>>> THE OTHER TOP STORY TONIGHT, THE BACKLASH.
THE BACKLASH. >> WE’RE ALL GOD’S CHILDREN!
BLACK AND WHITE!
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♪ >> SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!
>> YOU’RE LOOKING AT PROTESTS IN
WASHINGTON, D.C. TODAY.
ADVOCATES HOLDING THE SIT-IN.
CHILDREN WRAPPED IN SILVER
BLANKETS IN SOLIDARITY WITH WHAT
CHILDREN ARE UNDERGOING WITH
THIS TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ZERO
TOLERANCE POLICY.
TOLERANCE POLICY. IN NEW YORK, CROWDS GATHERING AT
LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, SUPPORTING
CHILDREN, THAT WE BELIEVED TO BE
SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS.
SOME HOLDING SIGNS, WE ARE WITH
YOU, AND THE SINGING OF WE SHALL
OVERCOME.
OVERCOME. TAKE A LOOK IN PORTLAND, OREGON,
WHERE POSTERS SET UP TENTS
FORCING I.C.E. ENFORCEMENT FIELD
OFFICES TO TEMPORARILY BE SHUT
DOWN.
DOWN. THIS RESISTANCE, GETTING LARGER.
NINE DAYS FROM NOW, THERE ARE
MAJOR PROTESTS PLANNED FOR JUNE
30th, ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY,
TO RALLY FOR A CONTINUED EFFORT
AGAINST THE ZERO TOLERANCE PART
OF THIS POLICY WHICH REMAINS IN
FORCE.
FORCE. A POWERHOUSE LIST OF CELEBRITIES
SAYING THEY WANT TO JOIN THIS
CAUSE AND USE THEIR PLATFORMS.
MANY CELEBRITIES EXPECTED TO
COME OUT IN LOS ANGELES AND NEW
YORK AS WELL.
NOW, A STAR LENDING HIS VOICE TO
THE MIX, WILMER VALDERRAMA FROM
THE SITCOM "THAT ’70s SHOW," HIS
FAMILY EMIGRATED HERE WHEN HE
WAS 14.
WAS 14. HE TWEETED ABOUT WHAT REAL
LEADERSHIP WOULD INVOLVE,
EMPOWERING THOSE AROUND TO MAKE
AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE ANYTHING IS
POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE. IN FACT, TWO YEARS AGO, HE
TALKED ABOUT THE STRUGGLES HIS
OWN PARENTS WENT THROUGH,
FOLLOWING THE RULES AND
IMMIGRATING LEGALLY, AFTER
SELLING EVERYTHING THEY HAD TO
GET THE FAMILY TO AMERICA.
>> I REMEMBER ONE TIME WITH MY
MOTHER WALKING COUPLE MILES BACK
TO THE HOUSE WITH THE GROCERY
BAGS.
BAGS. AND I LOOK TO MY MOM AND I SAY,
MOM, ONE DAY WE’RE GONNA DRIVE.
AND SHE SAID, OKAY, MIJO.
>> WILMER VALDERRAMA JOINS US
NOW.
NOW. YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO OCCUPIES AN
INTERESTING POSITION, BECAUSE OF
THE WORK YOU DO.
A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE YOU.
ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE.
AND YET, WE’RE IN A COUNTRY
WHERE WE’RE SEEING A DEBATE OVER
WHO REALLY AMERICAN AND WHETHER
PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET
HERE SHOULD BE MISTREATED, AS A,
QUOTE, DETERRENT, AS A TOOL OF
U.S. GOVERNMENT POLICY.
WALK US THROUGH HOW YOU VIEW
THIS.
THIS. >> WELL, I THINK THERE’S A
MISCONCEPTION.
MISCONCEPTION. WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
EARLIER IS RELEVANT TO THIS
TOPIC BECAUSE THERE’S A PIVOT
THAT HAPPENS ON A DAILY BASIS
WHEN YOU’RE TELLING A STORY AND
BROADCASTING NEWS.
BROADCASTING NEWS. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, THEY’RE
BLURRING THE LINES OF WHAT THE
WORD IMMIGRATION REALLY MEANS.
THEY’RE MAKING IT SOUND LIKE
THERE’S THIS PROBLEM, THIS
ISSUE.
ISSUE. I THINK ALSO THERE’S ANOTHER
BLURRY LINE WHERE THEY THINK
THAT POLITICS ARE NOT HUMAN
ISSUES.
ISSUES. HUMAN ISSUES ARE NOT POLITICS.
RIGHT?
RIGHT? SO THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT WE
ARE LOOKING AT THIS GROUP OF
INDIVIDUALS COMING TO AMERICA AS
AAS
AAS PERCENTAGE, AS AS OPPOSED TO
ACTUAL INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE A
FAMILY.
FAMILY. I THINK THAT’S THE BIGGEST
MISCON SEJZ
MISCON SEJZ MISCONCEPTION AND WHY PEOPLE ARE
SO FAR REMOVED FROM A SITUATION,
IT’S HARD FOR THEM TO HAVE AN
OPINION WHEN THEY’RE NOT REALLY
AFFECTED DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY
BY IT.
BY IT. THERE’S MORE TO RELATE TO THIS
THAN THEY HAVE UNDERSTOOD.
>> I WONDER HOW YOU FEEL ARTISTS
CAN ENGAGE THIS.
BECAUSE A LOT OF POLITICS IS,
EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO COME
DOWN WHERE THEY DO.
AND ANY BIG HIT SHOW LIKE YOURS,
ANY BIG MOVIE IS GOING TO HAVE
PEOPLE OF ALL VIEWS WATCHING IT.
AND YET WE’RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT
WHETHER WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE
TO DEAL WITH ETHICAL AND MORAL
LINES AS A NATION.
FOX NEWS HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF
CRITICISM FOR THE WAY THEY’VE
DEHUMANIZED SOME PEOPLE IN THIS.
NOW THEIR TALENT IS SLAMMING
SOME OF THEIR COVERAGE.
JUDD APATOW SAYING THEY’RE
PROMOTING EEMP IDEAS.
ANOTHER FOX TALENT SAYS HE’S
DISGUSTED TO WORK AT A COMPANY
THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH FOX
NEWS.
NEWS. SETH McFARLAND SAYING HE’S
EMBARRASSED BY THIS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE ROLE OF
ARTISTS WHO HAVE SUCH A
FOLLOWING IN THIS DEBATE?
>> I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT THAT
WE BLOCK THE, YOU KNOW, THE
PIVOT OF THE CONVERSATION.
AND INSTEAD OF MAKING IT
POLITICS, TO NOT FORGET, THESE
ARE HUMAN ISSUES.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY
CYNICAL ABOUT ARTISTS,
MUSICIANS, ATHLETES, AND
EVERYONE GETTING INVOLVED IN THE
NATIONAL CONVERSATION.
NATIONAL CONVERSATION. BUT LET’S NOT FORGET THAT WE’RE
ALSO HUMAN BEINGS AND THAT WE
ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A STORY
THAT NOT ONLY RESEMBLES BUT
PARALLELS THE PEOPLE IN THE
BORDER AND THE 2,000 KIDS THAT
CAME HERE WITH HOPE.
YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU CAN DO FROM
YOUR PLATFORM, IT’S TO CONTINUE
TO HOLD OBVIOUSLY THE STORY,ACCO
AND NOT LET THE PIVOT DECIDE
THIS ISSUE SLOWS DOWN AND
BECOMES ONE MORE OF THE THINGS
OF THE LAUNDRY LIST THAT WE HAVE
TO ADDRESS WITH AN
ADMINISTRATION THAT
ADMINISTRATION THAT UNFORTUNATELY SEES THAT THIS WAS
A VERY HARD THING TO PIVOT.
AND THIS WAS A VERY DIFFICULT
THING TO TELL A WORLD, A PLANET,
RIGHT, AND SPECIFICALLY, A
UNITED STATES, THAT THIS IS
ISN’T YOU SHOULDN’T FEEL.
SO WHAT CAN WE DO TOGETHER?
WE HAVE TO HOLD THEM
ACCOUNTABLE, WE HAVE TO PUT
PRESSURE, AND WE HAVE TO GET A
TIMELINE ON WHEN THESE FAMILIES
ARE GOING TO BE REUNITED.
THIS IS THE OTHER THING.
THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER DOESN’T
MEAN THAT -- ALL THAT MEANS IS
THAT THE NEW ARRIVALS ARE GOING
TO BE KEPT IN THE SAME CAGE.
>> STAY WITH ME.
BECAUSE YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE
POLICY PIECE AND WE WANT TO DO
SOMETHING HERE TO BRIDGE THE
CONVERSATION.
CONVERSATION. I WANT YOU TO STAY WITH ME, AND
I THINK YOU TO BRING IN
CONGRESSWOMAN PRAMILA JAYA PAL,
SHE’S WORKING AS WELL ON THESE
JUNE 30th PROTESTS.
AND SO TO THE POINT I WAS JUST
DISCUSSING WITH WILMER, I WANT
TO READ SOMETHING ELSE THAT
ANOTHER ARTIST HAD SAID, A
COMEDIAN.
COMEDIAN. BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE STORIES
THAT GO ACROSS POLITICS AND
POLICY.
POLICY. BILLY IKE NER, WHO’S BEEN A BIG
CRITIC OF DONALD TRUMP SAID
SOMETHING THAT CUTS TO THE HEART
OF IT, CONGRESSWOMAN.
HE WROTE, THIS WILL ALWAYS NOW
BE THE ADMINISTRATION THAT
RIPPED CHILDREN AWAY FROM THEIR
PARENTS, EVEN CHILDREN WITH
MENTAL DISABILITIES, THEY DIDN’T
STOP UNTIL SHOUTED AT FROM EVERY
CORNER OF THE GLOBE, TELLING
THEM THEY ARE INHUMANE, THAT IS
WHO THEY ARE, AND THEY’LL DO IT
AGAIN.
AGAIN. CONGRESSWOMAN, YOUR VIEW OF THAT
POINT AND AS WILMER’S WITH US,
WHAT IT MEANS FOR ARTISTS AND
OTHERS TO BE SPEAKING OUT NOT AS
A POLITICAL MATTER, BUT AS THEY
ARGUE, AS A MORAL MATTER.
>> WELL, I THINK I COMPLETELY
AGREE WITH THAT.
IT IS NOT A POLITICAL MATTER.
IT IS NOT A POLICY MATTER.
IT REALLY IS A QUESTION OF RIGHT
AND WRONG.
AND WRONG. AND I SAID THAT ON THE FLOOR
TODAY.
TODAY. WITH THE RULE -- I SPOKE ON THE
RULE AROUND THE RYAN BILL,
BECAUSE WHAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS
DONE AND WHAT I SAW AT THE
FEDERAL DETENTION CENTER,
ACTUALLY A FEDERAL PRISON, IN
TALKING TO THESE WOMEN, THESE
ARE ASYLUM SEEKERS.
THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING
A BETTER LIFE.
THEY HAVE MADE TRAGIC, TRAGIC
CHOICES BECAUSE THEY HAD TO.
ONE WOMAN WHO LEFT HER BLIND
CHILD AT HOME AND BROUGHT HER
OTHER CHILD TO SAFETY BECAUSE
SHE HAD TO AT LEAST SAVE ONE OF
THEM.
THEM. ANOTHER WOMAN WHO’S ELDEST SON
HAD BEEN SHOT AND KILLED BY
GANGS, SECOND SON, SHOT AND
PARALYZED BY GANGS, AND FINALLY
TOOK THE THIRD CHILD, AGAIN TO
TRY TO BRING THAT CHILD TO
SAFETY.
SAFETY. AND TO SEE THESE CHILDREN BEING
STRIPPED AWAY FROM THEIR
PARENTS, THESE WOMEN TOLD ME
THAT CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS ONE
YEAR OLD, THAT THEY HAD BEEN
TAKEN AWAY, THEY HAVEN’T TALKED
TO THEIR KIDS.
SO I THINK HUMANIZING THIS ISSUE
AS YOUR PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID,
AND HAVING OUR CULTURAL ICONS
AROUND THE GLOBE FRANKLY, NOT
JUST THE COUNTRY, SAY TO US THAT
AMERICA, YOU ARE BETTER THAN
THIS --
THIS -- >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> AS HORRIBLE AS THIS HAS
BEEN --
BEEN -- >> I WANT TO GET YOU AND WILMER
ON THIS.
ON THIS. LET ME PLAY YOU AND OTHERS WHO
SPOKE OUT AS EARLY AS BEFORE
THIS WAS THE TOP NEWS STORY, IN
ALL FAIRNESS, THE NEWS RESPONDS
TO WHAT’S OUT THERE.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> THEY WEPT EVERY SINGLE TIME
THEY TALKED ABOUT THEIR
CHILDREN.
CHILDREN. THE MOTHERS WERE LITERALLY
SITTING IN A ROOM NEXT TO WHERE
THE CHILDREN WERE BEING HELD AND
COULD HEAR THEIR CHILDREN
SCREAMING.
SCREAMING. >> WHAT COUNTRY IS THAT!
THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
AMERICA. >> MY YOUNGER BROTHER LEFT BACK
IN JAPAN, NEVER REALLY RECOVERED
FROM THE TRAUMA OF HIS
SEPARATION FROM HIS MOTHERS AND
HIS SIBLINGS.
HIS SIBLINGS. MY MOTHER ALWAYS HAD DEEP SORROW
ABOUT HAVING TO LEAVE HER BABY
BEHIND.
BEHIND. >> HOW IMPORTANT IS IT FOR
POLITICAL LEADERS AND OTHERS TO
BEAR WITNESS SO THAT THE NATION
CAN RESPOND?
CAN RESPOND? FIRST TO YOU, CONGRESSWOMAN.
>> IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US
TO BEAR WITNESS, BUT WE ARE ALSO
THE ONES -- I’M AN IMMIGRANT
MYSELF, ONE OF ONLY 12 MEMBERS
OF CONGRESS, INCLUDING SENATOR
HIRONO, WHO WERE BORN OUTSIDE OF
THE UNITED STATES.
AND SO TO HEAR PEOPLE INCLUDING
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES TALK ABOUT IMMIGRANTS, BY
CONFLATING EVERYBODY, GANG
MEMBERS, IN USING WORDS LIKE
INFEST, IS SO HUMILIATING TO WHO
WE ARE AS A COUNTRY.
AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE
ARE RESPONDING TO, THAT THIS
ISN’T A POLITICAL ISSUE.
MY OFFICE HAS BEEN FLOODED WITH
CALLS FROM REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
NOT JUST IN MY DISTRICT, SAYING,
THANK YOU, STAND UP FOR THIS.
I MAY NOT AGREE WITH YOU ON
OTHER THINGS, BUT I DO AGREE
WITH YOU ON THIS.
WE SHOULD NOT TREAT CHILDREN
THIS WAY.
THIS WAY. AND THAT IS WHY, YOU KNOW, I
WORKED TO ORGANIZE THIS MASS
PROTEST ON JUNE 30th WITH MOVE
ON, AND THE NATIONAL DOMESTIC
WORKERS ALLIANCE.
WORKERS ALLIANCE. WE’RE NOW UP TO 300 GROUPS, 380
EVENTS ON JUNE 30th AROUND THE
COUNTRY, OVER 300,000 PEOPLE
THAT HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP TO
COME AND A HUGE PROTEST HERE IN
WASHINGTON, D.C. BECAUSE IT’S
OUTRAGEOUS THAT THIS PRESIDENT
CREATED THIS CRISIS.
HE IMPLEMENTED THE ZERO
TOLERANCE POLICY.
TOLERANCE POLICY. THAT IS WHY WE ARE SEEING WHAT
WE ARE SEEING.
HE CAN LIFT UP THE PHONE AND
CALL JEFF SESSIONS AND END IT.
IT DOES NOT NEED AN EXECUTIVE
ORDER.
ORDER. AND HE DIDN’T ACTUALLY REVERSE
THE POLICY.
THE POLICY. >> NO.
>> NO. >> AND WHAT HE’S DOING RIGHT NOW
IS SAYING, LET’S JUST
INDEFINITELY DETAIN IN PRISON
CAMPS, ARI, FAMILIES.
THAT’S WHAT WE’RE GOING TO DO.
WHO THINKS INCARCERATION OF
CHILDREN IS A SOLUTION TO WHAT
WE’RE DEALING WITH?
THAT’S JUST WRONG AND HE NEEDS
TO REVERSE IT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. AND THAT’S WHY THERE’S SO MUCH
LEFT, EVEN WITH THE NEW ORDER.
WILMER, YOUR VIEWS, AS YOU WERE
WATCHING THE CLIPS, INCLUDING
SENATOR HIRONO.
SENATOR HIRONO. >> YOU KNOW, I’VE TOLD MY STORY
SO MANY TIMES.
WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET TO PUT --
THIS IS BEYOND A MATTER OF JUST
LIKE WEAR SOMEBODY ELSE’S SHOES.
THIS IS -- THIS IS THE MOMENT WE
HAVE BEEN CALLED TO BE THERE FOR
OUR FELLOW HUMAN, FOR OUR FELLOW
BROTHER AND SISTER WHO SEEKS
WHAT EVERYONE FROM MULTIPLE
GENERATIONS HAS COME TO THIS
COUNTRY TO SEEK.
THERE’S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THOSE FAMILIES DETAINED.
BY THE WAY, WHO’S LOOKING OUT
FOR OUR CHILDREN?
WHO’S MAKING SURE THEY’RE WARM
AT NIGHT?
AT NIGHT? WHO’S BATHING THEM?
WHO’S WATCHING THEM BATHE?
WE DON’T HAVE ANY INFORMATION
ABOUT HOW THEY’RE BEING TREATED.
THAT’S WHY THERE’S AN URGENCY TO
REUNITE THESE KIDS WITH THE
FAMILIES.
FAMILIES. I THINK IT’S OUR RESPONSIBILITY
TO NOT LET DOWN, NOT QUIET DOWN,
AND NOT LOOK AT THIS EXECUTIVE
ORDER AS MOST ARE GOING TO LOOK
LIKE, WELL, HERE IT IS, WHAT
ELSE DO YOU GUYS WANT?
NO, THERE’S A TIMELINE THAT WE
NEED TO SEE WHEN THESE 2,000
KIDS ARE GOING TO BE REUNITED
WITH THEIR KIDS.
THERE’S KIDS AND YOUNG MEN AND
WOMEN DYING IN THESE CAGES
BECAUSE THEY HAVEN’T GOTTEN THE
PROPER CARE.
PROPER CARE. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE RALLY IN
WASHINGTON, THERE’S ONE IN
TORNILOTORN
TORNILOTORN TORNILLO, TEXAS, WHERE THE TENT
CITIES ARE BEING BUILT, AND
WE’RE BRINGING ELECTED OFFICIALS
AND HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCATES AND
RELIGIOUS LEADERS TO GO OUT
THERE AND PUT THE PRESSURE AND
DEMAND A TIMELINE ON WHEN WE’RE
GOING TO REUNITE EVERYONE AGAIN.
THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, THIS
IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT IF WE
LET THEM COOL DOWN, YOU KNOW,
THEN THEY HAVE NOW A RECIPE TO
GET AWAY WITH THIS KIND OF THING
THAT WE’RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE