UP PERFECTLY FOR OUR NEXT GUEST.
PETE: THAT'S RIGHT MARK LEVIN
HOST OF LIFE, LIBERTY AND LAVING
ON THIS NETWORK AS WELL AS RADIO
PROGRAM MARK YOU WERE ON OUR
PROGRAM TWO YEARS AGO ON FOX &
FRIENDS WEEKEND SAYING YOU
BELIEVED THAT THE OBAMA TEAM WAS
SPYING ON THE TRUMP TEAM, NO ONE
WAS TALKING ABOUT IT THEN, YOU
WERE.
HERE WE ARE TODAY WITH THE
MUELLER REPORT, 675 DAYS LATER.
YOUR TAKE ON WHERE WE ARE.
>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT?
TWO YEARS AGO ALL I DID IS I
PULLED TOGETHER MEDIA REPORTS.
MEDIA REPORTS, BECAUSE THE FBI
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
WERE LEAKING TO THE MEDIA.
HOW ELSE WOULD WE KNOW ABOUT A
TWO FISA REQUESTS?
HOW ELSE WOULD WE KNOW THAT THE
INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES WERE UN
MASKSING HOW ELSE WOULD WE
KNOW ANY OF THESE THINGS AND THE
REASON IS THEY WERE LEAKING AT
THE FBI AND IT'S A FACT THEY
WERE LEAKING AT THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE NOW WE KNOW IT'S A
FACT AND SO ALL I DID IS PUT
TOGETHER THE DIFFERENT EXHIBITS
FROM THE DIFFERENT MEDIA OUTLETS
INCLUDING THE NEW YORK TIMES,
AND SO FORTH, AND THE GENERAL
PARAMETERS OF THIS WERE LAID OUT
AND THEY WERE STUNNING AT THE
TIME AND I MIGHT ADD THERE WAS A
CHORUS OF MEDIA ATTACKING ME AS
A CONSPIRACY THEORIST AND
EVERYTHING, HOW CAN I BE A
CONSPIRACY THEORIST WHEN I'M
READING THEIR REPORTING?
KATIE: [LAUGHTER]
>> WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS MEDIA
GATE.
NOW WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT?
WE'VE HAD THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF STORIES ON CABLE TV
, ON NETWORK TV, IN THE NEW
YORK TIMES, WASHINGTON POSTSES,
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS LYING TO US
ABOUT CONSPIRACIES, INDICTMENTS,
LYING TO US ABOUT OBSTRUCTION
AND MEETINGS THAT TOOK PLACE.
JUST SAID STUFF BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT BY THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION PREVIOUSLY, SAID
STUFF BY THE BUREAUCRACY, STUFF
BY THE HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN
LIKE THE DOSSIER, WE HAD AN IRON
TRIANGLE, THE HILLARY CAMPAIGN,
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THE FBI
AND THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES
AGENCIES AND THE MEDIA AND THE
MEDIA WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO WATCH
THE POWERFUL AND THE GOVERNMENT,
THREW IN WITH THIS GOVERNMENT IN
ORDER TO TAKE OUT DONALD TRUMP.
NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FEW
THINGS BECAUSE IT'S GETTING A
LITTLE CONVOLUTED WITH THE
ENDLESS SPECULATION OUT THERE.
BILL BARR IS NOT PART OF THE
POSTAL SERVICE WHERE HE PICKS UP
THE REPORT AND GIVES IT TO
CONGRESS.
THIS REGULATION HAS BEEN IN
PLACE FOR 20 YEARS SINCE THE
CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.
HIS JOB IS TO LOOK AT THIS
REPORT, TO MAKE SURE THERE ISN'T
SECRET 60 GRAND JURY INFORMATION
WHICH LEGALLY IS NOT PERMITTED
TO BE MADE PUBLIC.
IT'S HIS JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT
FBI RAW NOTES 301S ARE NOT
DISTRIBUTED PUBLICLY.
IT'S HIS JOB TO MAKE SURE
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION IS NOT
DISTRIBUTED PUBLICLY, AND
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT'S HIS JOB
TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T
SMEARED WHO HAVEN'T BEEN CHARGED
BILL BARR AND THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH THEY'RE NOT THE
IMPEACHMENT ARM OF THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE DEMOCRAT
S.
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL REPORT TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS NOT AN
IMPEACHMENT REPORT FOR THE HOUSE
DEMOCRATS.
LET ME REMIND YOU ABOUT LEON DWA
RSKI, THE WATER GATE SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR THEY LIKE TO TALK
ABOUT WATERGATE.
SO DO I.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE WATER
GATE REPORT WAS UNDER SEAL
UNTIL JUST A FEW YEARS AGO AND
HERE IS WHY.
THIS IS A QUOTE IF WE HAVE 30
SECONDS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
"FOR THE WHITEWATER, EXCUSE ME,
FOR THE WATERGATE SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR TO MAKE PUBLIC THE
EVIDENCE IT GATHERED CONCERNING
THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND OTHERS
WHO WERE NOT CHARGED WITH
CRIMINAL OFFENSES WILL BE TO ADD
ANOTHER ABUSE OF POWER TO THOSE
THAT LED TO THE CREATION OF THE
SPECIAL PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE.
THE FEDERAL RULES OF CRIMINAL
PROCEDURE PROHIBIT THE
DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION
PRESENTED TO A GRAND JURY EXCEPT
AS NECESSARY IN THE COURSE OF
CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS, MOST
IMPORTANT, IN TERMS OF THE
AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEM
OF GOVERNMENT, IS THE NOTION OF
FUNDAMENTAL FAIRNESS FOR THOSE
WHO AFTER INVESTIGATION HAVE NOT
BEEN CHARGED WITH ANY CRIMINAL
MISCONDUCT.
THIS CONSIDERATION, HE WROTE, IS
PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR A
SPECIAL PROSECUTOR WHOSE
INDEPENDENCE CONSIDERABLY
REDUCES HIS ACCOUNTABILITY AND
WHO MUST BE UNUSUALLY SENSITIVE
TO POSSIBLE ABUSES OF ITS POWER.
IT IS A BASIC AXIOM OF OUR
SYSTEM OF JUSTICE THAT EVERY MAN
IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
AFTER JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS,
DESIGNED TO PROTECT HIS RIGHTS
TO ENSURE A FAIR ADJUDICATION OF
THE CHARGES AGAINST HIM, WHERE
NO SUCH CHARGES ARE BROUGHT.
IT WILL BE A RESPONSIBLE AND
UNETHICAL FOR A PROSECUTOR TO
ISSUE A REPORT SUGGESTING
CRIMINAL CONDUCT ON THE PART OF
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS NO
EFFECTIVE MEANS OF CHALLENGING
THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HIM OR
OF REQUIRING THE PROSECUTOR TO
ESTABLISH CHARGES BEYOND A
REASONABLE DOUBT."
NOW, WHAT ARE THE DEMOCRATS
DOING?
THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOW TRYING TO
INTERFERE WITH A CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM, TRYING TO
UNDERMINE EXACTLY WHAT THIS
PROSECUTOR SAID DURING WATERGATE
, TRYING TO UNDERMINE
THE REGULATIONS THAT HAD BEEN IN
EXISTENCE, THE LAW, FOR 20 YEARS
THEY'RE THREATENING THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL WITH SUBPOENAS, THEY'RE
THREATENING THE SPECIAL COUNSEL
WITH SUBPOENAS, THEY'RE
DEMANDING TO ALL OF THIS SECRET
INFORMATION, ALL OF THE INFORM
LYING INFORMATION THEY WANT THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL TO VIOLATE HIS
OATH, TO VIOLATE THE REGULATIONS
A 20 YEAR LAW AND IF THEY GET
THEIR WAY IN THIS CASE THEY CAN
DO IT IN ANY CRIMINAL CASE.
ED: MARK IT CAN GO EVEN DEEPER
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT
FORMER TOP FBI AND CIA OFFICIALS
HAVE SAID FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS
, THEY HAVE CREATED, TRIED
TO CREATE A NARRATIVE THAT SET
THIS UP SUGGESTING THE PRESIDENT
WAS A CRIMINAL.
THIS EN TO THIS AND THEN WE'LL
LET YOU REACT.
>> YOU STILL BELIEVE THE
PRESIDENT COULD BE A RUSSIAS"?
>> I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE.
I THINK THAT'S WHY WE STARTED
OUR INVESTIGATION AND I'M REALLY
ANXIOUS TO SEE WHERE DIRECTOR
MUELLER CONCLUDES THAT.
>> MORE AND MORE, I'VE COME TO
A CONCLUSION THAT AFTER THE
HELSINKI PERFORMANCE AND SINCE,
THAT I REALLY DO WONDER WHETHER
THE RUSSIANS HAVE SOMETHING ON
HIM.
>> I USE THE TERM THAT THIS IS
NOTHING SHORT OF TREASONIST,
BECAUSE IT IS A BE TRAIL OF THE
NATION.
HE IS GIVING AID AND COMFORT TO
THE ENEMY.
ED: WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN TO MCCABE
, CLAPPER AND BRENT ON?
>> FIRST OF ALL THESE MEN ARE
VERY UNAMERICAN.
WHAT THEY'VE SAID IS OUTRAGEOUS,
THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER, YOU HAD
THE FORMER HEAD OF NATIONAL
INTELLIGENCE UNDER OBAMA, THE
FORMER HEAD OF THE CIA UNDER
OBAMA.
A TOP FBI UNDER OBAMA.
THESE THREE MEN SHOULD BE
DRAGGED IN FRONT OF A FEDERAL
GRAND JURY, THEY SHOULD BE
TESTIFYING ABOUT EVERYTHING THEY
DID AND EVERYTHING THEY KNEW
BECAUSE THEY, PARTICULARLY
MCCABE, WAS INVOLVED IN A COO
EFFORT, INVOLVED IN TRYING
TO STOP TRUMP DURING HIS
CAMPAIGN AS WE POINTED OUT TWO
YEARS AGO AND NOW, THEY SINCE
HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TAKE THIS
PRESIDENT OUT AND I DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S IN THIS REPORT AND I
DON'T MUCH GIVE A DAMN WHAT'S IN
THIS REPORT.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THEY
DID NOT INDICT ANYBODY FOR
COLLUSION.
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY?
THERE'S TWO REASONS, THERE'S NO
SUCH CRIME AS COLLUSION AND
NUMBER TWO, WHATEVER IT IS,
NOBODY DID IT.
NOW NOT A SINGLE PERSON,
PROSECUTED FOR COLLUSION.
IF ANYONES GOING TO BE
PROSECUTED FOR COLLUSION,
WHATEVER THAT IS, IT OUGHT TO BE
THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, THE DNC,
IT OUGHT TO BE THAT DAMN LAW
FIRM, AND FUSION GPS AND THOSE
THREE STOOGES THAT YOU JUST SHOW
ED US ON TV.
NOT A SINGLE CRIMINAL STATUTE
WAS EVEN CITED WHEN MUELLER WAS
APPOINTED.
HE VIOLATED HIS OWN REGULATION.
LISTEN, ROSENSTEIN APPOINTS
MUELLER SPECIAL COUNSEL RIGHT TO
INVESTIGATE.
ED: UH-HUH.
HE DOES IT AFTER COMEY IS FIRED
BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
WHO RECOMMENDED THAT COMEY BE
FIRED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES?
ED: ROSENSTEIN.
PETE: YEAH.
>> AND HE RECEIVES THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF ANYTHING
SO STUPID IN YOUR LIFE?
KATIE: [LAUGHTER]
>> NOT A SINGLE STEP LET'S TALK
ABOUT OBSTRUCTION BECAUSE MY
FEAR IS MUELLER WILL THROW A
LITTLE STINK BOMB IN THERE,
OBSTRUCTION.
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
DID THE PRESIDENT WITHHOLD A
SINGLE DOLLAR FROM THIS
INVESTIGATION?
DID THE PRESIDENT STOP ANY
ASPECT OF THIS INVESTIGATION
WHICH WENT WORLDWIDE AND WENT
INTO EVERYTHING YOU CAN POSSIBLY
THINK OF?
WAS THE FBI THWARTED IN ANY
RESPECT?
NO.
THE ONLY PERSON WHO WAS THWARTED
WAS COMEY BECAUSE HE WAS A BAD
COP.
FIRING COMEY, ABSOLUTE
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT BY THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
AND THE PRESIDENT WAS SMART, HE
SAID DO YOU KNOW WHAT MR.
PROSECUTOR?
YOU DON'T GET TO ASK ME ABOUT
PRESIDENTIAL AUTHORITY.
DO YOU KNOW WHY?
NOT BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT WANTED
TO PROTECT HIMSELF.
HE HAD TO PROTECT THE OFFICE OF
THE PRESIDENCY.
IT'S CALLED SEPARATION OF POWER.
DO YOU KNOW WHOSE ACTED MOST
RESPONSIBLY THROUGHOUT THIS
WHOLE THING AND YET IT IS TRASH
ED EVERY DAY?
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
HE DIDN'T TAKE A SINGLE
GOVERNMENTAL ACTION TO STOP THE
FBI AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE DESPITE THE FACT THAT
THE FBI AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE WERE OUT TO STOP HIM.
THIS IS THE GREAT SCANDAL IN
AMERICAN HISTORY AND I MEAN IT.
AND IT'S MEDIA GATE BECAUSE THE
MEDIA THREW IN.
YOU COULDN'T WATCH CNN, MSNBC,
READ NEW YORK TIMES, THE
WASHINGTON POST, QUITE FRANKLY,
THANK GOODNESS FOR FOX, FAIR AND
BALANCED YOUR MORNING PRIMETIME
SHOWS, YOUR NIGHTTIME PRIMETIME
SHOWS WITH OPINION ON BOTH SIDES
. IF IT WASN'T FOR ALL OF THAT,
WE DON'T HAVE ONE WAY IN THIS
COUNTRY WITH THE MEDIA, BUT ONCE
AGAIN, THE MEDIA THREW IN WITH
THE GOVERNMENT, THE MEDIA THREW
IN WITH THE HILLARY
CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE RUSSIANS
THINK TODAY?
PETE: [LAUGHTER]
>> THEY'RE LAUGHING.
KATIE: THEY ARE THINKING THEY
WON'T EXTRADITE THE PEOPLE
CHARGED IN RUSSIA BY THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL ABSOLUTELY FOR SURE.
PETE: MARK LAVING YOU WERE RIGHT
TWO YEARS AGO AND YOU'RE
SPEAKING TRUTH AGAIN TODAY THANK