MINORITY LEADER SOON TO BE
SPEAKER WILL BE PROVED WRONG.
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CHARGED TO
CHINESE NATIONALS WITH CYBER
ESPIONAGE AND VIOLATIONS OF AN
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE UNITED
STATES AND COMMUNIST CHINA.
THE TWO COMMUNIST AGENTS HACKED
THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.
THEY HACKED NASA AND THEY STOLE
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS, DATES
AND BURSTS FOR MORE THAN 100,000
US NAVY PERSONNEL.
THIS COMES AFTER CHINA HAD
AGREED TO END STATE-SPONSORED
CYBER ATTACKS FOR ECONOMIC GAIN,
AS A STYLE THAT IN 2015.
A HOLDOVER FROM THE OBAMA ERA
AND THE TRUMP ERROR MEANS THEY
WILL ENFORCE AGREEMENTS AND
ENFORCE LAWS AND YES, ACT IN THE
NATIONAL INTEREST.
THROUGH ME TONIGHT IS DEAN
CHANG, SENIOR RESEARCH FELLOW AT
THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION'S ASIAN
STUDIES CENTER.
DEAN, GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
FORMER SENIOR ADVISOR FROM THE
STATE DEPARTMENT INSIGHT
TERRORISM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM
FORMER LAWN WAS AN ADVISOR TO
THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL
COMMITTEE EVER SECURITY EXPERT,
GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US,
MORGAN.
DEAN, LET'S START WITH WHO KNEW
WE HAD FOREIGN AGENTS THAT
WORKED IN OUR SOCIETY STEALING
OUR TECHNOLOGY AND INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY OR THAT WE HAD CHINESE
COMMUNIST TRAINEES SPIES
EVERYWHERE COLLECTING AS MUCH AS
THEY POSSIBLY COULD FROM OUR IP
TEA AND STEALING IT TO THE TUNE
OF HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS EVERY YEAR.
>> IF WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT
THERE'S BEEN A CATASTROPHIC
FAILURE IN OUR INTELLIGENCE.
THE REALITY IS THAT THIS HAS
BEEN COMMON KNOWLEDGE AMONG
CYBER SECURITY SPECIALISTS
LAW-ENFORCEMENT ET CETERA BUT
THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN TRYING TO .
LOU: I'VE BEEN REPORTING ON IT
FOR 20 YEARS.
3500 COMPANIES FROM COMMUNIST
CHINA.
THEY OPERATE FOR THE SPECIFIC
PURPOSE OF STEALING THOSE
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS AND NEITHER
REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRATIC
PRESIDENTIAL IN MINISTRATION DID
A DAMN THING ABOUT IT.
>> UNTIL NOW.
WHAT IS STRIKING IS THAT WE ARE
SEEING AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD SET
OF EFFORTS.
THESE TWO PEOPLE AND RECENTLY
ARRESTED BELGIUM EXTRADITED TO
THE UNITED STATES AND A MEMBER
OF THE CHINESE MINISTRY OF STATE
SECURITY AT THE PROVINCIAL LEVEL
WHO IS STEALING SECRETS FROM
BOEING THAT WE ARE FINALLY DOING
SOMETHING TO SAY TO THE CHINESE
WHAT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT
YOU WILL NOT ENGAGE IN ECONOMIC
CYBER ESPIONAGE.
LOU: WE HAVE AN INDEPENDENT
SOVEREIGN NATION AND MORGAN, IT
SAYS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE,
BY GOLLY, IF YOU WANT TO PAY
ATTENTION TO IT THAT WE SHOULD
BE ABLE TO DEFEND THE STATION
AGAINST CYBER ATTACKS AND CYBER
ESPIONAGE AND HACKING AND
MEANWHILE, BECAUSE DEAN IS
RIGHT, THE OBAMA IN MINISTRATION
THOUGHT WE HAD TO HAVE AN
AGREEMENT THAT PLEASE, CHINA,
DON'T STEAL FROM US THIS WOULD
OFFEND OUR SENSIBILITIES.
HELL, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE
WERE NOT GO TO WAR OVER THIS
KIND OF NONSTRESS THEFT.
>> I TALKED ABOUT THIS AND AN
ARTICLE COMING OUT IN THE HILL
THIS LATE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND
OTHER RULES HAVE CHANGED.
IN WORLD WAR I WE FOUND OUT THE
DATA AFFECTS MUSTARD GAS AND WE
SAID WE WILL NOT DO THAT.
CLUSTER BOMBS AND THERE ARE
ENORMOUS WARFARE BUT WARFARE IS
IN CYBERSPACE AND THE CHINESE
ARE VIOLATING EVERY SINGLE ONE
OF THEM.
YOU CAN KEEP INDICTING ALL THE
PEOPLE WE WANT BUT IT WILL TAKE
THE PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE
SWORD.
WHEN YOU REST THE CFO OF HUAWEI
THAT IS THE NIECE OF THE FOUNDER
AND WE TAKE ACTION AND MAKE IT
DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO TRAVEL IN
THE HPC SO THEY WILL NO LONGER
UNDERWRITE .
LOU: THEY ARE STEPPING UP HERE.
BUT FRANKLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND
THIS.
ABSENT CASUALTIES AND THAT IS
KILLED AND WOUNDED, THIS IS NO
DIFFERENT THAN PEARL HARBOR.
WE ARE WATCHING THE DESTRUCTION
OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS,
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS AND
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR.
>> PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION.
[INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS]
>> IS MORE THAN PHILOSOPHY.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MONEY WERE
TALKING ABOUT JOBS.
TALKING ABOUT COMPANIES.
HOW MANY COMPANIES HAVE GONE OUT
OF BUSINESS AS THEY HAVE FOUND
THEIR INTELLECT PROPERTY WAS
BEING SOLD BY CHINESE BEFORE
THEY THEMSELVES COULD BRING IT
TO MARKET THEM AND HOW MANY
PATENTS ARE FILED BY THE CHINESE
BEFORE THEIR RIGHTFUL ACTUAL
CREATORS TO FILE FOR -
CREATORS TO FILE FOR .
LOU: WE ARE WAY OVER TIME BUT
MORGAN, LET ME ASK YOU THIS
SIMPLY.
WHY WOULD WE PUT UP WITH THIS
OVER SO MANY IN MINISTRATIONS
AND WHY DID IT TAKE PRESIDENT
TRUMP TO SAY HELL, NO, NO MORE?
>> IT'S BEEN THE ECONOMIC
ISSUES.
IT'S THEIR POWER OF OWNING OUR
DEBT.
WE COUNT OUT FOR THEM TOO LONG.
WERE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT MIGHT
HAPPEN AND WHAT IF BUT WERE PAST
THE WHAT IF.
THE REST OF THE PEOPLE, MAKE IT
DIFFICULT TO DO BUSINESS BUT THE
CRIB ON CHINA'S EXPANSION PLANS
IN THEIR POCKET BOOK AND START
GETTING THEIR ATTENTION FINALLY.