>>BRUCE HAMILTON: WE’RE BEING ASKED TO WEAR MASKS THESE DAYS COURSE, THE RULE OF THUMB HERE
IN JACKSONVILLE NOW, AND IT’S
ALL TO STOP THE SPREAD
OF CORONAVIRUS AND SOME PEOPLE
ARE BEING SHAME FOR WEARING
MASKS AND OTHERS FOR NOT
WEARING THEM. THE RISE OF MASS
SHAMING REVEALS THE TRICKY
SCIENCE OF
SOCIAL CHANGE. NOT RECYCLE
LASKI IN ETIQUETTE EXPERT AND
AUTHOR OF 8 BOOKS ON LEADERSHIP
IMAGE AND BUSINESS ETIQUETTE
INCLUDING DO IT RIGHT THE NEW
BOOK OF BUSINESS ETIQUETTE
JOINS US HERE ON THE MORNING
SHOW
GOOD MORNING.
>> WELL GOOD MORNING TO YOU
SIR, HOW ARE YOU IN
JACKSONVILLE
DOING GREAT.
>> SO YOU’VE GOT THE MASK
POLICE OUT THERE THESE DAYS AND
IT’S
CAUSING PROBLEMS IF YOU’RE IN A
PLACE THAT REQUIRES MASKS AND
SEE SOMEONE NOT WEARING ONE.
SHOULD YOU CALL THEM OUT.
>> WELL YOU KNOW, LET’S LOOK AT
IT IN A LITTLE DIFFERENT LIGHT
BRUCE. WE LIVE IN USA RIGHT.
WELL THE U.S. STANDS FOR US.
FOR AMERICANS, THIS IS ABOUT US
AS AMERICANS AND TO ME IT’S ALL ABOUT US AND NOT YOU SO. SOME PEOPLE ARE
BEING COMPLIANT AND RIGHTLY SO
THIS IS A SITUATION THAT IS NOT
GOING TO GO AWAY FOR A WHILE IT
IS A LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION.
IT IS REAL AND SO WHEN YOU’RE
WITH SOMEONE OR AROUND SOMEONE
THAT ISN’T WEARING
A MASK. YOU NEVER KNOW THEIR
STORY HOWEVER WHAT I WOULD SAY
IS I’M WONDERING
IF THEY’RE JUST NOT WANTING TO
BE COMPLIANT, MAYBE THEY’RE
BEING A LITTLE DEFIANT LIKE I’M
NOT GOING TO BE TOLD WHAT TO
DO. AND IF IT IS THAT
KIND OF A SITUATION IT DOES NO
GOOD FOR YOU TO SAY ANYTHING
BECAUSE THOSE MAY BE THE SAME
PEOPLE FRANKLY BETTER
DEFIANT IN ALL OTHER ASPECTS OF
THEIR LIFE LIKE TEXTING WHILE
DRIVING OH MY GOSH THAT’S
HAPPENING EVERYWHERE SPEEDING
THAT’S HAPPENING ALL THE TIME
SO IT DOESN’T DO ANY GOOD
YOU’RE ONLY GOING TO GET A
DEFIANT ANSWER AND THAT DOESN’T
HELP ANY WAY, ANYONE WALK AWAY
GET AWAY.
GET AWAY. >>BRUCE HAMILTON: SO THAT ANSWERS MY NEXT QUESTION YOU
DON’T NECESSARILY HAVE A RIGHT
TO DEPUTIZE YOURSELF.
>> NO YOU DON’T THIS IS ABOUT
THE INDIVIDUALS AND IF YOU’RE
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO CARES ABOUT
BEING IN THIS TO
WIN IT. THEN DO EVERYTHING YOU
CAN TO COMPLY AND TO HELP ALL
OF US WHEN IT THIS IS NOT A
TIME
TO GET ANGRY OR FRUSTRATED OR
SAY WELL DON’T TELL ME WHAT
TO DO. WE’RE AMERICANS WE’VE
GOT TO GET TOGETHER ON
THIS LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER
DEFIANCE IS GOING ON BRUCE IN
OUR COUNTRY WHAT GOOD IS IT
DOING NOTHING IT’S ONLY MAKING
PEOPLE ANGRY IT’S GETTING
PEOPLE FRUSTRATED THERE’S FEAR
OUT THERE SO I WOULD JUST SAY
THE INDIVIDUALS THE NAME OF MY
PODCAST BY THE WAY IS CALLED
DOING IT RIGHT. I WOULD JUST
SAY DO IT RIGHT AND IF YOU
CAN’T DO IT RIGHT
STAY HOME.
>>BRUCE HAMILTON: AND YOU KNOW
SOMETIMES YOU PUT YOURSELF AT
RISK WE HAD AN
INCIDENT WHERE THERE WAS A
WOMAN WHO WAS FILMING SOMEBODY
WHO WAS PARADING SOMEBODY ELSE
AT A PIER, ONE OF THE SAINT
JOHNS TOWN CENTER WHICH IS A
SHOPPING CENTER HERE IN TOWN
AND THIS WOMAN
COMES UP AND LITERALLY CUFFS ON
HER SO WE DON’T KNOW OF SHE
EXPOSED HER PERHAPS THE
COVID-19 OR NOT IT JUST PROVES
THAT SHAMING DOESN’T WORK.
>> I DON’T THINK SHAMING WORKS
IN ANY WALK OF LIFE. YOU KNOW
JUST GET REAL
THIS IS THIS IS JUST A
SITUATION. NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN
IN BEFORE NONE OF US THOUGHT WE
WOULD BE IN IT. BUT THE REALITY
IS WE ARE AND SO
AGAIN
DO IT RIGHT OR STAY HOME I MEAN
THAT’S THE MESSAGE WHAT ELSE
CAN
WE DO.
>>BRUCE HAMILTON: YOU KNOW THIS
WHOLE FIGHT AGAINST COVID-19
HAS BECOME A POLITICAL ONE AND
MASKS IS NO DIFFERENT IT’S A
POLITICAL HOT POTATO.
>> IT IS A HOT POTATO AND I
THINK THAT’S THE OTHER THING.
BRUCE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE
IT A
POLITICAL SITUATION. BUT PEOPLE
ARE TRYING TO MASS, I MEAN ARE
TRYING TO MAKE EVERYTHING A
POLITICAL SITUATION AND IT’S
JUST NOT IT’S NOT IT’S
ABOUT HEALTH. IT’S ABOUT LIFE.
IT’S
ABOUT DEATH. THE REALITY IS WE
DON’T KNOW IF WE
HAVE COVID SO YOU CAN SAY ALL
DAY LONG WELL, I’M OK I’VE
BEEN TESTED. WELL THAT DOESN’T
MEAN TOMORROW YOU COULD GET IT.
SO EVEN THE.
ASKING KIND OF A SITUATION
WHERE YOU SAY WELL I’VE BEEN
TESTED THAT DOESN’T MATTER
EITHER WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THIS
STRAIN IS ABOUT SO DO
EVERYTHING YOU CAN AS
INDIVIDUALS TO PAY ATTENTION
LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE WERE
IN STAGE 2. AND PEOPLE JUST
SAID OH WELL,
A GROUP OF KIDS WENT TO A
GRADUATION PARTY AT A BEACH,
SOMEBODY CAME HOME GAVE IT TO
THEIR MOM AND DAD AND THE MOM
AND DAD ARE NOW ON VENTILATORS
SO REALLY. >>BRUCE HAMILTON: YEAH SEE IT BUT HOW DO YOU GENTLY SAY TO
SOMEBODY LOOK YOU KNOW IT’S
IT’S IT’S NOT
ABOUT ME. IT’S YOU KNOW IT’S
ABOUT MY MY KID, IT’S ABOUT MY
WIFE, IT’S ABOUT MY
SENIOR CITIZEN. YOU KNOW MOM
AND DAD OR A GRANDPARENT IS
THERE A GENERAL WAY TO APPROACH
IT.
>> IF YOU’RE IN A CONVERSATION
WITH SOMEONE AND LIKE A GROUP
OF FRIENDS.
I THINK IT’S PERFECTLY ALL
RIGHT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE
THAT’S THE TRUTH. BRUCE AS LONG
AS YOU’RE STANDING FOR WHAT’S
RIGHT. AND THE TRUTH,
THEN YOU’LL BE OK IF THEY WANT
TO ARGUE BACK FORGET THE
CONVERSATION TO SAY WELL THAT’S
MY THOUGHT.
>> SOMET