Joining us now, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham is with us.
Senator, welcome to the program.
Thank you for being here.
Let's get your reaction, you were.
>> If you got a pile of crap and you chop it up 34 times, it's still a pile of crap.
It's duplicitous charging.
They're trying to smear the guy,
they're trying to take cases that nobody else would take and resurrect them.
This is literally legal voodoo.
This is political persecution.
>> I don't think it's literally legal voodoo.
That seems exciting.
I'd read that screenplay, but I don't think that's what it is, but
Lindsey Graham is obviously going through a lot.
You can hear it in his voice.
You can see it in his glistening eyes.
He's very much affected by the legal troubles that his great longtime friend
Donald Trump is experiencing.
And he's worried about Trump.
He's specifically worried about Trump's financial state, but
he's got a solution for that.
>> To the conservatives out there.
Make sure you vote.
If you got friends, make sure they vote.
If you don't have any friends, go make some friends, but
you need to help this man Donald J Trump.
They're trying to drain him dry.
He spent more money on lawyers than most people spend on campaigns.
They're trying to bleed him dry.
Donald J Trump.com.
Go tonight, give the president some money to fight this bull.
This is going to destroy America.
We're gonna fight back at the ballot box.
We're not gonna give in.
How does this end Sean?
Trump wins in court and he wins the election.
That's how this ends.
Donald J Trump.com.
Give the man some money so he can fight.
>> I feel bad sometimes for conservatives.
They're being told to spend their last dollar to give it to a literal
billionaire so that he can defend himself for the crimes that he committed.
And they're also insulted along the way as being friendless man.
These right-wingers really don't respect the audience.
>> Now we're gonna get to an awesome and
hilarious piece of hypocrisy from Lindsey Graham in a second.
But drain him dry, don't do that, okay.
>> Wasn't that the problem in the first place?
>> Yeah, and [LAUGH] [INAUDIBLE] anyway.
But look guys, I've said this now many times including earlier in the show.
He never gave any of the money that he raised for legal defense, hundreds of
millions of dollars to any of the January six guys didn't help them one dime.
All he cares about is himself.
He already has a couple of $100 million for legal defense.
He then we'll do it.
That's plenty of money.
The legal defense costs a lot of money.
It doesn't cost that much.
And then second of all, is he, or isn't he a billionaire?
Look, if you're making $15 an hour,
like a lot of Republican politicians say that's too much, right?
But if you are, congrats, you're bringing about 31,000 a year,
you're gonna give money to Donald Trump who says he has $10 billion.
Why?
Look, man, it's your money.
And if you're a right-winger, I kind of like you wasting it on politically.
I don't like you wasting it in real life, right?
>> Yeah. >> But,
that could be going to other Republican politicians, etc, but weirdly,
I'm looking out for you.
Why the hell would you give it to that guy?
Because this weirdo who doesn't believe a word he's saying, Lindsay,
you all know how fake Lindsey Graham is.
If you're MAGA, you know how pathetic he is, right?
And they're pretending to cry out.
[INAUDIBLE].
God, I've never seen a worse weasel in my life than Lindsay Graham.
>> Can I make that my ring tone?
>> [LAUGH] >> These are like mega churches, right?
These are like the pastors who go on TV and ask for your money, it's for
the church, it's for the people, it's for what we're doing.
And then they go back and they raise their salaries and
they raise the salaries of everyone who works at the church and
everybody is getting the money and they're keeping the money.
And they're raising it on the backs of people who don't have it.
I've been to so many, I've probably been to 100 and that's not exaggerating.
Probably close to 100.
Anyway, Trump rallies and Trump things, and
at these places you meet people who look like they need every dollar they have.
And I don't mean that, you see the kind of cars they drive up in.
You see, and not all of them, but
these are people that are giving money that are being taken advantage of.
I feel badly for these people.
I think others feel badly for them too because they're being taken advantage of.
Then you have Lindsey Graham go on TV and say that somehow by sending a check to
Donald Trump, you are gonna save America because this case in his eyes is unjust.
And this pleading, the almost tears that you saw from Lindsey Graham,
those are the kind of things that are the saddest part of this whole MAGA era.
Is the people that he's taken advantage of all the way through.
It's like the Trump University.
It's like the veterans scam that he had all of that.
It's taking advantage of people for the bottom line being dollars.
>> Yeah, I remember you said you feel bad for them.
I remember covering back around the 2020 election they had that scam.
It wasn't just Trump, but
Trump was by far the worst where they would have people sign up.
And then they would effectively trick them with check boxes into signing up for
automatic recurring donations of the same size.
And there were elderly conservatives whose entire bank account was just drained
from these automatic things.
And they had to fight like hell to get their money back and Trump didn't care,
they just kept doing it over and over again.
So that's pathetic and I feel bad for them.
I don't feel too bad for Lindsey Graham though despite the fact that man,
that guy has fallen far over the years.
If you're getting new to American politics,
you might see those videos we showed you.
Didn't think, well, that's who Lindsey Graham is.
But remember he used to be kind of different,
especially in how he spoke about Donald Trump.
>> Here's what I think.
I think Donald Trump is a political car wreck and
he shouldn't be commander in chief.
He's becoming a jackass at a time when we need to have a serious
debate about the future of the party and the country.
>> What is your reaction to hearing what Donald Trump says.
>> And disgusted, he's a race baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot.
He doesn't represent my party.
He doesn't represent the values that the men and
women who wear the uniform are fighting for.
And you know how you make America great again, tell Donald Trump to go to hell.
>> They are harsh words.
Maybe not as harsh as the things Tucker Carlson has said about Trump, but
they're still pretty rough.
>> Yeah, no, Lindsey Graham does not have a body double.
That was not a double gager.
>> Incredible, we just learned about him too.
He said, he's been looking for a friend for a long time and
he finally found one and that friend is Donald Trump.
It's his friend, Lindsay got a friend, so.
>> Yeah, I watched a lot of those clips and
we covered a lot of those clips at the time.
Yeah, he went on to say in that a conversation on
CNN that Donald Trump emboldens our enemies and
that he's such a national security threat that we should go to DEFCON for.
Now to be fair to Lindsey Graham,
there is one thing he's always been consistent on which is starting wars.
So he probably wanted to do that for a number of reasons.
But guys, this is not some sort of change of heart.
He didn't go to church, although Michael's analogy is a great one, so
great that I used it earlier.
[LAUGH] I'm so amused by myself.
Anyway, so when, no, but seriously the idea that these are preachers in a sense,
the new preachers I think is exactly right.
And so I think the Tucker Carlson's etc are, setting up the mega churches, right?
And they're the top preachers and these are like, junior preachers,
like visiting preachers that come on these politicians.
And so they gotta do the act, they gotta talk, speaking gibberish and
play with snakes and stuff and do the carnival and then do some juggling, right?
And be like, right?
But it's all like bread and circus and it's always been entertainment, whether
it was religion or it was the gladiators back in Rome or it's Fox News today.
It's always a way to entertain you.
But as a way of tricking you and mollifying you and
making sure you don't see the real problems.
That's literally why the Roman emperors did those things where they,
not only the gladiators but feeding the Christians to the etc,
etc was like, hey, fight the others, blame the others.
Don't look at me.
I'm the real problem.
I'm the goddamn emperor, right?
It was all a distraction and that's what's happening.
Lindsey Graham has never believed the word he's saying in all of politics.
You see a character in a movie and the most be rate movie you've ever seen.
And it undersells, what kind of a grease ball Lindsey Graham is as a politician.