ELIZABETH: LET’S WELCOME BACK TO
THE SHOW FORMER FEDERAL
PROSECUTOR JIM TRUSTY.
IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON.
OKAY, TOP DEMOCRAT ADAM SCHIFF
TRYING TO DEFEND THE
INDEFENSIBLE.
HE IS TRYING TO FLIP THE SCRIPT.
AFTER HE PROMOTED THE DEBUNKED
STEELE DOSSIER PAID FOR BY
HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN AND
DEMOCRATS, HE READ IT INTO THE
RECORD.
HE CLAIMED HE HAD PROOF OF
TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION.
ROBERT MUELLER FOUND NONE.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THIS.
>> SCHIFF WAS THE JUDGE, JURY
AND EXECUTIONER ON THE
CONGRESSIONAL SIDE.
HE WOULD STOP DURING WITNESS
TESTIMONY TO GO OUT TO TALK TO
THE PRESS ABOUT HOW TRUMP IS A
RUSSIAN AGENT.
WHAT WE KNOW NOW ABOUT THE
DURHAM INDICTMENTS IN
PARTICULAR, SCHIFF WAS IN A
POSITION TO KNOW THE DOSSIERS
WERE ENTIRELY FALSE.
HE CONTINUES TO SING THE SAME
SONG ABOUT RUSSIAN COLLUSION.
AS A GUY FEDERAL PROSECUTOR AT
SOME POINT, MAYBE THAT WAS
STEPPING STONE FOR POLITICS FOR
HIM, THIS IS NOT GOOD TO SEE
FEDERAL PROSECUTORS WITH
ACCUSATIONS.
ELIZABETH: IN SCHIFF’S WORLD,
ACCUSATIONS IS TANTAMOUNT TO
CONVICTIONSES.
THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON
FOR FIVE YEARS WE’VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT IT.
HE SAID HE SUPPORTED THE DURHAM
PROBE WHEN HE SPENT LAST TWO
YEARS UNDERMINING IT.
WATCH ADAM SCHIFF.
>> CHAIR OF HOUSE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE DO YOU REGRET GIVING
SOME CREDIBILITY TO THE STEELE
DOSSIER BEFORE ANYBODY HAD BEEN
ABLE TO VERIFY ANYTHING IN THAT?
A LOT OF THOSE CLIPS WERE DONE
BEFORE THERE WAS ANY GOOD
VERIFICATION.
>> I DON’T REGRET SAYING WE
SHOULD INVESTIGATE CLAIMS OF
SOMEONE WHO FRANKLY WAS A
WELL-RESPECTED BRITISH
INTELLIGENCE OFFICER AND WE
COULDN’T HAVE KNOWN OF COURSE
YEARS AGO THAT WE WOULD LEARN
LATER THAT SOMEONE WHO WAS
PRIMARY SOURCE LIED TO HIM BUT
WHAT I JUST SAID WITH THE CLIP
YOU JUST PLAYED ENDS UP BEING
EXACTLY RIGHT WHICH IS, STEELE
DID REVEAL THE RUSSIANS WERE
TRYING TO HELP ELECT
DONALD TRUMP.
>> OKAY THE SUMMARY WAS ACCURATE
BUT THE DETAILS WERE INCORRECT.
THAT DOES UNDERMINE THE
CREDIBILITY, DOES IT NOT?
>> WELL CERTAINLY.
YOU KNOW, THIS DANCHENKO LIED TO
CHRISTOPHER STEELE AND THEN LIED
TO THE FBI.
HE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED.
ELIZABETH: AND HE SHOULD HAVE
KNOWN IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT HE IS?
HE IS A BULLY.
SCHIFF CALLS CHRISTOPHER STEELE
A WELL-RESPECTED INTELLIGENCE
OFFICER WHEN THE FBI DUMPED
STEEL AS A SOURCE IN THE FALL OF
2016?
WHEN THE FBI KNEW THAT THIS WAS
FALSE EARLY ON IN 2016, STARTING
IN THE SUMMER FALL.
HE TALKS ABOUT PAUL MANAFORT
GIVING RUSSIA POLLING DATA.
THAT’S IT.
THAT IS SCHIFF’S PROOF OF
TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION?
THAT IDEA HE HAD NO WAY TO KNOW
WHETHER A TOP SOURCE WAS LYING
WHEN EVERYBODY IN THE FBI WAS
TALKING ABOUT THAT IN D.C., AND
IT WAS GETTING LEAKED TO THE
MEDIA THAT THIS STEELE DOSSIER
WAS BALONEY.
EVERYTHING ADAM SCHIFF SAID
THERE COULD BE CHALLENGED.
WHAT DO YOU SAY, JIM TRUSTY.
>> SHOULD BE CHALLENGED.
TWO THINGS ARE FUNDAMENTALLY
DISHONEST.
THE FIRST TO TO PRETEND HE WAS
ALL ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION.
HE DIDN’T PREJUDGE ANYTHING AND
HE IS GLAD THEY INVESTIGATED IT
IF THEY DIDN’T TURN OUT TO BE
TRUE.
GOING BACK TO STEELE, THE
WELL-RESPECTED SPY, JAMES BOND
STORY.
CHRISTOPHER STEELE WAS FIRED
BECAUSE OF HIS CHOICE TO GO TO
THE MEDIA.
THE MEDIA LAUNDERED HIS
INFORMATION THROUGH BRUCE OHR IN
2017.
BRUCE OHR WARNED THE FBI, THIS
GUY HATES TRUMP.
ALL THIS WAS KNOWN TO ADAM
SCHIFF.
HE IS LITERALLY ACCESSING THE
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION BACK IN
2017.
ELIZABETH: RIGHT.
>> FOR HIM TO CLAIM SURPRISE AT
THIS POINT IS JUST A H ABSURD.
YOU WONDER IF LIGHTNING WILL
STRIKE HIM FOR THESE FIVE OF
THINGS.
ELIZABETH: MY FORMER EDITOR AT
FORBES, JIM MICHAEL SAID THE
TEDIOUS POWER OF
SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS.
RUSSIA MEDDLES IN U.S.
ELECTIONS.
RUSSIA HAS BEEN MEDDLING FOR
DECADES IN U.S. ELECTIONS,
RIGHT?
BY THE WAY THE MUELLER PROBE
FOUND OUT THEY WERE DOING THINGS
TO BENEFIT HILLARY CLINTON.
NOW WE HAVE CLINTON OPERATIVE,
CHARLES DOLAN, DEEP TIES WITH
THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT.
HE WAS THE SOURCE FOR STEELE’S
MAIN SOURCE, IGOR DANCHENKO FOR
LYING TO THE FBI.
THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID IN THE
DURHAM INDICTMENT.
THAT DANCHENKO’S WORK COULD
AFFECT LIKELIHOOD THAT A HOSTILE
FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SERVICE,
MEANING RUSSIA WOULD ATTEMPT TO
INFLUENCE THE ELECTION AND,
BASICALLY PLOW DISINFORMATION
INTO THE HILLARY CAMPAIGN AND
INTO THE FBI.
SO ADAM SCHIFF IS NOT AWARE THAT
RUSSIA IS CAPABLE OF DOING
THINGS LIKE THAT TO THAT DEGREE.
WHAT DO YOU SAY?
>> WELL, THE RUSSIANS HAVE BEEN
AND WILL ALWAYS BE A PROBLEM.
THEY WILL ALWAYS MEDDLE IN OUR
AFFAIRS AND HOPEFULLY WE DO THE
SAME.
THE BOTTOM LINE, THIS INDICTMENT
CAME OUT LAST WEEK FOR
DANCHENKO, REALLY SETS UP A
HORRIFIC SCENARIO THAT IS MUCH
WORSE THAN THE RUSSIAN STATE
PROPER.
IT IS DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES FOR
HILLARY FEEDING FALSE STORIES,
KNOWINGLY TO A RUSSIAN INTEL
AGENT WHO GIVES IT TO A FIRED
INFORMANT FOR THE FBI AND THE
FBI RUNS WITH IT.
LIKE THERE IS NO LEGITIMATE GOOD
PURPOSE BEHIND ANYBODY IN THAT
CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT LED TO TWO
YEARS WORTH OF DEBILITATING
INVESTIGATIONS.
>> AND PUTIN IS DEALING WITH
THIS, IS LAUGHING AT THIS LIKE A
CAT’S PAW, RIGHT?
HE IS PLAYING EVERYBODY.
IT IS UNREAL.
IT IS UNREAL THAT A TOP LEADER
IN HOUSE INTELLIGENCE IS SO
INCOMPETENT, RIGHT?
AND JUST DOESN’T GET IT, JUST
DOESN’T GET HOW HE PLAYED THE
GAME AND HELPED OUT RUSSIA DOING