Let me just preface this by saying, Tim Pool's dad for president?
Let's watch.
>> Yeah, first things first,
anything I say is my opinion, but I am Tim Pool's dad and
I saw him on a video talking about Chelsea handler and
he said some pretty big words about family.
>> You did just watch a video that features Tim Pool's father.
And he's been putting out more and more content on YouTube and I hope he
continues doing it because dude is like the most reasonable guy I have heard.
I don't know where he leans politically but even when he disagrees with folks,
including us, stay tuned for that, super reasonable.
So we will get to that in a moment.
>> Was he?
Okay, and I'll have you know that he criticized us on the show, Ana wasn't on.
Okay, so I'll come back to Mr Pool in a second.
>> Okay. All right.
But let me just say it's not about the disagreement itself,
it's the way in which he disagrees.
So again, stay tuned for that.
But before we get to,
what was he referring to in the video that we showed you?
Well, he mentioned Chelsea Handler because, well,
Tim Pool had a lot to say about Chelsea Handler deciding not to have kids and
then proceeded to talk about the importance of having kids because when
you're older, you need someone to take care of.
You need personal mates, right?
So here's the argument from Tim Pool and then we'll go back to his father.
>> This idea that you shouldn't have kids is wrong.
I want you to think about what it's gonna be like for
yourself when you're 70 years old.
When your bowels begin to fail you.
When your bladder is loose and you become incontinent, who's gonna be there for you?
Who's gonna hold your hand, man?
You really gotta have a family.
And there'll be someone there to be looking at you in the event something bad
happens.
As the saying goes, no one on their deathbed says I wish I worked more.
Everybody says to themselves, so they say,
that they wish they spent more time with family.
But right now, what are we seeing?
People don't have families.
No families at all.
>> I have a lot to say about that video.
Look, I'm gonna be fair and just note that what he mentions in regard
to having people that you can lean on to take care of you in your elder years,
I do worry about that a little bit, right?
I worry about, what if my husband dies before I do?
And then I'm alone and I don't have kids.
But the idea to me, the idea of having kids simply because you want people to
take care of you later in life is incredibly selfish and
not a good reason to have kids.
That's just the way I think, right?
>> Look, I have kids so I can tell you.
Worrying about my loose bladder decades from now is not why I had kids nor
why any rational person should have kids.
The kids are a reward in and of themselves.
They're wonderful creatures.
Pain in the ass, don't get me wrong, all right?
But at the same time, incredible like to see them grow and
become independent human beings with their personalities.
I love having kids.
I think it has added to my life immeasurably.
And I don't have any problem with my bladder.
>> God.
>> What a weirdly selfish reason to have kids.
Look, to be fair, again, not that weird,
I know a lot of people think about it that way.
>> Yeah, they do, yeah.
>> Yeah, but I don't think that's the right way to think about it at all.
>> Right, and there's also no guarantee that your kids are gonna want to take care
of you when you're older, right?
>> Yeah. And that's assuming a lot.
>> Yeah, exactly.
So with that said though,
you have Tim Pool's dad respond to Tim Pool's statements in that video.
And I thought him calling out his own son for his hypocrisy was fascinating.
So, let's take a look at that.
>> He said some pretty big words about family.
Now, if what he said is true, then I did a good job in raising him.
But I haven't been seeing that.
Haven't been seeing any family connections with Tim or his brother.
So, when Tim sees this and he really feels about family
the way he spoke, he knows my phone number.
We'll see.
>> No, I love this guy.
I love his demeanor.
I love his glasses, his sunglasses.
I love how he's the father version of call your mother.
I just love all of it, right?
Now, look, I don't know what their internal family drama is, but
I do think calling out Tim Pool for his hypocrisy on the importance of family is
important, especially if he has such strong words in regard
to women who make decisions about their own personal lives, right?
>> So, look, I don't love these family members getting involved.
They don't necessarily have any more expertise than anyone else just because
you're Tim Pool's dad.
Having said that, he makes an excellent point here because if Tim Pool
is saying the main reason should have families so
they can take care of you when you're older, but he hasn't called his dad and
forget taking care of his dad, he won't even call his dad, right?
Well, that seems to go against your argument on air about why family is so
great.
So, that's a pretty fair thing to point out if you're his dad.
>> Now, the best part about Tim Pool's father is the way
he responded to a comment on that video.
So the comment touches on Tim Pool's bigoted
statements about the transgender community.
So let me get to the comment and how his father responded to it.
So, FirePhoenix writes in, I started watching your son back when
I was a closeted trans woman back in 2020, and since I've come out and
gotten more comfortable, I've genuinely gotten scared of him.
Your son scares me so much, his rhetoric, his hate for me as a trans person,
his hate for his family, and his hate in general will hurt people.
He platforms really evil people and he says after up stuff.
I'm sorry, you have to deal with the mess.
I hope he can find peace and you can all reconcile.
Now, here's how the elder Pool responded to it.
I am sorry that my son fuels division and for some hate.
I never understand people that believe they should make decisions for
other people in other situations.
If I have not walked in the shoes of people,
I will not make any decision on their lives.
Such as abortion or medical assistance for young people that desire transition.
If miners, I hope their parents and medical professionals give them support so
that they can live a life full of happiness.
All of my best to you and yours.
>> All right. He's a good guy.
All right, we like Pool senior a little bit better.
>> No, I like him a lot better.
>> Yeah, so do you have the tape of him criticizing us?
I do.
So I like him even though he criticized us.
Well, okay, let me give you the context.
>> Okay, hold on.
Before you get there, speaking of dad's though,
another guy that people think is better than the sun is my dad, okay?
[LAUGH].
And I interviewed him.
You can check it out on TYT interviews a while back.
And, people loved that interview and even the right wing were like,
how did a douche like you come out of a great guy like that?
Although they don't know, my dad's very progressive, [LAUGH], okay?
But anyway, he's booked originally Young Turk, you could buy it shoptyt.com, okay?
Now, back to Pool senior attacking us and my vicious retort coming up in a second.
>> Its okay, so Tim Pool's father criticized TYT over
coverage of a Tim Pool story on a Friday Power panel.
So I wasn't part of it, that's what Cenk was alluding to earlier.
Relax.
Now, in the video, Rayyvana took issue with something
that Tim Pool said about compliments at the workplace.
So if a male colleague compliments a woman colleague in a certain way, Tim Pool
thinks you're gonna either get fired, written up, there's consequences for it.
So, here's a piece of what Tim said and
the brief commentary from Rayyvana that his dad seemed to take issue with.
Let's watch.
>> If you woke up to a guy and you're a guy and you go, whoa, bro,
looking good man.
You're working out, lost weight.
Wow, great suit by the way, nobody cares.
Nobody [INAUDIBLE].
Now, imagine the same thing.
You're a guy and you're walking, Diane, you're looking good.
You're working out.
That's a nice dress.
You're getting written up.
Imagine if you walk up to a guy and you put his hand on the shoulder and
say you really did a good job out there, man.
No one cares.
You do that to a woman, maybe not,
which have the potential to be getting written up.
They'll say, hey, look, you touched her.
She didn't like it.
We're warning you not doing it again.
You're back. I put my hand on her shoulder and
said good job.
You can't be touching employees like this.
>> The standard for
what's considered sexual harassment in the workplace is except really high.
It has to be severe and pervasive.
And touching your coworkers shoulder would definitely not reach that standard.
>> So Tim Pool's father disagreed with what Rayyvana said.
So I wanna go to his video and then we can discuss it.
>> I guess Tim had a video where he had two scenarios,
one with a man complimenting another man and one with a man complimenting a woman.
And he stated that you can't do that because it can get you in trouble with
your employer with a sexual harassment suit.
And then the woman from the TYT gets on there and she starts spouting that.
No, you have to have more egregious.
And I'm telling you as a federal employee up until last year,
you don't have to, you can just make one stupid little comment and
you can get taken to the man for it.
I mean, I can fire you for it or anything.
But they'll probably have a sit down with you and tell you,
don't be going up to Susie telling her she's looking fine.
From all that hard work out, they just look emotional,
TYT when they get out there and tag my son.
>> Okay, so, despite what you might feel or
where you land on this issue that they're in disagreement about,
what I like about Tim Pool's father in attacking us is that he
was totally reasonable and calm and didn't insult TYT.
You get what I'm saying?
>> Well, he gets everyone emotional.
Well, I mean-.
>> [INAUDIBLE].
>> Hold on.
No, but hold on.
Oftentimes we are emotional whether it's passion, anger, outrage,
whatever it is, and the same can be said of Tim Pool show.
>> Yeah, although I think his show is a little bit more boring, so
not that passionate.
But [LAUGH], okay, anyway, seriously guys, look,
on his Pool seniors video, I agree with Ana is perfectly calm, normal.
That's how disagreement should be.
And in reality I watched the whole thing.
He doesn't actually disagree with us.
He actually made the same point Rayyvana made.
Rayyvana was saying that it has to be severe and pervasive for
you to be fired or for a lawsuit on those grants to succeed, okay?
And that is true.
But it does not have to be that severe to have HR talk to you.
So Pool Senior is correct about that, but Rayyvana didn't say that
it has to be severe and pervasive for HR to talk to you.
And by the way, HR should talk to you if you're making people uncomfortable and
even Tim Pool's dad said it.
He's like,
actually Tim's not right about the guy on guy thing either if you told the guy, hey,
you look great in that outfit, HR might also talk to you about that, right?
And that is true.
So it's just two different things.
One is getting talked about to, say, hey, don't make people uncomfortable.
Another is being fired.
So Rayyvana was stating the correct legal principles.
It was just a little bit of a misunderstanding, but Ana is right.
I wish all interactions were like that where the guy didn't, they're the worst.
They're bad intent.
They're evil.
They're this, they're that etc.
He was just like, hey, I don't agree and that's not my experience.
God bless, nothing wrong with that.