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AINSLEY: PRESIDENT TRUMP
SOUNDING OFF ON FORMER NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISOR JOHN BOLTON HAS
HIS NEW BOOK HITS SHELVES TODAY
SAYING HE SHOULD GO TO JAIL FOR
PLUSING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.
>> HERE TO REACT IS FOX NEWS
SENIOR JUDICIAL ANALYST JUDGE
ANDREW NAPOLITANO.
JUDGE, IN THOSE COMMENTS THE
PRESIDENT MADE YESTERDAY
ANTICIPATING THE RELEASE OF HIS
BOOK TODAY, HE EXPANDED ON WHAT
LEGALLY HE HAS TO GO ON WITH THAT I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU
THAT I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU
THINK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S CASE
CASE.
>> JOHN BOLTON CAME OUT AND SAID
THAT DOESN’T WORK WITH COUNTRY
TO COUNTRY.
WHAT’S YOUR REACTION?
>> THIS IS GUY WITH NO
PERSONALITY.
ALL HE WANTED TO DO WAS DROP
BOMBS ON EVERYBODY HE WAS ONE.
PEOPLE WHO GOT US IN A WAR IN
THE MIDDLE EAST.
RECENTLY I SAID WHAT DID YOU
THINK?
I THINK MADE THE RIGHT DECISION.
I SAID YOU LOST ME THERE IT WAS
THE WORST DECISION IN THE
HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY.
I KNOW YOU MAY DISAGREE WITH
THAT WELL NOW YOU MIGHT AGREE.
AT THE TIME YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU
KNOW, FELT DIFFERENTLY.
BUT ALSO, THE LIBYAN MODEL, DO
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, RIGHT?
LOOK IT UP.
ONE OF THE DUMBEST THINGS EVER
SAID, I THINK DEFACED THE DEFACE
LIBYAN MODEL WOULD SET US BACK,
YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
JOHN BOLTON WAS A STUPID GUILE
AND A GUY WITH NO HEART.
AND HE ALSO HAD A STATEMENT THAT
HE WOULD LIE WHENEVER HE HAD TO.
HE HAS THAT STATEMENT.
IT’S A WELL-KNOWN STATEMENT.
AND I FIRED HIM.
AND I DIDN’T THINK IT WAS A BIG
DEAL.
I WASN’T AROUND HIM VERY MUCH.
BUT, WHAT HE DID DO IS HE TOOK
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION AND HE
PUBLISHED IT DURING A
PRESIDENCY.
ONE THING TO WRITE A BOOK AFTER.
DURING AND I BELIEVE HE IS A
CRIMINAL AND I BELIEVE FRANKLY
HE SHOULD GO TO JAIL FOR THAT.
BRIAN: JUDGE, I DON’T KNOW IF
YOU HAVE READ THE BOOK, BUT WHAT
DO YOU THINK?
>> YEAH.
NO.
I HAVE NOT READ THE BOOK, BRIAN.
MY FAMILIARITY WITH THE BOOK IS
BASED UPON THE LEGAL PLEADINGS
THAT THE DOJ FILED AND QUITE
FRANKLY ON YOUR TERRIFIC
INTERVIEW WITH HIM YESTERDAY
WHICH IS VERY ENLIGHTENING.
THE PRESIDENT HAS A GOOD POINT.
IT’S ALMOST UNHEARD OF THAT
SOMEONE WOULD BE ACCUSED RRNL
STEALING NATIONAL SECURITY
SECRETS DURING THE SAME
PRESIDENCY.
BUT THE JUSTIFIABLE DEPARTMENT
HALLS TWO PROBLEMS HERE.
ONE IS THEY WAITED TOO LONG TOO
LATE TO BRING THIS ACTION TO
STOP THE BOOK FROM BEING
PUBLISHED BEFORE A COURT IF THIS
WAS SO SERIOUS WHY WEREN’T YOU
HERE A MONTH AGO WHY DID YOU
WAIT UNTIL 250,000 COPIES OF HIS
BOOK HAD BEEN DISTRIBUTED?
THE OTHER IS I DON’T KNOW WHAT
THE SECRETS ARE IN THIS BOOK AND
THE JUDGE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THE
SECRETS WERE IN THE BOOK UNTIL
THEY WENT INTO CHAMBERS WITH
JUST JOHN BOLTON’S LAWYER AND
THE DOJ LAWYERS AND THE JUDGE
AND THE PRESS WASN’T THERE AND
THEY POINTED OUT WHAT THE
NATIONAL SECURITY SECRETS ARE.
SO AT SOME POINT WE WILL FIND
OUT, BRIAN, JUST HOW SERIOUS AND
HOW DAMAGING OUR WORLD IS IF
IT’S SERIOUS AND DAMAGING, THE
PRESIDENT IS RIGHT.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CAN
PURSUE JOHN.
THEY CAN GET A JUDGE TO ORDER
SIMON AND SHUSTER, HIS
PUBLISHER, TO PRESERVE ALL
INCOME DERIVED FROM THE SALE OF
THE BOOK AND THE JUSTIFIABLE
DEPARTMENT CAN ATTEMPT TO SEIZE
THAT.
ALL THAT TIME PERSUADE A GRAND
JURY THAT THIS WAS A CRIMINAL
ACT SO THE PRESIDENT IS RIGHT.
THE ISSUE IS WAS THIS A CRIMINAL
ACT.
ARE THERE SECRETS IN THERE ONE
LAST THING, BRIAN.
IN THE DOJ’S COMPLAINT AGAINST
JOHN BOLTON THEY REFLECT AT ONE
POINT HE DID RECEIVE CLEARANCE
FOR THE BOOK.
HE DID.
AND THEN A NEW TEAM CAME IN
HEADED BY BOB O’BRIEN, THE
CURRENT NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR AND THAT TEAM SAID
SHOULDN’T BE PUBLISHED GOT TO
GET THEM OUT.
STEVE: JUDGE, YOU KNOW FROM THE
FILING WHAT IT ALSO SAID WAS
BECAUSE MR. BOLTON CONTACTED THE
DEPARTMENT -- OR THE NSA AND
SAID OKAY, YOU ARE GOING TO SIGN
OFF ON THIS AND THEY SAID ON MAY
THE 7TH, THEY SAID WE WILL LET
YOU KNOW ON, I THINK, JUNE 19TH,
LAST FRIDAY.
BUT THE BOOKS HAD ALREADY BEEN
PUBLISHED.
SO, WHAT GOING FORWARD WHETHER
OR NOT THEY FIND LOOK FOR CRIMINAL LIABILITY, IS THIS
CRIMINAL LIABILITY, IS THIS
REALLY, YOU KNOW, ONCE PLAYED
OUT IN COURT?
>> PROBABLY NOT.
STEVE.
THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION.
EVERYBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO
TESTIFY IF THEY DO, INCLUDING
THE PEOPLE NO LONGER IN THE
NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL IN
DONALD TRUMP’S WHITE HOUSE WHO
AUTHORIZED THE PRINTING OF THE
BOOK SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND ON
WHICH JOHN BOLTON RELIED WHEN HE
TOLD HILLS PUBLISHER YOU CAN GO
AHEAD AND PRINT IT.
IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT
EMBARRASSING.
THE PRESIDENT KNOWS WHAT THESE
SECRETS ARE I DON’T, WE DON’T.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY’RE AND
HOW DAMAGING THEY MIGHT BE.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT MIGHT BE
WISE TO SIT ON ITS HANDS.
IT MIGHT BE UNWISE TO SIT ON ITS
HANDS.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT AND
SEE.
AINSLEY: JUDGE, THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE THE DIE HARD TRUMPERS, THE
LIBERALS WHO HATE HIM ARE NOT
GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM.
HE WILL VOTE HOW DOES THIS
EFFECT THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD IS
SOMEONE WHO HASN’T MADE UP THEIR
MIND YET?
>> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION.
THE PRESIDENT IS DOING A VERY
EFFECTIVE JOB, I THINK AS HE DID
WITH BRIAN YESTERDAY.
IN UNDERMINING JOHN BOLTON’S
CREDIBILITY.
IN FACT, I SAW SOME OLD
COLLISION OF AN INTERVIEW DID I
WITH JOHN BOLTON ON MY OLD
FREEDOM WATCH SHOW ON FOX BILLS
IN WHICH HE SAYS SOMETIMES
CERTAIN TRUTHS ARE SO STRONG YOU
HAVE TO LIE IN ORDER TO PROTECT
THEM.
JOHN WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
I SAID WOULD YOU LIE TO PROTECT
A TRUTH HE?
SAID YES, OF COURSE I WOULD.
I DON’T KNOW, AINSLEY, IF THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE REALLY GET INTO
THE WISE ON THAT I THINK THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL TAKE THE
BIG PICTURE ON DONALD TRUMP.
EITHER YOU LIKE HIM BECAUSE OF
WHAT HE IS DOING OR DON’T LIKE
HIM BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE DOES
IT.
BRIAN: JUDGE, I DON’T KNOW HOW
DID YOU IT.
THAT BACKGROUND YOUR HEAD IS
PERFECT BETWEEN YOUR LAMPS.
I DON’T KNOW.
>> EVERY MORNING SOMEBODY GETS
IN MY EAR AND SAYS MOVE A HALF
AN INCH THIS WAY.
MOVE A HALF AN INCH THAT WAY.
MOVE BACK, PLEASE.
I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL I’M BACK IN
THE STUDIO WITH YOU GUYS.
AINSLEY: I KNOW.
IT IS NICE TO BE BACK.