APPROPRIATE FOREIGN POLICY TO
RESIST AGGRESSION YOU AGGRESSION
IN THE UKRAINE.
GOOD STUFF BUT HARDLY THE STUFF
OF IMPEACHMENT.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE
ASSESSMENT THERE?
IS IT ONE THAT RISES TO THE
LEVEL OF IMPEACHING ANY
PRESIDENT?
>> NOT ONLY DOES IT NOT RISE TO
THE LEVEL OF IMPEACHMENT BUT
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO
UNDERSTAND HOW SOMETHING COULD
ALLEGEDLY BE USED AS A BRIBE.
THAT'S AFTER THE FAMOUS
CONVERSATION I THINK IT'S
VERGING ON RIDICULOUS.
IF THEY DON'T KNOW, IT'S HARD TO
LEAN ON THEM.
>> Shannon: AND WE SEE THE
TERMINOLOGY IS CHANGING A LITTLE
BIT ON ACCUSATIONS.
SEAN DAVIS, ONE OF THE
COFOUNDERS OF "THE FEDERALIST"
TWEETED THIS TODAY.
AS BEST AS I CAN TELL, TRUMPS
REAL CRIME IS USED TO DELEGATE
THE ENTIRETY OF U.S.
POLICYMAKING TO THINK THE
CONSTITUTION GIVES THEM ALL THE
POWER AND AUTHORITY THAT RUNS A
COUNTRY.
THAT GETS US TO THIS
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER THE
BUREAUCRACY OR THE "DEEP STATE"
MIGHT BE SMARTER OR BETTER.
HAVING BEEN A LEADER, HOW IS
THIS A SO-CALLED CONVERSATION OF
THE DEEP STATE?
>> THEY ARE EXTREMELY LOYAL
AMERICANS NOT ONLY TO THE
COUNTRY BUT ALSO TO THEIR BOSS.
AND CORRECTLY WOULD RESIGN IF
THEY CAME IN CONFLICT WITH THAT
BOSS.
THEY ARE ALSO -- SOME, I
CERTAINLY DON'T THINK IT'S THE
MAJORITY BUT, THERE ARE SOME WHO
FULFILL THIS CRITERIA FOR WHAT
PEOPLE ARE CALLING A DEEP STATE.
UNDERMINING THE PRESIDENT'S
POLICIES BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE
THEM.
AND I THINK THEY ARE THERE AND I
THINK THEY ARE SOUNDING OFF
PRIVATELY AND TRYING TO
INFLUENCE YOU THEN.
BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THEY
ARE THE PRINCIPAL
CHARACTERIZATION OF THE CIVIL
SERVANTS.
>> Shannon: YES, THE MAJORITY
OF THEM.
I WANT TO PLAY SOMETHING THAT
DEVIN NUNES SAID TODAY IN HIS
OPENING STATEMENT ABOUT THE U.S.
PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO THE
UKRAINE AND MORE ON THAT.
>> DESPITE ALL THEIR
DISSATISFACTION WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S UKRAINE POLIC
POLICY, THE PRESIDENT APPROVED
THE SUPPLY OF WEAPONS TO THE
UKRAINE.
UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS
ADMINISTRATION WHICH PROVIDED
BLANKETS AS DEFENSE AGAINST
INVADING RUSSIANS.
>> Shannon: THIS IS THEN
UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT'S AND HE
SAID FINALLY THE DAY HAS COME.
THE LAUNCH OF JAVELIN MISSILE
COMPLEXES TOOK PLACE AND IT'S A
VERY EFFECTIVE DEFENSIVE
WEAPONRY WHICH IS USED IN THE
EVENT OF RUSSIAN OFFENSIVES ON
THE POSITION OF UKRAINIAN
TROOPS.
HOW WOULD YOU ASSESS WHAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE TO HELP
THE UKRAINE?
>> BY TRANSFERRING JAVELIN AND
OTHER LETHAL AID INSTRUMENTS AND
WEAPONS.
AS WELL AS THINGS THAT THEY NEED
ANYWAY AND WERE GIVEN BY THE
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SUCH AS
BLANKETS.
IT'S UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES
THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
HAS DONE A GREAT DEAL MORE FOR
AIDING THE UKRAINE THEN THE
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID.
I THINK IT'S NOT JUST A SLIGHT
DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S A HUGE
DIFFERENCE.
TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AIRCRAFT.
AND THAT IS AS EFFECTIVE AS WHAT
IS TRANSFERRED AND THAT
CERTAINLY WAS NOT DONE ANYWHERE