WELL.
WE'VE GOT A BIG SHOW AHEAD, SO
STAY WITH US.
WE KICK IT OFF WITH THIS, THE
U.S. RESTORING SANCTIONS ON RAN.
PRESIDENT TRUMP TWEETED THIS,
THE IRAN SANCTIONS HAVE BEEN
CAST, THE MOST BITING SANCTIONS
EVER IMPOSED AND NOVEMBER THEY
RATCHET UP TO ANOTHER LEVEL.
ANYONE DOING BUSINESS WITH IRAN
WILL NOT BE DOING BUSINESS WITH
THE UNITED STATES.
I'M ASKING FOR WORLD PEACE,
NOTHING LESS, SAYS THE
PRESIDENT.
TAKING EFFECT EARLY THIS
MORNING, THE FIRST SET OF STRICT
ECONOMIC SANCTIONS INCLUDE
SANCTIONS ON THE PURCHASE OF
ON THE COUNTRY'S AUTOMOTIVE
SECTOR.
JOINING US NOW IS FORMER FOREIGN
POLICY ADVISOR FOR GEORGE W.
BUSH, PAUL BON.
A VERY IMPORTANT IMPACT ON THE
GOVERNMENT OF IRAN AND ITS
RELATIONSHIP WITH ITS PEOPLE.
AVOIDED.
IT'S ONLY THE FIRST STEP AS YOU
MENTIONED.
IN NOVEMBER IT GETS MUCH WORSE.
THAT'S PART OF THE PRESIDENT'S
PLAN, HE WANTS TO AS HE DID WITH
NORTH KOREA SHOW I'M VERY REASON
NORTH KOREA SHOW I'M VERY REASOB
NORTH KOREA SHOW I'M VERY REASOE
NORTH KOREA SHOW I'M VERY REASO,
I'M WILLING TO TALK.
WE COULD HAVE A NEW DEAL IN THE
INTEREST OF THE UNITED STATES
AND NOT SOMETHING THAT THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION DID, WHICH IS TO
IT WILL BE YOU'RE THE PROBLEM
AND IF YOU WANT A CHANGE, THERE
ARE REWARDS FOR THAT, BUT IF YOU
DON'T THERE WILL BE A LOT OF
PAIN.
THE ADMINISTRATION KNOWS VERY
WELL THAT THE PRESSURE ON IRAN
IS FROM ITS OWN PEOPLE AND SO
THAT'S WHY THESE SANCTIONS ARE
GOING TO MATTER AND THAT'S WHY
THEY'RE DESPERATE TO AVOID THEM
AND HOPE EUROPE CAN SAVE THEM
BUT THEY CANNOT SAVE THEM.
>> ARE THESE SANCTIONS REALLY
GOING TO BRING IRAN TO THE
NOVEMBER WHEN THE SANCTIONS ON
OIL EXPORTS GO INTO EFFECT?
IS THE GOAL HERE TO NEGOTIATE OR
IS IT TO OVERTHROW THE REGIME?
>> IF I HAD TO BET, I WOULD SAY
THAT THE SANCTIONS NOW AND THE
ONES IN NOVEMBER WILL NOT WORK
BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT OF IRAN
PERSPECTIVE.
THEY'RE TOO MUCH IN A BUBBLE.
I EXPECT THIS TO GO ALL THE WAY
TO AN UNPLEASANT CONCLUSION, IF
NOT A VIOLENT ONE.
THEY'LL PROBABLY BRING A
REVOLUTION ON THEMSELVES BEFORE
WHAT THEY THINK IS COW TOWING.
SOME THINK THEY'LL DO WHAT THEY
HAVE DONE BEFORE AND SUFFER.
THAT WORKS WHEN YOU HAVE A
WE KNOW THE IRANIAN PEOPLE ARE
WILLING TO CHALLENGE THEM.
AND ITS ALLIES AND YOU HAVE THE
SAUDI GULF STATES OR THE SUNNI
GULF STATES THAT ARE NOT GOING
I THOUGHT THIS WAS REALLY
AND ENGAGEMENT HAVE SHIFTED
SUDDENLY SO TO THE REGIME CAN'T
BE REFORMED CAMP WHICH WE SHOULD
IT KIND OF DOVETAILS WITH WHAT
WE'VE HEARD WHEN MIKE POMPEO,
IRANIAN LEADERSHIP AS A BUNCH OF
HAD
THD
THEY ESSENTIALLY DEPRIVE THEIR
OWN PEOPLE.
>> HE'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THING IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IF YOU
LOOK AT THE FOUNDER.
THESE PEOPLE ARE RELIGIOUS
FANATICS.
THEY BELIEVE EXTREME THINGS
ABOUT THE WORLD, ABOUT
THEMSELVES, ABOUT WHAT THEY
CONSIDER THEIR ENEMIES.
THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN ANY
DIFFERENT.
THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN ANY
MODERATES.
THEY CANNOT HAVE ANY POWER IN
THAT COUNTRY.
THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE PUT FORWARD AS A
MODERATE SO THAT GULLIBLE
WESTERNERS WHO ARE DESPERATE TO
AVOID AGGRESSION OR VIOLENCE OR
WAR OF ANY KIND CAN HAVING TO
HANG ONTO.
THAT'S ALWAYS BE THE CASE HERE.
IT WILL BE THE CASE BECAUSE
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A
THERE IS A NEW REGIME.
>> HOW DO YOU THINK THE IRANIAN
OF THE WEST RESPOND?
>> I DON'T THINK THAT THEY CAN
AT THIS POINT.
I THINK THE EUROPEANS ARE GOING
TO GIVE INTO THE UNITED STATES
POSITION HERE BECAUSE THEY CAN
NOT AFFORD TO HAVE ALL OF THEIR
COMPANIES UNABLE TO DO BUSINESS
WITH THE UNITED STATES.
SO THE IRANIAN REGIME WILL BE
STUCK BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE
RESOURCES TO KEEP GOING FORWARD.
I'M NOT SAYING THEY WON'T TRY TO
MAKE PROGRESS ON THEIR NUCLEAR
PROGRAM BUT THEY WON'T BE ABLE
TO MAKE THAT MUCH.
THEY WILL NOT DO THE WISE THING
AND GO TO THE PRESIDENT AND SAY
WE NEED TO SAVE FACE AS WE FIND
AN ACCOMMODATION WITH YOU.
THAT'S WHAT THE PRESIDENT WANTS.
I MEAN, PEOPLE CAN MOCK THE
IT'S CLEAR THE PATTERN IS I'LL
I DON'T THINK THE IRANIAN REGIME
WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE
THE WHOLE REASON FOR EXISTENCE
AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND
THAT WHEN WE WERE DOING THE IRAN
THOUGHT THE PROBLEMS IN THE
WORLD WERE CAUSED BY THE UNITED
STATES AND ISRAEL AS OPPOSED TO
BEING CAUSED BY THE BAD PEOPLE
THAT EXIST.
MARIA: YOU MENTIONED CHINA.
THERE SEEMS TO BE ESCALATING
TRADE TENSIONS.
TALKS UNTIL AFTER SEPTEMBER AT
THIS POINT BUT CHINESE STATE
MEDIA THIS MORNING IS SLAMMING
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
A NEWSPAPER HEADLINE DESCRIBES
HIS TRADE POLICIES AS WISHFUL
THINKING.
THIS COMING AS BEIJING THREATENS
GOODS.
THAT WAS LAST FRIDAY, PAUL.
YOUR RESPONSE HERE AND WHERE DO
U.S. ON TRADE?
>> I SPEAK AS A LIFE-LONG FREE
TRADER.
I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE 20
YEARS AGO THAT INSISTED THAT
CHINA JOINING THE WTO AND BEING
WRONG.
THERE ARE THE ENTRENCHED CHINESE
LEADERSHIP, THE PARTY LEADERSHIP
IS MUCH MORE OF A MAFIA THAT
MAKES A LOT OF MONEY IN VARIOUS
THERE'S A STRONG IDEOLOGY THAT
THEY BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE
LEADING IN THEIR PART OF THE
WORLD, IF NOT THE ENTIRE WORLD
THEY WANT TO DO AS THE RIGHTFUL
RULERS.
WE'RE PLAYING A GAME OF CHICKEN.
I GET IT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PRESIDENT
IS TRYING TO DO BECAUSE THE
PRESIDENT RECOGNIZES TWO THINGS.
ONE, THE POWER OF THE UNITED
STATES IS WHAT MATTERS IF YOU
WANT TO GET YOUR WAY AND HE'S
IMPROVED THE ECONOMY AND USING
TAKE THEM A LONG TIME TO
UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT
KIND OF PRESIDENCY AND THEY'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO FIND AN
ACCOMMODATION.
I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO FIND A
PRESIDENT AND HIS FOREIGN POLICY
LEADERS WILLING TO MAKE THE
WILLING TO MAKE A NEW KIND OF
ARRANGEMENT.
I THINK WE WILL GET THERE BUT
WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE
PAIN ALONG THE WAY.
MARIA: WE'LL SEE IF THEY STOP
THE STEALING, RIGHT, THAT'S THE
MOST IMPORTANT THING WHEN IT
COMMENTS TO CHINA.
PAUL, GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS