WATER AND SHELTER.
LET'S BRING IN CAL PERRY LIVE
LVIV, UKRAINE.
CAL, OUR CHRONICLER OF LIFE NOT
JUST IN LVIV, BUT IN UKRAINE.
TELL US WHAT TODAY HAS USHERED
IN.
>> Reporter: SO I THINK DAY 13
AND WE'VE ARRIVED AT THIS POINT
WHERE WE ARRIVE IN ANY CONFLICT
WHERE THINGS OTHER THAN VIOLENCE
ARE STARTING TO KILL PEOPLE.
LAST NIGHT, WE HEARD FROM THE
PRESIDENT AND HE TALKED ABOUT
THIS LITTLE GIRL WHO DIED IN THE
CITY OF MARIUPOL OUT OF
DEHYDRATION.
SHE HADN'T HAD WATER IN SIX
DAYS, HE SAID.
WHILE WE CAN'T INDEPENDENTLY
VERIFY THAT, WE ARE HEARING
THESE STORIES WHERE THEY HAVE
BEEN UNDERSIEGE.
IT IS THE COLD, LACK OF
ELECTRICITY, LACK OF WATER.
THE LIVING CONDITIONS ARE NOW
BECOMING UNLIVABLE.
THE SHELLING IS CONTINUING
AROUND THE COUNTRY.
IN THE NORTH, YOU MENTIONED
SUMI.
5,000 CIVILIANS GOT OUT IN ONE
OF THOSE QUOTE UNQUOTE
HUMANITARIAN CORRIDORS.
THAT IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE
SEEN SUGCCESS ON THAT LEVEL.
THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE IN THE PORT
CITY OF MARIUPOL WHERE THERE WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE A CORRIDOR
LEADING TO UKRAINE AND NOT
RUSSIA AND IT WAS NOT ABLE TO REMAIN OPEN.
REMAIN OPEN.
THE MINISTRY OF DEFENSE SAYS
RUSSIA IS TARGETING CIVILIANS AS
THEY LEAVE TOWN.
WE'RE NOW HEARING FRITIT FROM TH
BRITISH AS WELL.
THEY'RE NOW COMING TO LVIV, BUT
THIS IS A CITY THAT CAN REALLY
NO LONGER HANDLE THINGS.
A CITY WITH A POPULATION OF
700,000 HAS NOW BECOME A
POPULATION OF A MILLION.
300,000 PEOPLE HAVE SORT OF
SETTLED HERE, BUT THERE'S JUST
NO MANY ROOM.
I SPENT PART OF THE DAY AT A
HISTORIC THEATRE HERE WHICH HAS
BECOME A MAKESHIFT SHELTER AND
WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE ON HOW
PEOPLE MAKE THIS DECISION.
HOW DO THEY MAKE THE DECISION TO
LEAVE.
I SPOKE TO A MOTHER OF ONE WHO
WAS HANGING ON FOR HER HUSBAND, BUT THEN BECAME UNTENABLE.
BUT THEN BECAME UNTENABLE.
HERE'S A LITTLE OF HER STORY.
>> WE SAID WE CAN'T LEFT OUR
HUSBANDS THERE.
SO WE MUST LEAVE THEM, BUT THEN
WE HEAR SOME EXPLOSIONS, WE
DECIDED THE BEST FOR CHILDREN TO
GO OUT OF THE WAR.
MAYBE ABROAD.
>> THE OTHER THING THAT HAS
DROPPED HERE IS FOLKS OUT OF
DESPERATION ARE SENDING THEIR
KIDS TO THESE BORDERS ALONE.
THERE'S THIS NOW FAMOUS VIDEO OF
THIS YOUNG BOY WALKING ACROSS TO
SLOVENIA WITH A TAPED NOTE ON
HIM WITH A PHONE NUMBER AND HE
WALKED LIKE FOUR KILOMETERS TO
GET THERE.
WE'RE HEARING MORE AND MORE OF
THESE STORIES ATS THE SITUATION
BECOMES MORE DESPERATE AND
FAMILIES BECOME SEPARATED.
SOME ARE CHOOSING TO STAY AND
SOME ARE CHOOSING TO LEAVE.
SOME ARE LEAVING BECAUSE THEY
SEE RUSSIAN FORCES.
THE WOMAN IN THAT INTERVIEW
HEARD RUSSIAN FORCES MOVING IN
ON HER NEIGHBORHOOD.
SHE WAS THE FIRST PERSON I SPOKE
TO WHO WAS PHYSICALLY PUSHED BY
RUSSIAN SOLDIERS OUT OF HER
NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAD TO FLEE
HERE.
>> IT'S THE HORRIFIC REALITY
THAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO US.
THESE WOMEN ARE, SHE SAID THERE,
HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THEIR
HUSBANDS AND THE POTENTIAL
SURVIVAL OF THEIR CHILDREN.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU HEAR FROM
MANY WOMEN?
IS THAT A FAMILIAR STORY IN
LVIV?
>> YES.
AND THERE'S A CONVERSATION
HAPPENING AMONGST MOTHERS OF HOW
TO EXPLAIN IT TO THEIR CHILDREN. AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT
AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT
HITS HOME.
STRANGELY BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T
BEEN TOLD, LOOK, DAD HAS STAYED
BEHIND AND HE'S GOING TO FIGHT
THE PEOPLE THAT FORCED US OUT OF
OUR HOME AND THE EXPLOSIONS ARE
STILL GOING ON THERE.
SO YOU HAVE THIS VERY NATURAL
THING WHERE YOU HAVE MOTHERS
TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR KIDS BY
NOT REALLY FILLING THEM IN
TOTALLY ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND
JUST TRYING TO GET THEM TO THAT
NEXT SPOT.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S
HORRIFIC.
THIS IS, AND YOU KNOW, I SORT OF
LED BY SAYING DAY 13.
A DAY WHERE WE CAN NOW MARK
WHERE PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM
OTHER THINGS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE STORY
MOVING FORWARD.
2 MILLION REFUGEES, MORE THAN
HALF CHILDREN.
YOUR POINT ABOUT THE WEATHER IS
VITALLY IMPORTANT.
THESE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO
ARE SLEEPING OUTSIDE.
THERE REALLY IS NO END IN SIGHT.
EVEN IF YOU'RE IN AN OUTDOOR
EVERY
ENCAMPMENT, YOU COULD BE THERE
FOR MONTHS.
IF THE FIGHTING STOPPED TODAY,
YOU COULD BE THERE FOR MONTHS OR
YEARS BECAUSE THE SITUATION HAS
DETERIORATED SO QUICKLY THAT THE
HUMANITARIAN CRISIS WILL LAST
FOR A LONG TIME TO COME.
>> SO MUCH HUMAN SUFFERING.
FAMILIES RIPPED APART.
I THINK HISTORIANS ARE STILL
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT
OF WORLD WAR II ON BOMBED
CITIES, ON CHILDREN IN THE U.K.
FOR EXAMPLE WHO SHELTERED WITH
THEIR PARENTS VERSUS CHILDREN
WHO WERE SENT OUTSIDE OF THE
CITIES.
THIS PRESIDENT ENINVOKING THAT
VERY MEMORY TODAY.
THAT HARDENED SCAR TISSUE AROUND
BRITAIN'S MEMORIES OF WORLD WAR
II IN THAT SPEECH.
TELL ME IF PEOPLE AROUND THE
COUNTRY HEARD IT.
IF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE THERE?
>> ESPECIALLY HERE IN LVIV, SO
THIS IS A CITY THAT IS NEVER FAR
FROM ITS WORLD WAR II HISTORY.
IT WAS OCCUPIED FIRST BY THE
GERMANS THEN THE RUSSIANS AND
WHEN THE RUSSIANS WITHDREW FROM
THIS CITY, THEY MASSACRED
EVERYBODY IN THE PRISONS.
IT'S A THING THAT IS A PART OF
THIS CITY'S HISTORY.
AND SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE AND
THEY'RE CLOSER TO THEIR HISTORY
IN MANY WAYS HERE IN EUROPE
BECAUSE GEOGRAPHICALLY, IT'S
STILL IN YOUR FACE.
YOU HAVE THE STATUES FROM WORLD
WAR I THAT WERE THEN DAMAGED BY
WORLD WAR II.
YOU HAVE A UNESCO HERITAGE SITE
IN THIS CITY BEHIND ME WHERE THE
STATUES FROM THE 15th AND 16th
CENTURY ARE BEING WRAPPED UP TO
BE MOVED AGAIN.
THEY HAVE BEEN MOVED NOW TWICE
BEFORE WORLD WAR 1 AND WORLD WAR
II.
SO YOU SEE THIS HAPPENING AGAIN
AND YOU HEAR IT FROM THE
PRESIDENT AND HE IS TAPPING INTO
THIS SENTIMENT.
HE'S TAPPING THIS IDEA THAT
UKRAINE IS FIGHTING ON BEHALF OF
EUROPE.
IS FIGHTING ON BEHALF OF THE
WORLD.
IS FIGHTING A FIGHT AGAINST
PUTIN HERE SO THAT HE DOESN'T
NEED TO BE FOUGHT THERE.
AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS
RALLIED PEOPLE TO THE FRONT.
IT HAS RALLIED THEM TO THE
FIGHT.
I DO THINK, HOWEVER, THAT WHILE
WE TALK ABOUT HOW THE RUSSIANS
HAVE BEEN SLOWED DOWN AND THAT
WE TALK ABOUT HOW THE RUSSIANS
HAVE BEEN BOGGED DOWN, THEY'RE
STILL COMING AND SHELLING THESE
CITIES AND CIVILIANS ARE STILL
DYING AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE
PUTIN IS ON ANYONE ELSE'S
TIMETABLE BUT HIS OWN AND YOU'RE
STARTING TO HEAR THAT FROM
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY WHO TALKED
MORE AND MORE ABOUT THE NEED FOR
A NO FLY ZONE, A NEED FOR THE
WEST TO STEP IT UP.
>> LET ME SHOW YOU SOME SOUND.
YOU TALKED YESTERDAY ABOUT THE
UKRAINIAN MOOD TURNING FROM
SHOCK AND HORROR AND GRIEF TO
ANGER AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND
IF THE WEST IS IN THEIR SIGHTS
IN TERMS OF FEELING FRUSTRATED
THAT WE'RE NOT DOING MORE.
LET ME PLAY IN FIRST.
THIS IS HANNAH HOPKA.
>> CANNOT JUST WATCH HOW MANY
UKRAINIANS ARE DYING AND NOT
STAND BY THEM.
I'M ASKING CONGRESS PLEASE HELP
OUR NATION.
FOR MOLDOVA, FOR GEORGIA.
I DON'T WHY, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO
POLICE EVERYBODY.
THIS IS ABOUT HUMANITY.
>> OF COURSE, FORMER UKRAINIAN
PRIME MINISTER ON THE AIR WITH
OUR COLLEAGUE KATY TUR, AN
EMOTIONAL INTERVIEW, BUT IT DOES
SEEM TO BE SPILLING OVER AND I
WONDER WHAT EVIDENCE YOU SEE OF
THAT THERE.
>> WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE WHO
HAVE COME FROM KHARKIV, I KNOW
THEY'RE GOING TO CRY.
LIKE, I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO
BREAK DOWN BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN
TO ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT I KNOW
WHAT THEY SAW IS AS THE MAYOR
HAS SAID, IT'S HELL ON EARTH.
PEOPLE CAME ABOVEGROUND IN
KHARKIV AND MUCH OF THE CITY WAS
FLATTENED.
THAT'S TRUE IN MARIUPOL.
IT'S BECOMING TRUE IN KYIV AND
IN THE OUTSKIRTS OF KYIV.
AND SO YOU TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT
THIS AND YOU SAY, BUT WHAT ABOUT
WORLD WAR III?
WHAT HAPPENS IF NATO HITS RUSSIA
AND THERE'S WORLD WAR III?
YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALREADY ARRIVED
IN THIS PERSON'S EYES AND ON
THESE PEOPLE'S FACES BECAUSE FOR
THEM, IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE
NIGHT AND THEY HAD 20 MINUTES TO
LEAVE AND THEY HAD TO GRAB THEIR
THINGS AND THEIR KIDS AND PUT
THEM IN A CAR AND GO TO A TRAIN
STATION AND ALL ALONG THE WAY,
BOMBS WERE FALLING AND GUNS WERE
GOING OFF AND PEOPLE WERE DYING
AROUND THEM.
BY THE TIME THEY GET HERE,
THEY'RE SO SHELL SHOCKED AND
HAVE HAD SUCH A HELLISH ORDEAL
AND THEY'RE FEELING VERY LUCKY
THEY'RE HERE, OF COURSE, BUT
THEY FELT LOVED ONES BEHIND.
SO FOR THEM, THE BROADER
GEOPOLITICAL DISCUSSION IS LOST
ON PEOPLE AND IT'S TOTALLY
UNDERSTANDABLE WHY.
BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SEEING THIS
WAR IN THEIR FRONT YARDS AND
THEIR FRONT YARDS ARE NO LONGER
THEIR FRONT YARDS.
THERE'S PROBABLY RUSSIAN
SOLDIERS IN THEIR HOUSES.
FOR THEM, IT'S ALREADY BEEN A
HOME LOST AND IT'S ALREADY
FALLEN APART.
THE JETS WITH POLAND IS
FASCINATING.
POLAND IS GOING TO HAND THESE
JETS OVER THE UNITED STATES AND
THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
SO YOU HAVE THIS VERY OBVIOUS
HESITATION ON BEHALF OF THE
AMERICANS, NATO, TO WIDEN THIS
WAR BECAUSE THE NATO SECRETARY
GENERAL SAYS IT WILL SAVE LIVES
BY NOT IMPLEMENTING A NO FLY
ZONE, BUT HERE ON THE GROUND,
WITHOUT A NEW FLOWY ZONE, THOSE
RUSSIAN JETS ARE PICKING APART
THE CITIES AND THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE LEFT ARE CIVILIANS WHO HAVE
STAYED TO FIGHT OR JUST TRYING
TO SURVIVE IN THESE BASEMENTS.
SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM HERE.