ALL RIGHT?
THAT’S MY RISK THIS EVENING.
NOW WE’RE GOING TO GO BACK TO
THESE WOKE BUDGET TOPICS IN THE
NEXT SEGMENT.
WE’LL HAVE ALABAMA SENATOR TOMMY
TUBBERVILLE, BUT FIRST UP
WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER LOOK AT
AFGHANISTAN.
WE NEED TO TACKLE THE
CATASTROPHIC AFGHANISTAN
WITHDRAWAL.
THIS TIME, THIS EVENING FROM THE
CHINA ANGLE, AN IMPORTANT
CHINA ANGLE SO NOT SURPRISINGLY,
AMERICA’S AFGHAN DEFEAT IS
BRINGING JOY TO THE HEARTS OF
PRESIDENT XI AND HIS COMMUNISTS.
IN PARTICULAR, RED CHINA HAS ITS
EYE ON TAIWAN, A GREAT AMERICAN
ALLIE, AND THE GREAT
SEMICONDUCTOR CENTER OF THE
WHOLE WORLD.
RED CHINA WOULD LOVE TO DO TO
TAIWAN, JUST WHAT IT DID TO HONG
KONG.
THAT IS DESTROY THEIR FREEDOMS,
AND TAKE OVER THEIR COUNTRY, AND
THEIR SYSTEM.
BY THE WAY, TAKE OVER THEIR
MARKET SYSTEM.
SO, WE BRING IN MY GREAT FRIEND
AND FORMER TRUMP COLLEAGUE
DISTINGUISHED NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR ROBERT O’BRIEN THE BEST
OF THE BEST.
MR. O’BRIEN ALONG WITH ALEX GREY
, PUBLISHED A POWER POWERFUL
OP-ED IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
A FEW DAYS AGO.
HOW TO DEERE TIER CHINA FROM
INVADING TAIWAN, ROBERT WELCOME
BACK, SIR, AND HOW DO WE DETER
CHINA FROM TAKING OVER TAIWAN?
BECAUSE THE CHINESE ARE PROBABLY
LICKING THEIR CHOPS AFTER THIS
AFGHAN DEBACLE.
>> WELL THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION
, LARRY BUT THE ONE
THING I WANT TO SAY IS BEING
BACK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR I
CAN’T TELL YOU AFTER LISTENING
TO YOUR MONOLOGUE HOW BADLY I
WISH YOU WERE RUNNING THE
ECONOMY LIKE YOU WERE IN THE
WHITE HOUSE LAST COUPLE OF
YEARS.
WE NEED FREE MEN AND WOMEN AND
FREE MARKETS BACK, AND LOOK, IT
TIES INTO NATIONAL SECURITY
BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, AND YOU
PREACH, LARRY, ECONOMIC SECURITY
IS NATIONAL SECURITY, SO WHEN
WE’RE PROSPEROUS AND WE’VE GOT A
THRIVING RECOVERY, WHEN WE’RE
DOING WELL, WE CAN AFFORD TO
EQUIP THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR
ARMED FORCES WITH THE BEST
PLATFORMS AND DETER THE CHINESE,
AND KEEP THEM FROM DOING THE
MALIGN ACTIVITY WHETHER IT’S
WITH TAIWAN OR ANYONE ELSE, SO
KUDOS ON THAT MONOLOGUE IT WAS
JUST TERRIFIC.
LARRY: THANK YOU, ROBERT.
IT’S A GREAT POINT, BY THE WAY.
I LEARNED IT YEARS AGO FROM
REAGAN.
STRONG AT HOME, STRONG ABROAD,
WEAK AT HOME, WEAK ABROAD, SO
YOU’RE QUITE RIGHT.
NOW, YOU WANT TO PUT SOME
SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES INTO
TAIWAN AND RIGHTLY SO, WE GOT TO
STOP THE CHINESE THERE, AND YOU
TALK ABOUT A PORCUPINE STRATEGY.
CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THAT?
>> SURE, THE PEOPLE OF TAIWAN
WATCH WHAT HAPPENED IN HONG KONG
AND WHAT HAPPENED IN HONG KONG
WHEN PRESIDENT XI AND HIS
COMMUNIST COLLEAGUES
EXTINGUISHED DEMOCRACY THERE, IT
GAVE LIGHT TO THE ONE COUNTRY
TWO SYSTEMS IDEA THAT YOU COULD
SOMEHOW MAINTAIN YOUR FREEDOMS
BUT BE PART OF COMMUNIST CHINA,
AND THE PEOPLE OF TAIWAN JUST
DON’T WANT IT.
THEY’RE NEVER GOING TO VOTE FOR
IT, THEY’RE NEVER GOING TO
VOLUNTARILY BECOME PART OF THE
COMMUNIST PARTY OF CHINA AND
THEIR EMPIRE, AND SO WHAT WE’VE
SAID IS AND WE SHOULDN’T EVEN
PAY FOR IT, THE TAIWANESE ARE
PROFITABLE AND THEY’RE THRIFTY
AND THEY WORK HARD WITH A GREAT
ECONOMY.
THEY CAN PAY FOR IT THEMSELVES
BUT THEY NEED TO TURN THEMSELVES
INTO A PORCUPINE.
THEY NEED TO HAVE A CAPABILITY
AND HAVE ANTI-SHIP MISSILES,
THEY NEED TO START GUN CLUBS
LIKE HAS HAPPENED IN THE EASTERN
EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, KIND OF A
TERRITORIAL RESERVE, ITS
HAPPENED IN THE BALTIC STATES
AND IN POLITICO LAND AND GET GUN
OWNERSHIP SO THAT IF THE CHINESE
BELIEVE THEY CAN EVADE TAIWAN,
EVEN IF THEY GET PAST THE
BEACHES THEY WILL KNOW IN
EVERY TOWN AND VILLAGE AND CITY
THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY WITH AN
AK-47 SHOOTING AT THEM.
WE NEED TO GET STINGER MISSILES
TO NEGATE THE ADVANTAGE OF THE
CHINESE HELICOPTERS AND
PREVENT AN AIRBORNE HELICOPTER
ASSAULT ON THE ISLAND SO THOSE
ARE THE THINGS THE
TAIWANESE NEED TO DO.
THEY WITH PAY FOR IT, AND IT’S
GOOD FOR TAIWAN AND AMERICAN
DEFENSE CONTRACTORS THAT CAN
SUPPLY THE GOODS, AND WHEN THEY
ORDER THEM, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THEY ARE AT THE TOP OF THE
CUSTOMER LIST BECAUSE A LOT
OF THESE ITEMS ARE POPULAR.
WE NEED TO MOVE THEM UP ON THE
CUSTOMER LIST TO MAKE SURE
THEY GET DELIVERED TO TAIWAN
SOON SO THEY CAN DETER CHINA
FROM BULLYING THEM AND MAINTAIN
THEIR DEMOCRACY WHICH IS A
TREMENDOUS, THE TRANSFORMATION
OF TAIWAN FROM AN AUTHORITARIAN
COUNTRY 30, 40 YEARS AGO, TO
THIS VIBRANT DEMOCRACY IS ONE OF
THE GREAT SUCCESS STORIES FOR
PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN
FREEDOM AROUND THE WORLD.
LARRY: IN YOUR OP-ED YOU TALK
ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO END
THE NARRATIVE OF DECLINE, WHICH
COMMUNIST CHINA IS TRYING TO
SPREAD.
THE NARRATIVE OF DECLINE.
I CAN’T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE
IMPORTANT THAN THAT.
>> WELL, YOU’RE RIGHT, AND WHAT
HAPPENED IS AFTER THE
CATASTROPHIC WITHDRAWAL FROM
AFGHANISTAN, AND WE LEFT A LOT
OF AMERICAN GREEN CARD HOLDERS
AND CITIZENS AND OUR FRIENDS
BEHIND, THE CHINESE TOOK THAT
USING THE GLOBAL TIMES WHICH IS
THEIR COMMUNIST PARTY MOUTHPIECE
, AND THEY WROTE AN
OP-ED TO THE PEOPLE OF THAIPA
I.
THEY SAID LOOK AT KABUL, THIS IS
YOUR FUTURE AND WHAT IT’LL LOOK
LIKE AFTER WE INVADE AND THE
AMERICANS ABANDON YOU SO
WE’VE GOT TO REASSERT AMERICAN
LEADERSHIP AND SHOW OUR FRIENDS
AND OUR ALLIES THAT WE’RE WITH
THEM, BUT ALSO, DETER OUR FOES,
THE RUSSIANS, CHINESE, IRANIANS
AND THAT’S GOING TO TAKE REAL
LEADERSHIP FROM THIS COUNTRY AND
WE CAN DO IT.
WE’RE SELLING
THE M-1, A-1 TANKS TO TAIWAN.
WE’RE UPGRADING THEIR F-16 FLEET
THOSE ARE IMPORTANT, BUT TAIWAN
ALSO NEEDS TO DO SOME OF THE
ANTI-ACCESS AREA DENIAL-TYPE
WEAPON SYSTEMS, THE CHINESE
THEMSELVES HAVE EMPLOYED TO MAKE
SURE THAT THAT PORCUPINE DOESN’T
GET EATEN BY THE LION, THE
PROVERBIAL LION.
LARRY: I LOVE THE PORCUPINE
METAPHOR.
TWO MORE QUICK ONES, ROBERT
O’BRIEN.
ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THIS SELLING
AUSTRALIA, THE NUCLEAR SUBMARINE
S IN THE PAPERS?
I GUESS THE FRENCH WERE A LITTLE
OUT OF SORTS ABOUT THAT, BLAH
BLAH BLAH.
I DON’T KNOW WE CAN MAKE IT UP
TO THEM OR MAYBE WE WON’T BUT
SELLING NUCLEAR SUBS TO
AUSTRALIA, YOU FAVOR THAT?
>> YEAH, LOOK.
IT’S A GREAT IDEA AND WE’VE GOT
OVERLAPPING TREATY RELATIONSHIPS
THAT GO BACK, MANY MANY YEARS
WITH WHAT THE AUSTRALIANS AND
THE BRITS AND SO THAT YOU NIGHT
ED FRONT OF AUSTRALIA, THE
UK, AND U.S. STANDING UP TO
THE CHINESE AND THE END O
PACIFIC AND GIVING THE
AUSTRALIANS THE BEST WEAPONS
SYSTEMS THEY CAN, THEY NEED SO
THEY CAN DEPLOY THEM AND PROTECT
THEMSELVES BUT ALSO WORK IN
CONCERT WITH US TO PROTECT
DEMOCRACIES IN THE REGION.
IT’S VERY IMPORTANT.
I WILL SAY SOMETHING THOUGH,
REMEMBER, YOU RECALL THE STORIES
OF AMERICA’S GOING TO BE BACK
DIPLOMATICALLY AND GET WELL WITH
OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES?
I JUST SAW THAT MY FRIEND AND
YOUR FRIEND THE FRENCH
AMBASSADOR IS BEING WITHDRAWN TO
PARIS AND THE FRENCH AREN’T
HAPPY BECAUSE WE DID THIS DEAL
WITHOUT TALKING TO THEM AND
FRANCE IS AN IMPORTANT PARTNER,
THEY WERE OUR FIRST ALLIE, WE
WORK WITH THEM IN AFRICA, THEY
ARE A CRITICAL ALLIE IN THE
INDO-PACIFIC AND YOU HAVE
FRENCH POLYNEIA, AND WE NEED
FRANCE ON SIDE WITH US WHETHER
IT’S TO CHALLENGE THE CHINESE
WITH HUAWEI AND THEIR 5G PLANS,
TO BE WITH US IN THE
INDO-PACIFIC, SO HOW THIS
HAPPENED WITHOUT TRYING TO
AT LEAST SMOOTH THINGS OVER AND
GET ALONG WITH OUR ALLIE FRANCE
IS A LITTLE ASTONISHING, AND IT
KIND OF, AS YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT
TRUMP GOTTA LONG VERY WELL, WITH
PRESIDENT MACRON AND PRIME
MINISTER JOHNSON, IT WASN’T AN
EITHER/OR SITUATION, WE GOT
ALONG WITH EVERYBODY SO I
HOPE WE’RE GOING TO MAKE SOME
AMENDS WITH THE FRENCH BECAUSE
THEY ARE A BIG IMPORTANT COUNTRY
AND THEY WERE OUR FIRST ALLIE
AND THEY ARE A DEMOCRACY AND WE
NEED THEIR HELP IN THE FIGHT
AGAINST CHINA AS WELL.
LARRY: ACTUALLY, YOU’RE RIGHT.
EVEN AT MY LOW LEVEL, I LOVE HIM
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER.
STILL THE BEST REALLY THE BEST
KITCHEN, THE BEST MEAL ON
AMBASSADORS ROW.
ROBERT O’BRIEN ONE LAST QUESTION
WHAT YOUR THOUGHT IS YOU WERE
THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR
WHEN THIS GENERAL MILLEY STUFF,
WHEN HE WAS, NOW THEY ARE SAYING
THIS WAS JUST NORMAL DISCUSSIONS
WITH HIS CHINESE GENERAL
COUNTERPART.
DID HE TELL YOU ABOUT THIS?
DID YOU KNOW THAT MILLEY WAS
DOING THAT?
DO YOU HAVE A THOUGHT ON THAT?
>> YOU KNOW, LOOK.
GENERAL MILLEY I THINK IS A
PATRIOT BUT I LEARNED ABOUT
THESE CALLS OVER THE LAST COUPLE
DAYS FROM THE WOODWARD BOOK.
IT CAME FROM BOB WOODWARD SO I
DON’T KNOW IF WE SHOULD GIVE IT
CREDIT OR NOT.
GENERAL MILLEY SAID HE’S TELLING
HIS SIDE OF THE STORY TO
CONGRESS IN A COUPLE WEEKS AND
WE’LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE
GENERAL HAS TO SAY TO THE
CONGRESS AND SEE HOW IT PLAYS
OUT.
I WANT TO RESERVE JUDGMENT UNTIL
WE HEAR WHAT HAPPENED.
LARRY: FAIR ENOUGH.
I HAVE TOLD THE STORY ON AIR AND
ELSEWHERE, WHEN HE WAS SWEARING
IN, I GUESS IT WAS YOUR LAW
PARTNER’S DAUGHTER, AND WHAT A
GREAT PATRIOTIC SPEECH HE GAVE,
WE WERE IN THE ROOSEVELT ROOM.
I JUST HAPPENED TO WANDER IN
LOOKING FOR YOU SO THIS MILLEY
STORY IS VERY DISILLUSIONING TO
ME.
I HOPE THERE’S SOMETHING ON HIS
SIDE, BUT IT’S JUST VERY DIS
ILLUSIONING.
ANYWAY, ROBERT O’BRIEN WE
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH, GREAT