Your away day starts pretty much when you get up in the morning and 18 hours later you might get home.
It's not just the game.
It's more expensive when Sky do this to fans.
So if I go on public transport I can get trains for a lot cheaper
than I would have to do on the supporter bus.
I can get trains easily for £30 but with getting the bus I've got to pay £50.
It's just a nightmare.
The first match I went to was probably 1972
When I was young you would just decide, we'll go to an away game to day
and just turn up.
You know you didn't have to have tickets or things like that you could just turn up and go in.
But now you've got to think ahead all the time and sometimes quite a long time ahead
which you know, you sort of don't have the spontaneity you used to have.
- That's just going. - I've got ten.
Pick a card.
How much did they charge for the lot? Like what was it working out at?
It was about £200 for four of us.
We were about just over £60 each, something like that £63
Well you can't plan nothing more than like six weeks ahead can you, that's the problem.
There was a game last year where we booked to train for Middlesbrough
because they'd moved the game, then they left it on the Saturday
and then obviously they moved the Manchester derby to the Thursday night.
So we lost all the train fares that we booked. So we finished up driving.
And what they don't consider is that when you're driving home at three o'clock in the morning,
it's an issue, with people nodding off on the motorway.
Usually if it was a Saturday, we'd probably get the train to be honest,
because we wouldn't have to take time off uni or school.
And then we can do it in our own leisurely time.
Today's been a bit like, we need to be there at two o'clock.
Not that I'm bad mouthing the supporters bus they're a nice bunch and they do a good job,
but I'd much rather have a nice leisurely go up there on the train.
But unfortunately as Sky have changed it to a TV game we don't have that choice now
so we have to go on the bus.
Well for example I've got to take a day off tomorrow,
with getting back at maybe three or four o'clock in the morning
to Newcastle tomorrow.
So there's no way I can get myself in to school tomorrow
I'm at sixth form now so that might have implications on my life,
Following the loyalty point system you've got to do your long trips to build up your points
to be able to do your two hours on a Saturday to Burnley and stuff like that.
You've gotta follow Newcastle to Southampton, Brighton, London, games that aren't desirable.
It's just really profit driven and really corporate and it's nothing to do with the fans whatsoever.
There's not one decision made in recollection to the fans.
I've been brought up with three o'clock kick offs on a Saturday,
that's what your whole working week was geared towards.
Not an eight o'clock on a Monday or god knows what time on a Sunday afternoon.
Six hours from Macclesfield to Bournemouth, to the minute.
You know it's worth it just to be there and just spend three or four hours
with people who are equally as passionate to you, who have made the same journey as you.
Whether you win, lose, draw, they've got up at five o'clock this morning
they've come all the way down to the south coast, and they just don't care about anything else.
They just want to see their team. And that passion is what unites us all really.
It wouldn't entirely take me away from football but it might make me think twice
if for example got worse the more it came about, if the rescheduling happened more and more
we just wouldn't be able to go. We'd have to satisfy for home games
and the away games would probably become something of the past for us as a family.
I think they need to take in to consideration the fans a little bit more.
you know the fans with jobs, the fans with families
we like to make football to be a day out and go and see the game and plan ahead
but we're unable to do that, we're unable to book our tickets or arrange child care.
You're going to lose the whole passion of the fans, people are going to stop going to the away games
and they're not going to have the support behind them following
or if they do, it's certainly going to be very little and at a real high cost to the fans.
I'm done in.
It was good aside the result but I'm pretty tired now I just want to go to bed
it's half one in the morning and we've just got off the coach.
and now we're home, I'm really tired.