Melanie I saw you were at an event that I think Lila was at and I think are you there too were
you all at um debatecon is this a thing that has happened before is it new this is the second one
uh whoa that I've heard this is the first time I've gone but they did one last year too I think
but yeah like it was fun it was super fun I the my panel was later at like 7 p.m and I
only showed up for that one but there were a bunch of other ones before apparently some of
them got a little heated so I want to go back and watch some of those uh but even during my
panel we talked about like big Tech censorship uh it was me Alex Stein and Jackson Hinkle on a team
against the liberal side arguing versus um all right big Tech censorship and if we like it or not
obviously I don't is there a pro censorship like not necessarily I feel like they basically they're
they want to see like fact Checkers and stuff like that and they ask some questions about like
oh well what are you gonna do then what what like how are we gonna survive the
internet if people aren't fact checking to tell us what's real and what's not and
I'm just thinking so these were liberal these were like liberals obviously yeah
survived the internet all this time you know why do all of a sudden people want fact Checkers
to tell them how to think it's just absurd if anything now it's like now it's surviving the
internet because you could get just nuked out of existence before it was enjoying
the internet experiencing the internet you can't even experience it anymore exactly so that was an
interesting debate and uh it did get a little bit heated at one point one of the guys on the other
side uh he he got heated earlier at another panel about like uh LGBT topics uh Ariel which I don't
know if you've ever had her on simpcast but you should I think oh Ariel um scarcelli I think I did
a I had her on a one-on-one she's great I'll have to have her back so yeah that would be awesome so
apparently she was debating against him and you know she's a lesbian for those who don't know but
she's not into like a bunch of the woke stuff or whatever and so he got mad at her he flipped her
off on the actual panel uh wow so emotional very fast I know and that's what's crazy about you
know and and what I was thinking while even on uh our pin on our debate uh he was one that got
more emotional and uh I could tell because at one point he goes I for one trust mainstream media and
I wasn't trying to mock the guy but my a reaction is to laugh at that I couldn't help it I started
laughing and his eyes were like like I know his name was Justin they kept calling him Jangles I
don't know oh yes he's referred to as Jangles on the schedule yeah so he was like he just opened
his eyes as far as he could and looked at me I know you think that's funny and I'm like oh
my gosh I would be terrified to be in a room alone with this guy like he would murder me
but he just got so emotionally charged over that but I think uh and so for part of that
I kind of did quiet down a bit and just let them say what they were gonna say because
I was like whoa this is getting serious I was I was here for the memes a little bit
but uh oh interesting yeah I don't I don't do good at like actual serious confrontations so
then I just kind of let everybody else kind of take over from there but hey uh it went well
overall Melanie what was your like what were your topics uh it was just like uh different
things regarding uh big Tech censorship like hey do you think Elon Musk is going to make Twitter
better for example or uh worse or is there going to be no difference and then asking questions like
hey is Facebook actually biased toward like the left side versus the right things like that uh
were prompted questions we had like a q a segment at one point they asked what we thought about
Kanye West should he have been de-platformed so on and so forth and uh talked about the coof jab a
little bit and that whole situation so yeah you're not intense though did you enjoy that because
I don't know if I would enjoy debating somebody well I enjoyed it first and then it got people
got emotional and once people started getting emotional and you know uh a little more
offended and all that like you're crying not crying more just you know how to you can just
sense he's getting fired up yeah or yeah like that one guy got a bit emotional there and was like
because I was gonna say if he was straight like tell him to stop crying like a girl right exactly
I'd like to be a man yeah that's the thing is if people are actually seriously mad uh then that's
where I kind of shut down because I'm like okay never mind but y'all go ahead and Duke
it out because for me I've I don't feel like it has to get to that point you know yeah uh
was it Alex that was pissing him off and like antagonizing him he was well he was mad at me
at one point for laughing about him being uh a trusting mainstream media but yeah he got mad at
Alex he got uh mad at Jackson as well because Jackson you know a really good singer uh so
basically what Jangles said was well if you don't believe in uh you know big Tech monitoring what
we're saying and fact checking stuff what are you gonna do with some snake oil salesman says
oh take this snake oil it will heal you of this question goes off you mean like the coven Jab
that was the perfect setup come on like that was that was a layup I was
just did he start like seething oh he was yeah did you respond to that uh yeah he got a little bit
fluster and he's like oh okay okay I don't even remember exactly what he said but uh do you guys
have moderators or was it just like yeah we had moderators um who were taking q a questions and
stuff and then like uh keeping us on topic so yeah did you feel it was balanced like politically and
terms of you know beliefs or it was yeah because um the the three on the other side I mean there's
still some variation there so you had like me and the two guys were more on the conservative
side but even with us there's going to be some sort of variation and uh you guys were morons
like so it was equal but no they were awesome They carried everything I was the more on there
um and yeah and then the other side were more on the left side and there was a little bit of
variation there on on what they were exactly one of the guys was a Democratic Socialist and
I found that on the actual topic of big Tech censorship he actually was pretty based even
though he was on their side and they were mostly like oh well we need some degree of fact checking
and stuff he's just like no we don't need any of it uh you know free for all internet and I agreed
with him on that so it's funny how that worked yeah like in the early days of the internet you
could search whatever it was kind of like search at your own risk in the early days of YouTube back
in what 06 were like that was great I'm glad it was like uh kind of a as a well-rounded
event because I I know that sometimes like if there's a lot of right Wingers or conservatives
at an event that can sometimes make it hard for anybody on the left to want to come
even like the people watching because you can usually tell who's on which side by their style
and they have their hair they have like blue hair or if there are they them you can tell by
the number of piercings yeah yeah laughs that's why I really liked the uh the minds event back
in June because it was pretty balanced and I had never I was hosting it so my main concern was like
okay do I have jokes about all the presenters and like the right you know top level people
but I would not want I mean I just think like uh yeah I don't want to see people fight like
it's yeah those things can quickly escalate and it's like yeah you want it to be a good
exchange of ideas and not just like devolve into like ad hominems or or just fighting so
yeah once people actually are getting for real mad because if you're just joking and
bantering or whatever that you know that's fine I'm about it but when I started to feel like okay
this guy's getting for real mad Jangles I was like all right I'm kind of I just
I can't twitch an adult named jingles no is this one of the reindeer yeah like come on
something that I would expect somebody to name their cat like okay 12 cats and she's like that's
Jangles there's boats in it it's a pet name I will say I think his real name was Justin so
I think Jangles was the nickname I I thought it was a joke because he was gay but apparently yeah
I don't know