IT'S A TERRIBLE SITUATION.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
I DON'T LIKE IT ONE BIT.
LOU: JOINING US TONIGHT, FOX
NATIONAL SECURITY AND FOREIGN
POLICY ANALYSTS DR. WHALID
PHARES.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST
PECULIAR, PERPLEXING AND
SEEMINGLY DISPROPORTIONATE NEWS
EVENT THAT I CAN RECALL IN SOME
TIME.
A PERSON WHO HAS WORKED FOR THE
"WASHINGTON POST" A VERY SHORT
TIME RELATIVELY WHETHER HE WAS A
PAID CONTRIBUTOR OR WHETHER HE
WAS HAD SOME OTHER KIND OF
RELATIONSHIP DISAPPEARS GOING
INTO THE SAUDI CONSULATE IN
ISTANBUL.
HE HAD BEEN MURDERED BY A
SPECIAL TEAM OF SAUDI'S
DISPATCHED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS STORY
THAT SOME ARE TRYING OUT AT
LEAST AGAIN WAS UNKNOWN, UNNAMED
SOURCES THAT HE WAS KILLED
DURING AN OPERATION.
IF ANY OF THIS IS TRUE.
AND THE GOVERNMENT KNEW NOTHING
ABOUT IT.
>> SO MANY THINGS IN ALL HAVE TO
BE CONFIRMED WHAT I CAN PROJECT
AS YOU WOULD IF AT THE END OF
THE DAY, AND THE PRESIDENT HAS
ASKED BOTH FROM THE SAUDI'S,
TURKS, ON GOVERNMENT AND IT WILL
NOT BE THAT DIFFICULT.
MEDIA NOW IS PROJECTING THAT THE
SAUDI'S ARE GOING TO ADMIT TO A
WRONGDOING OR AN ACCIDENT THAT
TOOK PLACE WHILE THEY WERE
INTERROGATING HIM.
WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS WHY HIM
IF THAT'S THE TRUTH.
NOT AS KILLING HIM.
THEY WOULD NOT CHOOSE TO CANCEL
IT IN TURKEY WOULD BE A IN THE
MAKING.
SO MUCH WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
THE BIG PICTURE, LOU, I
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SAUDI'S
AND THEIR ALLIES, EVERYTHING NOW
IS AT PLAY AND I'M VERY
CONCERNED THE IRANIANS AND THE
BROTHERHOOD, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
AND OTHER RADICAL ACTORS IN THE
REGION WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THIS.
LOU: THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD AND JAMAL
KHASHOGGI, THAT PART IS SOMEWHAT
UNCLEAR.
THEY ALSO HAVE A VERY TIGHT
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SAUDI
ROYAL FAMILY, WHETHER THEY BEAT
THE DISEASE THESE, WHETHER THEY
BE THEN SOLOMON.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
HE WAS PART OF THE ENTOURAGE OF
THE HEART OF THE CIRCLES.
FOR MANY YEARS HE IS SOMEBODY
COMING IS THE VIP.
THE SAUDI CHANGED AND WENT INTO
A DIRECTION UNDER THE LEADERSHIP
AND AS YOU KNOW, HE HAS OPPOSED
IT.
HOW DO I KNOW, HOW DOES ANYBODY
KNOW.
THE TWITTER ACCOUNT OF BEEN
READING THE LAST TWO OR FOUR
DAYS, HE IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE
BROTHERHOOD, BUT HE CRITICIZED
THE UNITED STATES FOR NOT
OPENING THE BROTHERHOOD.
THAT MAY HAVE PROMPTED THE
ACTION ON BEHALF OF THE SAUDI'S
HAVE ANYTHING.
LOU: YEAH, THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD, WHICH IS LITTLE
UNDERSTOOD IN THIS COUNTRY I
THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT ON CAPITOL
HILL, PEOPLE WHO WERE DOING
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S BIDDING,
TRYING TO INTERVENE WITH THE
GOVERNMENT IN EGYPT.
EVEN AS HE WAS FORMING THE
GOVERNMENT, URGING 10% TO THEIR
DISPATCHED ENVOYS HE WANTED 10%
OF THAT GOVERNMENT TO BE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD.
THIS FROM A MAN WHO HAD DONE
NOTHING BUT CREATE TERRIFIC
TURMOIL FOR THE EGYPTIANS.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE
RELATIONSHIP THAN BETWEEN RE-ODD
AND A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION?
THIS PRESIDENT IS BEING VERY
OUTSPOKEN, TALKING ABOUT SEVERE
PUNISHMENT.
IT IS RISING TO A LEVEL THAT I
THINK MOST WHAT IS NOT EXPECTED.
>> SEVERE PUNISHMENT MEANS IF IT
APPEARS THAT THE SAUDI
GOVERNMENT OR PART OF THE SAUDI
GOVERNMENT ON PURPOSE WANTED TO
ASSASSINATE MR. KHASHOGGI THE
WAY IT APPEARS THAT THE
BROTHERHOOD ARE DISPLAYED IN IT.
THAT IS A BIG DIFFERENCE.
OF COURSE THE BROTHERHOOD HERE
IN TOWN YOU HAVE THE CAMP OF
MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
NOT MANY, A FEW AND MANY IN THE
OPPOSITION AND OF COURSE THE
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION CONSIDER
THE BROTHERHOOD STILL AS
POTENTIAL ALLIES AND PARTNERS.
THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A DIVIDED
WASHINGTON AS HE RECALLED VERY
WELL WITH 30 MILLION EGYPTIANS
MARCHING ON THE STREETS TO
REJECT THE BROTHERHOOD REGIME
AND YET THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
CONSIDER THAT AS A COUP.
SO WE ARE DIVIDED ON THIS ISSUE.
LOU: THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT
UNLESS SOMEHOW THEY ARE GETTING
GUIDANCE FROM THE STATE
DEPARTMENT OR SOME OTHER AGENCY
WITHIN THIS ADMINISTRATION.
IT IS A VERY SERIOUS UNDERTAKING
AND IS A PECULIAR PLACE TO LAND
FOR U.S. GOVERNMENT.
A DIFFICULT AND MORE COMPLEX
WELL, NETWORK OF EVENTS THAN WE
CAN IMAGINE.
BY THE WAY, WE DIDN'T MENTION
WHAT IF THIS WERE COLLUSION
BETWEEN THE BROTHERHOOD AND URDU
ON IN TURKEY.
THEN IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED