NEWLY RELEASED TEXT MESSAGES
BETWEEN FBI OFFICIALS PETER
STRZOK AND LISA PAGE.
RAISING NEW QUESTIONS OVER WHAT
ROLE THEN PRESIDENT OBAMA MAY
HAVE PLAYED IN THE MONTHS
LEADING UP TO THE 2016 ELECTION.
PAGE TEXTED STRZOK IN SEPTEMBER
OF 2016 SAYING "POTUS WANTS TO
WAS ABOUT TO END ITS
INVESTIGATION INTO
HILLARY CLINTON AND EXPAND ITS
RUSSIA PROBE, SO WE DON'T REALLY
KNOW WHAT THAT'S REFERRING TO.
BEN SHAPIRO'S EDITOR IN CHIEF
OF DailyWire.com AND A HOST OF
THE BEN SHAPIRO SHOW.
QUITE HAPPY WITH US.
WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THE NEW
TEXTS?
>> IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE
CONTEXT IS.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE ORIGINAL
NOW IT SEEMS LIKE THE OPPOSITE,
GENERAL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN
THE ELECTION, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE
THE CONTEXT IT'S HARD TO KNOW
WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING
IMPORTANT OR NOT.
WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT STRZOK
AND PAGE WERE MOTIVATED AGAINST
THE PRESIDENT.
THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE PRESIDENT.
HOW THAT MANIFESTED IN THEIR
BEHAVIOR IS SOMETHING UNCLEAR.
IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE FBI
THE OBAMA AND ADMINISTRATION
HILLARY CLINTON INVESTIGATION A
LOT EARLIER THAN THIS WHEN IT
CAME TO LORETTA LYNCH WORKING
WITH JAMES COMEY.
THE UNITED STATES WOULD GO ON
NATIONAL TELEVISION AND SAY HE
DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE
PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS AND THAT
WAS A SERIOUS PROBLEM I THINK
FOR HIM AND FOR THE FBI AND FOR
CHRIS WALLACE.
THIS IS BACK IN APRIL 2016 AS A
HERE'S WHAT HE SET ABOUT GETTING
INVOLVED OR NOT GETTING INVOLVED
WITH THE INVESTIGATION.
>> I DO NOT TALK TO THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL ABOUT PENDING
INVESTIGATIONS.
I DO NOT TALK ABOUT FBI
DIRECTORS ABOUT PENDING
ALWAYS HAVE MAINTAINED.
>> JUST ABOUT MESSED UP.
>> I GUARANTEE IT.
I GUARANTEE THERE IS NO
POLITICAL INFLUENCE IN ANY
INVESTIGATION CONDUCTED BY THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OR THE FBI,
NOT JUST IN THIS CASE, BUT IN
ANY CASE.
>> Shannon: DO YOU TAKE HIM AT
HIS WORD THERE?
>> NO.
>> Shannon: OKAY.
>> AND I DIDN'T TAKE HIM AT HIS
WORD WHEN HE SAID IT AND IT
DIDN'T TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD
BEFORE THESE TEXTS CAME OUT
BECAUSE THERE WERE OTHER TEXT
FROM PUTIN AND STRZOK TALKING
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT GOING EASY ON
HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE SHE
MIGHT BE ELECTED PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES.
THIS LATEST ROUND OF TEXT,
AGAIN, SEEMS TO BE ALMOST
IRRELEVANT.
I THINK IT'S THE EARLIER TEXT
THAT MAKE MORE OF A DIFFERENCE
WITH REGARDS TO THE HILLARY
INVESTIGATION.
>> Shannon: WE ARE GETTING
INFORMATION THAT RELATES TO THE
FISA WARRANTS WITH REGARDS TO
THE DOSSIER, LOOKING INTO CARTER
PAGE.
IT WOULD GOTTEN A LOT MORE
INFORMATION NOW FROM THIS MEMO
THAT CAME FROM SENATORS GRASSLEY
AND GRAHAM OUTLINING NOT ONLY
WHAT WE HAVE HEARD IN THE HOUSE,
BUT IT SEEMS TO ADD DETAILS OF
THAT AND SOME TEXTURE TO THAT AS
WELL.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THOSE
REVELATIONS?
THEY DON'T SEEM NEW, BUT THEY
SEEM LIKE THEY SEEM TO BOLSTER
THE LATER MEMO THAT CAME OUT
FROM THE HOUSE INTEL COMMITTEE.
>> IF THEY DO AT SOME DEPTH OF
ACCUSATION AND ALLEGATION TO THE
THERE ARE HILLARY CLINTON
ADVOCATES, FRIENDS WERE IN LIBYA
WHO WERE FOLLOWING INFORMATION
TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT AFTER
HILLARY LEFT, BUT THERE WERE
STILL PEOPLE SHE'D WORKED WITH.
THE STATE DEPARTMENT WAS THEN
FUNNELING THAT INFORMATION TO
CHRISTOPHER STEELE WHO WAS THEN
PRACTICING THAT INFORMATION AND
HANDING IT OVER TO THE FBI.
IF THAT'S THE CASE IT LOOKS LIKE
THE STATE DEPARTMENT WAS BEING
USED AS A GO-BETWEEN FOR BAD
INFORMATION PUSHED FORWARD BY
HILLARY CLINTON ALLIES,
INCLUDING PERHAPS SIDNEY
BLUMENTHAL IF TREY GOWDY'S
IMPLICATION MEANS ANYTHING.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN ONE OF
TWO THINGS COULD BE TRUE.
EITHER THERE COULD BE SOME SORT
OF CORRUPTION INSIDE THE FBI,
FISA WARRANTS ON CARTER PAGE OUT
OF SUSPICION AND BASICALLY JUST
GIN SOMETHING UP.
THE OTHER POSSIBILITY IS THEY
WERE ACTUALLY SUSPICIOUS OF
DRUM, THEY WERE ACTUALLY
SUSPICIOUS OF CARTER PAGE AND
THEY DECIDED TO CUT A FEW
CORNERS AND USE INFORMATION THEY
DIDN'T KNOW WAS COMPLETELY GOOD
IN GETTING THE CARTER PAGE
APPLICATION.
THEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BROADER
PROBLEM WITH FISA APPLICATIONS
AND FISA COURTS NOT JUST WITH
REGARD TO THIS SPECIFIC
APPLICATION.
>> Shannon: WE ARE ALL HOPING
WE GET THOSE APPLICATIONS SOME
POINT BECAUSE IT WOULD CLEAR UP
A LOT.
MEANWHILE, YOU DON'T THINK IT
WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THE
NOW MOVING FORWARD WITH HIS
INVESTIGATION.
YOU SAID THIS.
YOU SAID NO LAWYER INCLUDING JOE
PESCI IN MY COUSIN VINNY WITH
THE FULL ON CLOWN VELVET SUIT,
WHICH IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
VISUALS EVER, WOULD ALLOW
PRESIDENT TRUMP TO GET INTO A
ROOM WITH ROBERT MUELLER.
IT WOULD BE THE HEIGHT OF
STUPIDITY TO DO THIS, BUT HE IS
CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO DO IT.
YOU KNOW THAT.
>> OF THE LAWYERS HAVE TO TAKE
THEM DOWN TO THE BASEMENT OF THE
WHITE HOUSE AND PHYSICALLY CHAIN
HIM UP TO PREVENT HIM FROM
TALKING TO MUELLER, I WOULD
RECOMMEND THAT BE ON THE TABLE
SO LONG AS THEY DON'T VIOLATE
HIS CONSENT IN ANY WAY BECAUSE
THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL.
IT WOULD BE SUCH A MISTAKE AS A
LAWYER.
IF IT WOULD BE SUCH A MISTAKE OF
ASSUMING LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP,
WHO LIKES DIPLOPIA, LIKE SO
EXAGGERATE, WHO LIKES TO SAY
EVERYTHING IS THE BIGGEST, THE
STRONGEST, THE BEST COMEDY YOU
JUST, THE MOST INCREDIBLE.
BUT THAT IN FRONT OF A TRAINED
INVESTIGATOR LIKE ROBERT
MUELLER, WHO WAS GOING TO SIT
THERE AND TRY TO PICK APART
STATEMENTS.
BILL CLINTON WAS A VERY GOOD
LAWYER AND A VERY SMART GUY WHEN
IT CAME TO MANIPULATING LANGUAGE
AND HE GOT CAUGHT IN A PERJURY
TRAP BY SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR.
IT'S NOT HARD TO SEE HOW
OBSTRUCTION DROP BY THE FBI.
>> Shannon: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
BY THE WAY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO