OFFICIALS AND REPLACE THEM WITH
PUPPETS.
AGAIN, THIS IS ALREADY BEGUN.
>> I WANT TO BRING IN IGOR
NOVAKOV, FORMER ADVISER TO
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS
MORNING: LET'S START WITH OUR
LAST POINT FROM OUR SECRETARY OF
STATE ANTONY BLINKEN THERE.
HE SAYS THAT THIS KIDNAPPING HAS
ALREADY STARTED.
IN FACT, YOUR FORMER BOSS SAID
THIS WEEK THAT THE MAYOR OF
MARIUPOL WAS FLEED ON WEDNESDAY
AFTER RUSSIAN FORCES CAPTURED
HIM LAST WEEK.
HOW MUCH OF A CONCERN IS THIS
RIGHT NOW?
>> WELL, IT IS A CONCERN, BUT TO
ME THE MORE IMPORTANT KIND OF
THING HERE IS IT'S A TELLTALE
SIGN OF TWO REALLY IMPORTANT
THINGS.
IT SHOWCASES THE REAL SUPPORT
THAT RUSSIA HAS IN UKRAINE.
IF THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH
SUPPORT AS THEY CLAIMED, IF
UKRAINE HAD BEEN A PRO-RUSSIAN
COUNTRY THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO DO
THAT.
THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO REPLACE
POPULAR DEMOCRATIC ELECTED
LEADERS AND REPLACE THEM WITH
STOOGES.
THAT'S THE IF I THINK, AND THE
SECOND THING, IT'S ACTUAL A
TELLTALE SIGN OF A FAILURE FAR
GREATER THAN PUTIN'S MILITARY
FAILURE, AND THAT'S A FAILURE OF
HIS PROPAGANDA MACHINE.
FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE
GROUND, PUTIN FELL FOR HIS OWN
LIE, HE EXPECTED UKRAINIANS TO
WELCOME HIS ARMY WITH FLOWERS,
AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE
OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY
THAT HE ASSIGNS TO ACHIEVE THAT
RESULT, MUST BE SEWN BY PEOPLE
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE.
>> ON THAT LAST POINT, WHY WOULD
PUTIN HAVE EXPECTED THAT?
WHY WOULD HE HAVE EXPECTED THAT
THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE WOULD HAVE
BOUGHT THE TRASH THAT HE'S
TRYING TO PEDDLE?
>> WELL, I DON'T THINK HE
EXPECTS THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE TO
BUY THE ATROCITIES.
I THINK THAT'S HIS NATURAL
REACTION TO THE DISAPPOINTMENT
AND THE RAGE CAUSED BY THE FACT
THAT HE WASN'T WELCOMED WITH
FLOWERS, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW,
HIS INITIAL DELUSION ABOUT
UKRAINIANS WANTING TO BE A PART
OF RUSSIA HAS A LOT TO DO WITH
THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH
HIS ROOTS HE IS A KGB AGENT,
HE'S A PRODUCT OF THE SOVIET
SYSTEM.
HE'S A PRODUCT OF THE TERROR
SYSTEM, AND HE KIND OF DR HE-- H
USES THE MIXTURE OF VIOLENCE AND
PROPAGANDA TO GET HIS END
RESULT.
I THINK THE FAILURE HERE IS HE
WAS SOLD BY HIS INNER CIRCLE ON
THAT END RESULT, AND THEY CLAIM
IT WAS ACHIEVED BUT THERE WAS
NOTHING FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH,
AND THE FUNNY PART IS HE'S
ACTUALLY MAKING THAT MISTAKE FOR
THE SECOND TIME IN UKRAINE.
HE EXPECTED, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
NOT TO REVOLT AGAINST THE UNDER
PRIVILEGED OR TO WELCOME HIM
BACK IN 2014, AND THAT DIDN'T
HAPPEN EITHER.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
SOMETHING THAT'S GETTING A LOT
OF ATTENTION RIGHT NOW ON
THURSDAY, AS YOU KNOW, ARNOLD
SCHWARZENEGGER POSTED THIS VIDEO
SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE
OF RUSSIA.
HE TRIED TO CUT THROUGH SOME OF
THAT PROPAGANDA THAT YOU WERE
JUST TALKING ABOUT AND TELL THEM
THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY
HAPPENING IN UKRAINE.
THIS IS PART OF WHAT HE SAID.
>> I KNOW THAT THE RUSSIAN
PEOPLE AWARE THINGS ARE
HAPPENING.
I URGE THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE AND
THE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS IN UKRAINE
TO UNDERSTAND THE PROPAGANDA AND
THE DISINFORMATION THAT YOU'RE
BEING TOLD.
I ASK YOU TO HELP ME SPREAD THE
TRUTH.
>> SPEAKING IN ENGLISH, SUB
TITLED IN RUSSIAN, ONE THING TO
NOTE, VERY IMPORTANT AT LAST
CHECK, THE OFFICIAL RUSSIAN
PRESIDENT TWITTER ACCOUNT ONLY
FOLLOWS 22 ACCOUNTS.
ONE OF THOSE ACCOUNTS IS ARNOLD
SCHWARZENEGGER, SO HE'S
OBVIOUSLY VERY POPULAR IN RUSSIA
AND THROUGHOUT EASTERN EUROPE.
HOW IMPORTANT CHSWAS THAT
STATEMENT, IGOR, AND DID IT GET
THROUGH.
>> FIRST OF ALL, YES, IT DID GET
THROUGH.
ITst
IT'S TRENDING ON RUSSIAN
TWITTER, AND WE MONITOR THINGS
LIKE THAT.
I THINK THERE ARE NO WORDS TO
DESCRIBE HOW IMPORTANT THIS WAS.
I THINK THIS WAS AN "I HAVE A
DREAM" MOMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE
FUTURE OF, YOU KNOW, THE NEW
GLOBAL SECURITY ARCHITECTURE.
YOU KNOW, ARNOLD TOOK THE
RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE, YOU
KNOW, THE PEOPLE OF RUSSIA, A
SENSE OF BELONGING TO A
COMMUNITY THAT OFFERS SOMETHING
DIFFERENT FROM THE GENOCIDE OR
THE MANIACAL STUFF SOLD TO THEM
BY THE KREMLIN ICHLT URGE.
I STRONGLY URGE ANYONE WITH A
FAN BASE IN RUSSIA TO DO THE
SAME.
YOU KNOW, THE ONLY WAY TO STOP
THIS TERRIBLE TRAGEDY FOR GOOD
WOULD BE TO UNDERMINE THE
RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA, DOMESTIC
RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A
CHALLENGE TO DO IT, SO I'LL DO
MY PART AS WELL.
I THINK WE NEED TO NOMINATE MORE
PEOPLE TO KIND OF DO THE SAME,
AND FOLLOW ARNOLD'S LEAD, SO
I'LL PROBABLY NOMINATE, I'LL GO
AFTER MY FAVORITES, FIRST OF
ALL, HENRY ROLLINS, I WOULD LOVE
TO SEE HIM DO IT I CAN'T BELIEVE
ANY RUSSIAN FAN OF HENRY ROLLINS
WOULD SUPPORT THE WAR.
21 PILOTS, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY,
BANKSY.
IF AT LEAST 50% OF CELEBRITIES
DO THE SAME, IF THEY OPEN
TELEGRAM CHANNELS, AND IF THEY
ADDRESS THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE, AND
EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT THEY HAVE
BEEN SOLD LIES, THEY ARE BEING
MADE AGAINST THEIR WILL A PART
OF SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT, THAT
WOULD CAUSE ENOUGH PRESSURE FOR
PUTIN TO, IF NOT LOSE HIS POWER,
THEN AT LEAST KIND OF SLOW DOWN
A BIT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE
ONLY GROUP OF PEOPLE HE'S REALLY
AFRAID OF, FROM HIS INNER CIRCLE
THAT WILL BETRAY HIM EVENTUALLY
IS THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE, AND
THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE THE
CONVERSATION.
>> IGOR NOVIKOV, YOU MAKE A LOT