>>> PRESIDENT TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN RECEIVED A BIG BILL LAST WEEK.
THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL REPORTS
THAT THE CITY CEPT AN INVOICE
FOR MORE THAN $200,000 FOLLOWING
HIS RALLY IN THE AREA LAST
MONTH.
MONTH. THAT INCLUDES CHARGES FOR THINGS
LIKE POLICE OVERTIME AND
BARRICADES.
BARRICADES. BUT ALBUQUERQUE IS FAR FROM THE
OMCITY WHERE THE PRESIDENT HAS
AN OUTSTANDING BILL.
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN OWES NEARLY
$575,000 IN EL PASO, TEXAS AND
MORE THAN $80,000 IN TUCSON,
ARIZONA.
ARIZONA. THAT TAB HAS BEEN LINGERING
UNPAID SINCE MARCH 2016.
THE CITY OF SPOCANE, WASHINGTON,
HAS ALSO BEEN TRYING TO COLLECT
ABOUT $65,000 SINCE EARLY 2016.
ARIZONA HAS BEEN WAITING FOR
NEARLY THE SAME AMOUNT SINCE
LATE LAST YEAR.
WISCONSIN SAYS TRUMP OWES THEM
OVER $47,000.
OVER $47,000. HE OWES $43,000 TO BILLINGS,
MONTANA.
MONTANA. 35
35 $35,000 TO PENNSYLVANIA.
MORE THAN $9,000 TO GREEN BAY,
WISCONSIN.
WISCONSIN. AND ABOUT $8,000 TO BURLINGTON,
VERMONT.
VERMONT. AND THEN THERE’S OVER HALF A
MILLION DOLLARS THE PRESIDENT
OWES MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA, FOR
HIS RALLY EARLIER THIS MONTH.
AND WE CANNOT FORGET WASHINGTON,
D.C., NOT A CITY BUT STIFFED BY
THE PRESIDENT NONETHELESS.
TRUMP OWES THE DISTRICT A
WHOPPING $9 MILLION IN UNPAID
FEES FOR THE INAUGURATION AND
THIS SUMMER’S JULY 4th SALUTE TO
AMERICA.
AMERICA. JOINING ME NOW FOR MORE ON ALL
THE PRESIDENT’S DEBT IS DAVE
LEVINETHOL, WHICH PUBLISHED AN
EXHAUSTIVE STUDY THIS YEAR ON
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN’S REFUSAL TO
PAY THE EXHAUSTING BILLS.
I THINK EVERY CITY THAT HEARS
TRUMP IS COMING HAVE GOT TO BE
AWARE OF THIS BECAUSE POLICING
AND SECURITY HAS LONG BEEN
ISSUES --
ISSUES -- >> AND THESE ARE RALLIES,
TYPICALLY, 10, 15, 20,000
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. >> AND THEY CAN’T NOT DO IT.
>> NOT ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE IN
THE EVENT ITSELF BUT FOR OUR
COMMUNITY WRIT LARGE, SO BY THE
SAME TOKEN, TOO, I TALKED TO THE
MAYOR OF MINNEAPOLIS AND HE MADE
IT VERY CLEAR HE WANTED TO BE
MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH THE
PRESIDENT AND I TALKED TO THE
MAYOR OF EL PASO, TEXAS WHO IS A
REPUBLICAN AND HE SAID, HEY,
LOOK, THIS IS AN ISSUE ABOUT OUR
MUNICIPALITIES BEING ABLE TO PAY
THEIR BILLS.
THEIR BILLS. AND IF THE PRESIDENT IS COMING
TO TOWN IN AN A CAMPAIGN EVENT
RAISING MONEY HIMSELF THE LEAST
HE CAN DO, HIS CAMPAIGN CAN DO
IN THEIR WORDS DO THE HONORABLE
THING AND HELP OFFSET THE
OFTENTIMES EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT
OF POLICE PROTECTION THAT HAS TO
BE ALLOCATED TO AN EVENT --
>> THE CAMPAIGN IS RECORD
BREAKING IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
ITS ABLE TO RAISE.
IT DOES WELL, THEY’VE GOT MONEY.
WHAT’S THEIR ARGUMENT?
>> THEY REALLY DON’T HAVE AN
ARGUMENT EXCEPT TO SAY THIS IS
NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY CONTROL,
THAT THE U.S. SECRET SERVICE,
AND THEY ARE CORRECT IN THIS IS
THE ONE THAT WILL SAY
MINNEAPOLIS, EL PASO, LEBANON,
OHIO, CHICAGO, NEW YORK,
WHATEVER IT IS YOU’RE
RESPONSIBLE FOR WORK WITH THE
SECRET SERVICE MUNICIPALITY AND
PUTTING TOGETHER A SECURITY
PLAN.
PLAN. THAT’S ALL FINE AND GOOD BUT THE
PROBLEM IS IN THE WAY
CONGRESS -- CONGRESS HAS NOT
ALLOCATED MONEY TO THE U.S.
SECRET SERVICE TO REIMBURSE ANY
OF THESE CITIES WE’VE JUST
TALKED ABOUT.
TALKED ABOUT. EFFECTIVELY IF THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN ISN’T WILLING TO
VOLUNTEER CASH AND PAY BILLS --
>> ARE THEY NOT A OBLIGED TO?
SO THE SECRET SERVICE IS OBLIGED
TO PROVIDE SECURITY, BUT WHEN
IT’S A CAMPAIGN EVENT THEY HAVE
THE PRIVILEGE OF WALKING BACK
AND SAYING THAT’S NOT OUR
CHANNEL.
CHANNEL. >> AND IN MUNICIPALITIES THEY’RE
GOING TO PROVIDE THAT POLICE
PROTECTION ANYWAYS.
PROTECTION ANYWAYS. SO IF THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN ISN’T
WILLING TO PAY THE BILLS THE
MUNICIPALITIES SEND IT, THEY’RE
KIND OF LEFT HOLDING THE BAG.
>> TO WHAT DEGREE IS THE
MUNICIPALITY ABLE TO SORT OF
CARVE OUT THE PART THAT WAS PAID
FOR BECAUSE THERE WAS THIS BIG
EVENT VERSUS THINGS THEY WOULD
NORMALLY HAVE TO DO?
>> IF IT’S A CITY OWNED FACILITY
AND WE’VE SEEN THIS WITH CERTAIN
CITIES, NASHVILLE WOULD BE A
GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE DONALD TRUMP
WOULD COME TO A CITY OWNED
FACILITY, AND YOU’RE GOING TO
HAVE TO SIGN THIS CONTRACT AND
PAY YOUR BILLS UP FRONT.
IF IT’S NOT A CITY OWN FACILITY
OR A CITY OWN FACILITY MANAGED
BY A THIRD PARTY WHICH IS OFTEN
THE CASE, THEY HAVE A LOT LESS
LEVERAGE.
LEVERAGE. AND THAT’S WHERE IT GETS STICKY
AND THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE IN
THIS CATCH-22 WHERE THEY’VE GOT
TO PROVIDE SECURITY BUT THEY MAY
NOT GET PAID FOR THE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN OVERTIME
AND POLICE COST.
FOR A PRESIDENT WHO SAYS I LIKE
LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT HE DOESN’T
LOVE THEM ENOUGH TO HAVE HIS
CAMPAIGN PAY THEM OFF.
>> WHAT’S THE CONSEQUENCES?
THESE CITIES -- THEY DON’T HAVE
THE MONEY.
THE MONEY. I WOULD IMAGINE TO A LOT OF
THESE CITIES IT’S A BIG DEAL.
>> IT IS A BIG DEAL AND IT MAY
NOT BE A BIG DEAL FOR A CITY OF
A MILLION PEOPLE AS MUCH AS IT
WOULD BE FOR A GREEN BAY,
WISCONSIN, OR A CITY THAT ONLY
HAS 20,000 PEOPLE.
THAT COULD PAY A LOT OF OFFICERS
SALARIES WHEN YOU ADD THAT UP.
THERE’S A LOT IN THEIR BUDGET.
SURE THAT GOES WITH A LIMELIGHT
EVENT, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN,
TOO, IT IS A SITUATION WHERE
IT’S A CITY BUDGET.
YOU HAVE TO PAY IT AND IF YOU
DON’T HAVE MONEY COMING IN AND A
LOT COMING OUT, YOU COULD BE IN
A PICKLE.
A PICKLE. >> LIKE MANY THINGS IN THIS
ADMINISTRATION SOME OF IT
SHOULDN’T COME AS A SURPRISE.
THERE HAS BEEN LONG BEFORE
DONALD TRUMP BECAME ELECTED
PRESIDENT, THIS STORY HAS
FOLLOWED HIM ALONG FOR YEARS,
EXCEPT SERVICES DO NOT PAY.
>> WITHOUT QUESTION AND HE HAS
NOT CHANGED.
NOT CHANGED. WHAT WE’VE ASKED THE DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATES WHAT ARE YOU DWROEG
TO DO IF YOU’RE IN A SIMILAR
SITUATION?
SITUATION? IT’S A MIXED BAG BUT YOU
DEFINITELY HAVE SOME CANDIDATES
ON THAT SIDE, WHETHER IT’S BETO
O’ROURKE, CORY BOOKER, KAMALA
HARRIS WHO HAVE EFFECTIVELY
SAID, HEY, WE ARE GOING TO PAY
BILLS.
BILLS. WE’RE GOING TO HONOR THEM.
IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR CITY
HALL OR ANY GIVEN CITY THAT WE
HAVE A BIG RALLY IN SENDS US A
BILL, WE’RE GOING TO PAY IT AND
WE’VE GOT DOCUMENTATION THAT
SHOWS MANY HAVE.