SHANNON?
>> Shannon: THANKS, KRISTIN.
THANK YOU.
LIVE AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
SO THE STRONGER THAN EXPECTED
SHOWING AT THE PRESIDENT'S FUND
RAISER INSPIED OF THE
CONDEMNATION OF CONSERVATIVES
MAY LOOK LIKE THE UNEASE.
VICTOR DAVIS HANSON PUTS IT
TONIGHT IN AN OP-ED, HE SAID ALL
REFLECT A LACK OF PROGRESSIVE
CONFIDENCE THAT THEY CAN VOTE
TRUMP OUT OF OFFICE IN THE NEXT
ELECTION AND INSTEAD SEEK TO USE
EXTRAORDINARY MEANS TO ABORT HIS
PRESIDENCY.
JOINING ME NOW,DAY BROWN AND
DINESH D'SOUZA.
AND WE SAW THESE COMMENTS FROM
DONNIE DEUTSCHE.
HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.
>> YOU CAN'T SAY, WELL, I LIKE
HIS ECONOMIC POLICY AND WHATNOT.
BUT I DISAGREE -- YOU OWN IT.
YOU OWN THE BLOOD.
YOU OWN CHARLOTTESVILLE.
THAT'S WHAT SWING VOTERS HAVE
GOT TO UNDERSTAND AND BE SHAMED
INTO.
>> DINESH, YOUR REACTION.
>> AMERICAN POLITICS IS ENTERING
A DANGEROUS PHASE THAT I HAVEN'T
SEEN IN MY ADULT LIFETIME.
IT'S A PHASE IN WHICH DISCUSSION
AND DEBATE IS REPLACED WITH
THREATS AND INTIMIDATION.
THOSE CAN EXKA LAT
THOSE CAN EX K LAT
THOSE CAN EX KA AT
THOSE CAN EX KA LAI
THOSE CAN EXKAA LAI
THOSE CAN EXKA LLAI
THOSE CAN EXKA LATI
THOSE CAN EXKA LATE -- ESCALATE
QUICKLY.
WE'VE SEEN IT IN EUROPE WHERE IT
TURNS INTO BLOWS AND FIGHTS IN
THE STREETS.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT WHERE OUR
POLITICS IS GOING.
THIS IS A CASE WHERE WHEN ONE
SIDE STARTS, THE OTHER SIDE HAS
TO RESPOND.
THE TRUMPSTERS WON'T TAKE THIS
LYING DOWN.
SOON THEY'LL RELEASE JOAQUIN'S
FAMILY ADDRESSES.
THIS IS A GAME THAT TWO PEOPLE
CAN PLAY.
>> Shannon: DO YOU WORRY THAT
THE DEMOCRATS FACE BACKLASH?
THEY'RE PLAYING WITH FIRE HERE.
I THINK OF HILLARY CLINTON
TALKING ABOUT THE BASKET OF
DEPLORABLES.
PEOPLE STARTED TO SAY LISTEN,
YOU'VE COMPLETELY DISRESPECTED
ME.
WHY WOULD I THINK ABOUT VOTING
FOR YOU.
NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE SAYING IF YOU
VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENT, YOU'RE A
WHITE SUPREMACIST.
ARE YOU GOING TO ALIENATE HALF
THE COUNTRY?
>> YEAH, I REJECT THAT PREMISE.
IF YOU LOOK AT 2018, WHEN
DEMOCRATS TOOK BACK THE HOUSE,
THEY DID THAT BY WINNING IN
PERSUADING HEARTS AND MINDS AND
FOLKS THAT VOTED FOR THE
PRESIDENT IN 2016.
SO THERE'S A PROVEN PATH HERE
WHERE IF YOU MAKE THE BEST
ARGUMENT AND YOU COME AT IT FROM
A PERSPECTIVE OF YOUR VALUES AND
WHAT I STAND FOR AS A
CANDIDATE -- AND I AGREE WITH
DINESH.
DEBATE IS THE HEALTHY WAY TO GO.
BUT DEMOCRATS CAN WIN ON THE
MERITS.
>> Shannon: BUT CALLING PEOPLE
WHITE SUPREMACIST, IS THAT
DEBATING THINGS ON THE MERITS OR
IS THAT GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF
PEOPLE SAYING LISTEN, I'M
NOTHING CLOSE TO THAT.
NOW THAT YOU LABELLED ME THAT
WAY, I WON'T LISTEN TO ANYTHING
ELSE YOU SAY?
>> THAT'S DIRECTED AT ME.
I'M SORRY, DINESH.
>> I WAS SAYING WE'VE HAD TWO
MASS SHOOTINGS.
IN ONE CASE, THERE WAS A GUY
THAT WAS ANTI-IMMIGRANT A WHITE
SUPREMACIST.
THAT WAS PART OF HIS MOTIVE.
HE WAS PROGRESSIVE ON OTHER
ISSUES.
WHITE SUPREMACIST WAS PART OF
THE MIX.
THE OTHER ONE WOULD VOTE FOR
ELIZABETH WARREN AND PRO ANTIFA.
BUT WE HEAR VERY LITTLE ABOUT
THAT SHOOTER.
THERE'S A BROADER FORCE AT WORK
HERE AND WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE
ANTIFA HAS PRODUCED ITS FIRST
MASS KILLER.
>> PART OF THE DISTINCTION AND
THE COVERAGE, THE KILLER IN
TEXAS PUBLISHED A MANIFESTO.
WE HAVE THE WRITTEN BODY OF WORK
FROM WHICH WE CAN EXAMINE
MOTIVATION.
>> Shannon: PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW
AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE TAKEN
TIME -- A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY I
WON'T READ A WORD.
I GET THAT BUT HE'S WORRIED
ABOUT CORPORATE PROFITS AND NOT
RIGHT LEANING ISSUES.
CLEARLY HE HAD AN ISSUE WITH
RACE.
THERE WAS OTHER STUFF THAT HAS
TO BE CONSIDERED IF YOU READ IT.
>> I'LL GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL
QUESTION.
THE NOTION OF PAINTING IN BROAD
STROKES ANYBODY THAT VOTED FOR
THE PRESIDENT IS A WHITE
SUPREMACIST, OF COURSE NOT.
IT'S RIDICULOUS.
THE NUANCE IS LOST HERE.
LET'S HAVE IT NOW.
THE POINT IS THAT WHEN YOU SPEAK
IN RED RICK AND WHEN THE
PRESIDENT SPEAKS IN RHETORIC
THAT IS RACIALIZED AND WHITE
SUPREMACISTS SAYING WE IDENTIFY
WITH THIS PRESIDENT, HE'S
SPEAKING ON OUR BEHALF, THAT'S
THE PROBLEM.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THE PRESIDENT
OUTRIGHT CONDEMNED THAT
FOLLOWING THE SHOOTINGS.
WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO IN TONING
DOWN THAT RHETORIC AND MAKING IT
CLEAR THAT WHITE SUPREMACISTS
HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY AT
LARGE.
>> Shannon: FINALLY TO YOU,
DINESH.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
POINT OUT THAT THIS SO-CALLED
RACIALIZED RHETORIC THAT YOU'RE
ACCUSING TRUMP OF USING RELIES
ON CONFLATING A COUPLE OF
DISTINCTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, CONFLATING THE
DISSTING -- DISTINCTION OF
IMMIGRANTS.
I'M A LEGAL IMMIGRANT.
INFESTATION WAS THE TERM ELIJAH
CUMMINGS USED ABOUT HIS OWN
DISTRICT.
INFESTATION REFERS TO A STATE OF
THINGS, WHEN THINGS ARE SO BAD.
YOU THINK THAT TRUMP WOULD
HESITATE TO CALL SAN FRANCISCO
NANCY PELOSI'S DISTRICT, FOR
EXAMPLE, INFESTED WITH THE SAME
KIND OF TERRIBLE SCHOOLS AND
SAME KIND OF TRASH --
>> Shannon: LET'S LET DINESH
FINISH AND WE HAVE TO GO.
>> WELL, THE POINT I'M TRYING TO
MAKE IS THAT TRUMP'S ATTACKS ARE
POLITICAL.
THEY'RE NOT RACIAL.
HE ATTACKS WITH THE SAME GLEE OF
PEOPLE THAT ARE WHITE OR BLACK
OR WHATEVER.
THERE'S A CERTAIN KIND OF
PROMISCUITY IN TRUMP.