>> Remember Adam was there. Remember Adam came there then Eve came. So
somebody had started out. So that means it had to be a God. Because there's just some
bomb blew up and it started out. >> So that is Herschel Walker
candidate for US Senate in Georgia backed by Trump as we'll get into.
Has a very good chance of winning. Talking more theology there than government or politics. But he
had even more to say about evolution in this clip. >> And I'll tell you something else I heard
and I think about this because at one time science said man came from apes, did it not?
>> Every time I read or hear that I think to myself you just
didn't read the same bible. I did. >> Well this was interesting though.
If that is true why are there still apes? Right? Think about it.
>> You know now you're getting too smart. >> No no no no think about this.
We have an evolution that is we've gotten so intelligent that if that is true why
there still apes and then the conception of a baby, let me tell you science can't do that.
>> They're still trying to do it. >> But it can't because there had to be a God.
>> There are a lot of problems with every part of that. I do wanna be clear
though. If if any of those claims struck you as something that would blow your mind
something that would change the way that you do. You view the world. I wanna be very clear.
Every single claim that was made by their by Herschel Walker has been
made ad nauseam. It didn't make sense. The first time people postulated it,
it doesn't make any more sense right now. To be clear though, there are a lot of people
that do find that sort of stuff convincing and there are a lot of people who have the same
sorts of beliefs as Herschel Walker about evolution and conception and all of that.
So Rashad, how do we respond to that when someone who wants to run for office,
you just cover up and hide, you don't wanna respond.
>> So John, I cannot tell you brother on how many levels I'm embarrassed.
Okay. Herschel Walker makes me embarrassed to tell people I'm a Christian man.
But I'm a Christian who knows God gave me a brain before he gave me a book and I use it.
Passages in the scripture that say things like slaves, obey your master, that's in the bible,
I can't get down with things like that. But I'm glad I got a brain before I got a book.
So let's look at what Herschel Walker has said here. This is not the first idiotic statement
he has made on the campaign trail. I assume he's somehow trying to connect Darwin's theory to apes
and humans, which by the way, Darwin never said humans came from chimpanzees or apes never did.
That was a narrative adopted by Christian evangelicals to scare individuals
into a theocratic theological core, as far as the history is concerned in evolution.
They continue to do this with Herschel, they keep giving him platforms, they're not helping
him whatsoever. Just a few weeks ago he was saying that congressman John Lewis, who's dead
alright, a civil rights hero, he was calling him Senator John Lewis
and saying that Congressman John Lewis was against the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.
He literally said that during the show and they agreed with them,
they got to stop this foolishness. As I said before, me as a black male, Herschel Walker
as a black male, some black person has to do an intervention with this clown immediately.
>> I think you just gave a great first draft of it.
I think someone should run with that try to help him. And again, like I said, there's a
lot of people who believe some version of what he said. I do think though, if you're gonna make
claims about science or our understanding of our history, try to tie them to reality.
Again, nobody other than people like Herschel Walker claim that we came from monkeys or apes
or whatever we and the great apes and the chimpanzees and the bonobos and all of that
orangutans, we share a common ancestor, there was a thing that gave birth to multiple new species.
That is how evolution actually works. I don't know, maybe that'll blow the mind
of who is it Chuck Allen the guy that he was with. The guy Chuck Allen by the way,
he was loving everything. >> He was gaslighting of John, he
was saying things like whoa buddy, you're smarter than we are, just gaslighting the hell out of him.
>> But Herschel Walker said he made some claim about the apes or whatever and then Chuck Allen
says every time I hear that I think they must be reading a different bible from me. No,
that's not where the scientists are learning, it's not from a different edition of the bible.
It's other books entirely. There are many books with a lot of
information about these things. >> Yeah. And when I get into
these debates sometimes with theologians and they are just hardcore holy bible,
the 66 books of the scripture. I remind them of the apocryphal, I remind them that the books they
read were not actually part of one document, these things were stitched together over time.
And there are many that did not make the bible the canonized version because
some of the other holy scripture, it was contrary to what they wanted to say,
to what they wanted to put in front of other people. And so
they left those parts out of scripture. >> Exactly they were men as flawed.
I'm gonna say more flawed than we are now. Here's the issue though among Republican primary voters,
70% in a recent poll said Walker is their preferred choice.
>> He's gonna win the primary. >> Yeah, 6% but now he's gonna win it.
And then you've got a Senate race in Georgia, he will be going up against Senator Raphael Warnock.
Think about this shift to the Senate, going from Raphael Warnock to Herschel Walker. And
it could happen, remember Georgia was already buried under decades and decades and decades of
voter suppression and all sorts of laws and voter purges and all that. And then they added on more
last year, making it more difficult for people to organize, more people to register and to vote.
That guy could win. He could be giving speeches about Darwin and the apes and
all that on the floor of the Senate Rashad. >> And you got to think about the contrast here,
I'm actually friends with Dr. Raphael Warnock. I've been friends with him for roughly 20 years.
He wanted to run for Senate maybe about 12 years ago. And I remember him and I
had this conversation but he had it in him to do it. He ends up running at the right time,
he wins the election. He's a Christian blackmail also.
He is pastor of Ebenezer Baptist church, the same church that Dr. King pastor.
So he has that legacy, and he has a seminary background. So this guy is completely contrary
to that of Herschel Walker. He comes from a place of common sense. He understands how policy
should work in American Government. He's able to articulate his points with intellectual clarity,
completely contrary to what Herschel does.
Now, why is Herschel even popular? Because he's a black guy
who white people in particular, the white man Donald Trump has validated. And why did they
validate him? Because they feel as if in order to beat a Raphael Warnock who is a black man,
you must need just any other black man who has absolutely nothing compared
to the policy background and also the people background as a Raphael Warnock.
>> 100% exactly right. Everybody needs to
watch this race, get involved in this race if you don't want that man in the Senate.