TRISH: THIS CONVERSATION IS
TAKING PLACE ALL OVER THE PLACE
ABOUT HOW WOMEN ARE TREATED IN
WORKFORCE AND NOW NEW CONCERNS
GOING.
THE CEO OF THE MISS AMERICA
ORGANIZATION, SAM HASKELL, IS
UNDER FIRE FOR SHOCKING INTERNAL
EMAILS WHERE HE DEMEANED WOMEN'S
TAKE A LOOK WHAT MR. HASKELL AND
A FRIEND OF IS EMAILED BACK AND
FORTH TO ONE ANOTHER.
I ACTUALLY CAN'T REPEAT IT.
WHILE HE USING THE "C" WORD, YOU
KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
PRETTY BAD STUFF.
APPARENTLY WRITER OF THIS SHOW
USED THAT WORD, WELL, SAM HESS
SCHEDULE WENT ALONG WITH IS --
HASKELL WENT ALONG WITH IT AND
LAUGHED IT OFF.
PEOPLE ARE UPSET.
DICK CLARK PRODUCTIONS, HAD A
COUPLE BOARD SEATS ON THE MISS
AMERICA BOARD, CUT TIES WITH THE
ORGANIZATION ALTHOUGH THERE ARE
REPORTS THEY HAVE KNOWN ABOUT
THE EMAILS FOR MONTHS.
THIS HIT AS LITTLE CLOSE TO HOME
FOR ME.
I READ IT LAST NIGHT AND FELT
I WAS CROWNED MISS NEW HAMPSHIRE
IN 1993 AND THERE IS THE VIDEO.
PAGEANTS LIKE MISS AMERICA, I
TELL YOU THEY COME WITH A LOT OF
POSITIVES, THERE ARE GOOD THINGS
ABOUT THEM, AND THEY WORK FOR
SOME PEOPLE, AND ARE GREAT
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM.
IT IS NOT OKAY FOR ANYONE TO
TALK ABOUT WOMEN LIKE THESE
PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT THEM.
THE VERY WOMEN THAT THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO BE SUPPORTING.
FORMER MISS AMERICA BOARD MEMBER
REGINA HOPPER, SHE SUMMED THIS
UP PRETTY PERFECTLY.
THERE IS QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE
IN THE "HUFFINGTON POST."
THEY PUT THEIR HEART AND SOUL
BEING THE BEST THEY CAN BE.
THE CEO OF ORGANIZATION WOULD
AGREE THAT WORD, YOU KNOW WHAT
THAT WORD I AM TALKING, ABOUT IS
THE PERFECT CHARACTERIZATION OF
MISS AMERICAS AND THEN LAUGH,
IT'S HEART BREAK.
SHE IS RIGHT, IT IS
HEARTBREAKING.
HERE TO DISCUSS ALL OF THIS
CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL
FOR HE HAVE ONE.
I SAY NO, I DON'T WANT THEM TO
DO THAT.
HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES, BUT YOU
KNOW WHAT?
THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT
OPPORTUNITY, SO LET'S GET THAT
OUT OF THE WAY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THIS
WHO LOVE COMPETING IN THE
SYSTEM.
AND IT IS HELPFUL TO THEM.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
TRISH: WHEN ORGANIZATIONS ARE
EXCHANGING EMAILS BACK AND FORTH
AND YOU SAW IT WHAT IS THE POINT
WHERE WE REACH THE CULTURE RIGHT
NOW I'M SO HAPPY THIS IS BEING
EXPOSED BUT HOW DOES IT CHANGE?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION,
TRISH.
YEAH, I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU ARE
PERSONALLY ADDRESSING THIS,
BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE SUCH
AUTHORITY ON THIS, AS SOMEONE
WHO HAS ACTUALLY COMPETED IN THE
THESE PLATFORMS GIVE YOUNG
WOMEN, MY DAUGHTER, HAS COMPETED
IN THE SAME CIRCUIT, THEY GIVE
YOUNG WOMAN AN OPPORTUNITY TO
DEVELOP THEIR PUBLIC SPEAKING
SKILLS, THEIR DEBATE SKILLS.
JUST EVEN THEIR CHARITABLE
PLATFORM FOR THE FUTURE.
SO THOSE THINGS ARE ALL GOOD
THINGS.
WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING
TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE WAY THAT
WOMEN ARE BEING PORTRAYED IN OUR
CULTURE AND THAT WE CONTINUE TO
HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, THAT IT
IS JUST NOT OKAY, TO TALK ABOUT
WOMEN THAT WAY.
EMAIL WE DID, PERHAPS
MR. HASKELL WAS NOT COMPLETELY
COMFORTABLE.
TRISH: I THINK THAT IS FAIR.
I KNOW HIM.
IF YOU READ THOSE EMAIL
EXCHANGES, HE IS SORT OF TRYING
TO LAUGH IT OFF, BAD BEHAVIOR OF
ANOTHER PERSON.
>> YEAH.
TRISH: BUT WE CAN'T.
MEN AND WOMEN TOGETHER, YOU
CAN'T TOLERATE IT.
YOU CAN'T LAUGH IT OFF.
YOU CAN'T SAY HA, HA.
THIS ADULT WOMEN AND THEY'RE
JUST TALKING, THIS IS GUY TALK
BACK CHANNEL ON EMAIL.
WELL.
I THINK WE ALSO HAVE BE VERY
CAREFUL ABOUT THE SORT OF
PURGING TAKING PLACE IN
CORPORATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT
SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING SOME
OF THE EXPOSING AND SOME OF THIS
PURGING, MAY NOT HAVE HIGHEST OF
MOTIVES EITHER.
THAT IS WE HAD AHOLD OF THEIR
EMAILS WE WOULD FIND THINGS
PRETTY OFFENSIVE.
WE MIGHT BE CAREFUL CASTING
STONES.
TRISH: I HEAR YOU, THAT IS THE
WHOLESALE LEMM WITCH TRIAL
THING.
IT IS IMPORTANT, YOU HAVE
DAUGHTERS, I HAVE DAUGHTER, WE
AS WOMEN, THINGS NEED TO CHANGE
AND THEY'RE STARTING TO.
THAT IS GOOD NEWS.