHER HEARINGS.
WEVE ALSO SEEN THEM ON AIR WITH
YOU GUYS HERE ON MSNBC AND WE
WILL CONTINUE TO HEAR AND SEE
SOME OF THESE LAWSUITS GO
THROUGH IS HOW BAD IT REALLY WAS
FOR POLICE OFFICERS AND CAPITOL
POLICE THAT DAY.
WEVE SEEN THEM BE BEATEN AS
REPUBLICANS CONTINUE TO SPREAD
MISINFORMATION, DISINFORMATION
AND WHITE WASHING WHAT HAPPENED
THAT DAY, IT WAS A TOURIST
EVENT, IT WASNT THAT SCARY.
WE SAW MEGYN KELLY SAY IT WASNT
AN INSURRECTION.
ON JULY 27th, THE FIRST TIME
MANY OF THESE OFFICERS ARE GOING
TO HAVE THEIR DAY AND TELL
PEOPLE JUST HOW SCARY IT WAS
THAT THESE PEOPLE WERENT THERE
JUST TO WALK THROUGH THE
ROTUNDA, THAT THEY WERE THERE TO
HURT PEOPLE HE AND THAT IT WAS A
VERY SCARY SITUATION AND
HOPEFULLY WHAT WERE HEARING
FROM PEOPLE ESPECIALLY DEMOCRATS
ON THE SELECT COMMITTEE IS THEY
HOPE THIS STARTS TO OPEN THE
EYES OF REPUBLICANS.
IT SEEMS DIFFICULT TO SEE THAT
AS REPUBLICANS HAVE PUSHED SO
FAR AGAINST ANY KIND OF ACTION
ON JANUARY 6th.
>> DONNA EDWARDS, SOMETHING I
ASKED ON THIS PROGRAM IS WHETHER
THEY WOULD CONSIDER LETTING
THESE HEARINGS SORT OF SPEAK FOR
THEMSELVES, THAT IT IS THE
COVERAGE OF THE INSURRECTION
THAT HAS BEEN SILOED INTO
ECO-CHAMBERS, IF YOU WILL, AND
PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE FACTS
WATCH THE ACTUAL CAMERA FOOTAGE.
I DONT KNOW HOW YOU CAN DENY
WHAT CAMERAS RECORDED THAT DAY,
BUT THEY DO DENY THEY DO.
I WONDER HOW IMPORTANT IT IS
THIS SORT OF UNFILTERED
TESTIMONY FROM EYEWITNESS
PARTICIPANTS IS -- AND,
FACTUALLY, EVEN IF NO PICKS ARE
MADE, THIS IS A BIPARTISAN
COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING.
LIZ CHENEY IS ON THE COMMITTEE.
SHE IS AS COMMITTED AS ALL THE
DEMOCRATS PICKED TO GETTING TO
THE TRUTH OF JANUARY 6th.
I WONDER WHAT YOU MAKE OF THE
PUBLIC SEEING AND HEARING IN
THIS NEW SETTING OF
CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS.
>> WELL, I THINK A PRESENTATION
THAT JUST SORT OF WALKS
STEP-BY-STEP, THE EXPERIENCE OF
THOSE OFFICERS ON THE GROUND
HEARING THAT DIRECTLY FROM THEM
SEEING THE VIDEO IT TESTIMONY OR
EVIDENCE THAT WE WILL NO DOUBT
SEE, AND I THINK THAT CHAIRMAN
THOMPSON, BENNIE THOMPSON, HAS
MADE GOOD ON HIS CALL SAYING
THAT HES GOING TO PROCEED WITH
HEARINGS WHETHER OR NOT KEVIN
McCARTHY MAKES APPOINTMENTS,
JUST A PRESENTATION OF THE
FACTS.
THE TRUTH IS THAT REPUBLICANS ON
CAPITOL HILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
HAPPENED THAT DAY.
THEY MAY BE TRYING TO REWRITE IT
OR IGNORE IT, BUT THEY KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED THAT DAY.
ITS IMPORTANT TO SEE
STEP-BY-STEP SO THEY CAN
UNDERSTAND HOW UNDER THREAT OUR
DEMOCRACY WAS AND IS BECAUSE OF
WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6.
>> MATT DOWD, I THINK THE IDEA
OF AN ONGOING THREAT MAKES THIS
INVESTIGATION NOT JUST URGENTLY
NEEDED SEVEN MONTHS OUT BUT
URGENTLY NEEDED IN THE MOMENT,
IN THE THREAT ENVIRONMENT IN
WHICH WE LIVE.
THE EX-PRESIDENT BY WHATEVER THE
HECK HE USES TO COMMUNICATE IS
CHURNING OUT, PROMPTING OUT LIE
AFTER LIE AFTER LIE ABOUT THE
ELECTION.
IT IS A FIXTURE OF HIS POST
PRESIDENCY TO CONTINUE TO LIE
ABOUT THE ELECTION RESULTS.
THERE ARE BRUSHFIRES IN
MICHIGAN, IN PENNSYLVANIA,
THERES THE ONGOING FAUX AUDIT.
IT IS AN ONGOING DELUSION THERE
WAS ELECTION FRAUD AND I THOUGHT
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS
THE PRESIDENT DID YESTERDAY WAS
FIGHT FOR VOTING RIGHTS AND
AGAINST THE BIG LIE.
>> WELL, I THINK ITS COMPLETELY
APROPOS WE JUST HEARD THIS
HEARING IS GETTING ANNOUNCED
BECAUSE THERES A THROUGH LINE
FROM JANUARY 6th WHERE THERE WAS
AN ATTEMPT TO NULLIFY AN
ELECTION BOTH BY THE PROTESTERS
AND INSURRECTIONISTS AND BY
PEOPLE AND REPUBLICANS IN
CONGRESS AND WHATS HAPPENING
WITH VOTING RIGHTS.
ITS A LINE YOU CAN CONNECT ALL
THE DOTS IN THIS VARIOUS WAY IN
THIS.
I WAS VERY HAPPY ABOUT THE
PRESIDENTS SPEECH.
TO ME I WATCHED THE PRESIDENTS
SPEECH AND HIS ACTIONS.
I HAD HOPED MORE WOULD HAVE BEEN
DONE EARLIER.
IM GLAD MORE SEEMS TO BE ABOUT
TO BE DONE.
BUT ITS ALMOST AS IF HES GOING
THROUGH STAGES OF GRIEF ABOUT
WHAT HE -- WHAT THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY FUNDAMENTALLY IS.
AT FIRST I THINK HE WAS IN
DENIAL THAT THEY WERENT REALLY
AN AUTOCRATIC PARTY THAT WAS
TRYING TO OVERTHROW THE
DEMOCRACY, AND THEN HE STARTED
BARGAINING, OKAY, I CAN FIGURE
THIS OUT AND GET THIS DONE, AND
THEN I THINK HE BECAME SAD, LIKE
OH, MY GOSH, THIS IS THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND NOW HES
ANGRY.
THAT WILL FINALLY GET TO
ACCEPTANCE OF WHAT THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY TODAY IS.
IT IS SAD FOR ME TO SAY, AS I
KNOW IT IS FOR YOU, TO IDENTIFY
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS AN
AUTOCRATIC PARTY THAT DOESNT
CARE ABOUT DEMOCRACY ANYMORE.
THATS FUNDAMENTALLY WHERE WERE
AT TODAY AND THATS WHY, TO ME,
JANUARY 6 IS AN EXTENSION OR IS
THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS OF
AN ATTEMPT TO TAKE AWAY PEOPLES
VOTING RIGHTS AND TO NULLIFY
ELECTIONS, AND THATS WHY WE END
UP HERE IN TEXAS.
TO ME ITS A GREAT THING TO SEE
TEXANS -- I LIVE HERE AND HAVE
LIVED HERE FOR 35 YEARS -- RISE
UP AND MAYBE PUSH WASHINGTON TO
GO FORWARD.
THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD
SOMETHING FUNDAMENTAL DONE ON
VOTING RIGHTS WAS DONE BY A
TEXAN, LBJ, IN THE 60s, THE
LAST TIME IT WAS DONE WHERE WHEN
HE PUSHED THE PEOPLE IN CONGRESS
AND THE PEOPLE IN THE SENATE TO
GET IT DONE.
SO I THINK JOE BIDENS SPEECH
WAS GOOD.
IM GLAD HES ANGRY, AND NOW I