AND HE UNDERSTANDS THE ELECTORAL
MAP BETTER THAN ANYONE IN THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
JAMES, YOU KNOW THE TRICKLE-DOWN
EFFECT, WHEN ONE COUNTY GOES ONE
WAY, WHAT ARE YOU KEEPING AN EYE
ON, AS FAR AS WHERE THIS
PRESIDENTIAL RACE COULD GO?
WE’RE SITTING HERE WAITING FOR
THE NUMBERS.
>> RIGHT.
>> READ THEM FOR US.
>> RIGHT.
PENNSYLVANIA IS GOING TO BE
FINE.
BIDEN’S GOING TO WIN MORE THAN
100,000 VOTES.
IN GEORGIA RIGHT NOW, I THINK
THEY HAVE A COUNT IN BY NOON AND
BIDEN SEEMS TO BE OPTIMISTIC.
I’LL BE WATCHING IT CLOSELY.
ARIZONA IS DONE.
NEVADA IS DONE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS IS
NOT GOING TO BE A PARTICULARLY
CLOSE ELECTION.
BIDE LISTEN WIN THE POPULAR VOTE
BY MORE THAN BUSH IN ’04, OWE BA
OBAMA IN 2012, PROBABLY END ONE
273 ELECTORAL VOTES.
BUSH HAD 286.
THE POPULAR VOTE WILL KEEP GOING
UP, GOING TO KEEP GOING UP.
I KNOW IT’S BEEN NERVE-RACKING
FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT IT’S NOT
THAT CLOSE.
IT REALLY ISN’T.
JOE BIDEN IS GOING TO BE THE
NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
IT’S THAT SIMPLE AND I THINK
GOVERNOR RIDGE MAKES A GOOD
POINT.
THE PEOPLE COUNTING THE BALLOTS
ARE HEROIC, IT’S NOT AN EASY
JOB.
>> WE HAVEN’T OFFICIALLY CALLED
ANY OF THE STATES.
>> RIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND.
>> ARIZONA, NEVADA,
PENNSYLVANIA, GEORGIA, DONE,
DONE.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING?
>> I PROBABLY TALKED TO 50
PEOPLE A DAY, EVERY 15 MINUTES I
GET WHAT’S OUTSTANDING IN
GEORGIA, WHAT COUNTY IS IT FROM.
I CAN LOOK AT ARIZONA, BUT THEY
HAVE PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW THIS.
I UNDERSTAND THE NETWORK HAS TO
BE EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS.
I DON’T SPEAK FOR OUR MSNBC,
ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THERE IS INFORMATION OUT
THERE THAT PEOPLE KNOW.
THE AP, WHICH I DON’T KNOW HAS
EVER MISSED A CALL HAS ALREADY
CALLED ARIZONA FOR THE VICE
PRESIDENT.
THEY MIGHT BE DIFFERENT, MIGHT
BE MORE CAUTIOUS BUT I’M NOT AT
ALL WORRIED ABOUT PENNSYLVANIA.
PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THE VOTES ARE
COMING IN FROM, THEY CAN
ESTIMATE TO A HIGH DEGREE OF
RELIABILITY WHAT THE PERCENTAGES
ARE GOING TO BE.
WE KNOW WHERE THE GEORGIA VOTES
ARE COMING IN, A LITTLE BIT OF
DISPUTE, MIGHT BE BETTER FOR THE
DEMOCRATS THAN SOME PEOPLE
THINK, CERTAINLY NO WORSE.
IT’S GOING TO BE TIGHT BUT I
FEEL PRETTY GOOD.
OTHER THING IS, WE DON’T --
ALASKA IS NOT DONE.
THEY HAVE A GAZILLIONON ABSENTEE
BALLOTS TO COUNT.
ALASKA IS ONLY 50% OR SOMETHING
THAT ARE IN, AND ALL OF THESE,
MOST OF THESE BALLOTS ARE COMING
IN FROM RURAL ALASKA, HEAVILY
DEMOCRATIC.
THEY HAD A GOOD PROGRAM TO GET
THESE BALLOTS IN.
THERE’S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON
THAT OUR VIEWERS NEED TO KNOW
ABOUT.
I’M NOT SAYING WE’RE GOING TO
WIN ALASKA, BUT SOMEBODY BETTER
TAKE A LOOK AT WHO IS GOING OUT
THERE.
NEXT TUESDAY THEY’RE GOING TO
START COUNTING, AND THEY HAVE TO
MAKE UP A LOT OF GROUND.
WHETHER THEY MAKE UP ENOUGH,
JOHN.
>> I’M SURE THERE’S A FEW LESS
THAN A GAZILLION BALANCE LOTS
OUT
BALLOTS OUT THERE.
>> 130,000.
>> YOU SAY TAKING BACK THE
SENATE, WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?
>> THERE’S GOING TO BE A RUNOFF
IN GEORGIA. I’M PRETTY SURE PURDUE WILL NOT
I’M PRETTY SURE PURDUE WILL NOT
HIT THE FLESH HOLD.THRESHOLD.
TWO SENATE SEATS IN GEORGIA, AND
THE ALASKA RACE IS NOT OVER.
I DON’T KNOW THE PROBABILITY
ODDS BUT IT IS DEFINITELY NOT
OVER.
THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN WIN ON
ELECTION IS GET IN THE ELECTION,
AND RIGHT NOW, THEY THINK THEY
HAVE A CHANCE TO HOLD PURDUE
UNDER 50%.
THAT’S JUST A FACT.
WE KNOW THERE’S GOING TO BE ONE
RUNOFF IN GEORGIA IN JANUARY.
THERE COULD BE TWO AND ALASKA
SENATE SEAT IS STILL TO BE
DECIDED.
>> IF WE DO HAVE A DIVIDED
GOVERNMENT, WHAT WILL THAT MEAN
FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS?
LEADER McCONNELL’S SIGNATURE WAS
BLOCKING OBAMA FOR EIGHT YEARS.
JOE BIDEN SEEMS TO THINK HE’LL
BE ABLE TO REACH ACROSS THE
AISLE AND WORK WITH HIM.
ANY CHANCE?
>> FIRST OF ALL IT’S NOT A GIVEN
IT WILL BE FOUR YEARS.
THE REPUBLICANS HAVE A MAP IN
2022.
MAYBE IT’S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT
THE FIRST TWO YEARS BUT WE’VE
HAD DIVIDED GOVERNMENT BEFORE
AND THE REPUBLICANS AND THE
SENATE NEED THINGS THAT ONLY THE
PRESIDENT CAN GIVE THEM AND THE
PRESIDENT’S GOING TO, YOU KNOW,
NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE
REPUBLICANS CAN GIVE THEM.
THAT’S THE WAY DEMOCRACY WORKS
BUT IT IS NOT A GIVEN THAT THE
REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO CONTROL
THE SENATE.
IT IS LIKELY, I ADMIT THAT BUT
IT IS NOT A GIVEN AND IT’S
CERTAINLY NOT A GIVEN THAT
THEY’RE GOING TO CONTROL THE
SENATE FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LOOK AHEAD AND
SEE WHAT THAT 2022 SENATE MAP
LOOKS LIKE, THEY CAN SEE THEY
HAVE A LOT OF REALLY VULNERABLE
PEOPLE, STATES ALSO.
SO I DON’T BUY IT THEY’RE GOING
TO CONTROL THE SENATE.
I THINK IT IS LIKELY.
I WOULDN’T BET IT.
GO AHEAD.
SORRY.
APOLOGIZE.
>> JAMES, I WISH WE HAD MORE
TIME.
WAIT, I HAVE TO ASK YOU, WHERE
DOES THIS LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY AND TRUMP SUPPORTERS, HIS
MILLIONS OF SUPPORTERS IF HE LOSES?
>> YOU KNOW, TRUMP IS BEATEN.
’S GOING
HE IS GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT
WHEN THE INEVITABLE COMES, HE
COULDN’T WIN.
HE GOT BEAT.
HE IS GOING TO SUFFER FROM A
FOUR TO FIVE-POINT LOSS IN THE
ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
GO TO THE DAVID WASSERMAN’S
SPREADSHEET, COUNTED IN 2016 TO
EARLY DECEMBER, AND BALLOTS COME
IN AND BALLOTS COMING IN ARE
GOING TO OVERWHELMINGLY FAVOR
THE DEMOCRATS.
THIS ELECTION IS NOT GOING TO BE