LET ME STOP THERE AND BRING IN
TWO FRIENDS, CHARLIE HURT,
"WASHINGTON TIMES" OPINION
EDITOR AND FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR,
AND MICHAEL GOODWIN,
"NEW YORK POST" COLUMNIST.
THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN FOR TALKING
ABOUT THIS.
YOU KNOW, MICHAEL GOODWIN,
YOU’RE "THE NEW YORKER" ALONG
WITH ME BUT CHARLIE IS A
NEW YORKER IN SPIRIT BECAUSE HE
HAD TO PUT UP WITH ME OVER THE
PAST YEAR ON MANY DIFFERENT
SUBJECT.
>> I WORKED FOR THE
"NEW YORK POST" FOR FIVE YEARS.
LARRY: OH, CHARLIE, I DIDN’T
KNOW THAT.
NO WONDER YOU’RE SO DARN GOOD.
I DID NOT KNOW THAT ALTHOUGH
"THE WASHINGTON TIMES" IS AN
AWFUL GOOD PAPER TOO.
I WILL STILL BEGIN WITH MICHAEL
GOODWIN.
MICHAEL, YOU KNOW, THIS MUST BE
A GAME-CHANGER.
THESE TRAGIC DEATHS COMBINED
WITH THE REMARKABLE TURNOUT OF
THE BLUE LINE UP AND DOWN
FIFTH AVENUE, THOUSANDS OF COPS
ON THE STREETS, YOU AND I TALKED
ABOUT THIS SATURDAY ON THE
RADIO.
THIS HAS TO BE A GAME-CHANGER,
MICHAEL GOOD WIN.
OTHERWISE I THINK WE’RE ALL
GOING TO LOSE HOPE.
TELL US WHAT YOU’RE THINKING
ABOUT THIS.
>> WELL, LARRY, TO ME THESE FUNERALS REALLY DO HARKEN BACK
FUNERALS REALLY DO HARKEN BACK
TO THE AFTERMATH OF KNIFE --
9/11.
OBVIOUSLY THE SCOPE OF TRAGEDIES
ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
FUNERALS FOR POLICE, FIREMEN AT
ST. PATRICK’S CATHEDRALS.
YOU HAD THE SENSE OF THE
CATHARSIS, THIS WAS THE END, THE
BOTTOM OF SOMETHING AND IT CAN ONLY GO UP FROM HERE.
ONLY GO UP FROM HERE.
IT WAS A RESOLVE ABOUT YOU
MENTIONED RUDY GIULIANI WHO WAS
THE MAYOR THEN.
THERE IS RESOLVE BUT NOT SURE
HOW FAR IT SPREADS.
I WROTE IN MY COLUMN IN THE
"NEW YORK POST," THAT PRESIDENT
BADE -- BIDEN IS COMING HERE
TOMORROW TO MEET WITH ERIC ADAMS
TO TALK ABOUT CRIME.
BIDEN NEEDS ADAM MORE THAN ADAMS
NEEDS BIDEN.
ADAMS IS CLEARLY COMMITTED TO
MAKE THE CITY SAFER.
HE IS RUNNING INTO OBSTACLE BUT
THERE IS LITTLE DOUBT ABOUT HIS
PERSONAL COMMITMENT AT THIS
POINT.
IT IS BIDEN WHO WE WONDER ABOUT.
IS HE COMMITTED TO SAFER CITIES
ACROSS AMERICA.
IF HE WERE TO COME HERE, THIS IS
A FIGHT AMONGST DEMOCRATS.
YOU MENTIONED THE LEGISLATURE,
YOU MENTIONED THE GOVERNOR, THE
CITY COUNCIL, LIKE ADAMS THEY’RE
DEMOCRATS, THEY’RE STANDING IN
THE WAY OF A MAYOR, A BLACK
DEMOCRATIC MAYOR, WHO USED TO BE
A POLICE OFFICER, HE WANTS TO
CRACK DOWN ON CRIME, THESE
CIVILIAN DEMOCRATS, FAR LEFT
DEMOCRATS IN THE CITY COUNCIL,
IN ALBANY WHO DON’T WANT TO
CRACK DOWN ON CRIME, WHO WAND TO
CODDLE THE CRIMINALS.
THAT IS THE BATTLE.
I HOPE BIDEN WEIGHS IN TO HELP
ADAMS MOVE THE BALL FORWARD.
LARRY: CHARLIE HURT, LET’S
PURSUE THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE
OF POINTS I WANT TO PURSUE, BUT
MICHAEL’S LAST POINT WE HOPE
BIDEN HELPS ERIC ADAMS BUT YOU
KNOW, CHARLIE, GOVERNOR HOCHUL
HAD A CHANCE TO SPANK THIS
LEFT-WING DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND
SHE FLUNKED.
SHE ALSO HAS NOT BACKED UP ERIC
ADAMS’ CALL TO CHANGE, NO BAIL,
NO JAIL.
SHE HASN’T LIFTED A FINGER THERE
AND SHE REALLY HASN’T SAID MUCH
SUPPORT FOR HIS IDEA OF PUTTING
MORE PLAINCLOTHES COPS ON THE
BEAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, CHARLIE?
WE NOT ONLY NEED MORE
PLAINCLOTHES MEN ON THE BEAT, WE
NEED THEM IN THE SUBWAYS, WE
NEED THEM ON THE STREETS
EVERYWHERE.
WE NEED THEM IN THE BUSINESS
DISTRICTS AND THERE IS 5000 SOME
ODD FEWER COPS TODAY THAN THERE
WAS A YEAR OR TWO BACK BECAUSE
OF VARIOUS CUTBACKS OR
DISILLUSIONMENT AND
DEMORALIZATION.
SO ENTER JOE BIDEN, WHAT’S HE
GOING TO DO, CHARLIE HURT?
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO HEAR FROM
THIS GUY?
>> THAT IS THE REAL FRUSTRATION
I THINK THAT JOE BIDEN HAS HAD
SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES OVER THE
PAST COUPLE OF YEARS BOTH IN THE
WHITE HOUSE AND THEN WHEN HE WAS
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT TO
SMACKDOWN THE FAR LEFT-WING OF
HIS PARTY AND STAND UP FOR BASIC
LAWFULNESS, BASIC EQUAL JUSTICE
UNDER LAW, BACKING UP COPS WHO
ARE TRYING TO DO THE JOBS, CARRY
OUT THE LAWS, THAT LAWMAKERS
MAKE AND HE FAILED TO DO IT AT
EVERY TURN.
HE HAS CHOSEN INSTEAD TO GO FOR
THE CRAZY LEFT-WING RHETORIC,
TRASHING COPS, ENCOURAGING
CRIME, WHICH OF COURSE HAS YOU
KNOW, IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SEE THE
END PRODUCT OF THAT IN NEW YORK
OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO.
AND SO SADLY I DON’T THINK
THERE, I DON’T THINK WE’LL SEE
ANYTHING COME OUT OF JOE BIDEN.
I DON’T THINK HE WILL CHANGE
ANYTHING.
HE IS NOT GOING TO GO BACK TO
THAT SORT OF CENTRIST DEMOCRAT
THAT HE WAS FOR THE FIRST 500
YEARS OF HIS POLITICAL CAREER.
HE’S REALLY RUN OFF WITH THE
CIRCUS IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS
AND I DON’T THINK THERE IS ANY
COMING BACK FOR HIM.
LARRY: YOU KNOW, MICHAEL
GOODWIN, BIDEN’S GOING TO COME
HERE AND TALK ABOUT GUN CONTROL.
THAT’S MY FORECAST, OKAY?
I DON’T THINK IT’S A BRILLIANT
FORECAST.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK
THE SAME THING.
THIS AS WE HAVE ALL THREE
TALKED, THIS CITY AND STATE HAVE
THE TOUGHEST GUN LAWS IN THE
COUNTRY AND WE’RE HAVING THE
WORST CRIME WAVE IN OUR HISTORY
OR AT LEAST IN MANY, MANY
DECADE, MAYBE IN OUR HISTORY.
IT IS NOT ABOUT THE GUNS
ALTHOUGH IT IS, IT IS ABOUT THE
CRIMINALS WHO SHOOT THE GUNS AND
THE CRIMINALS WHO -- LIKE THIS
STUPID, JERK RAPPER PERSON,
C-BLUE, WHATEVER, REVOLVING
DOORS, NO BAIL OR BAIL HE CAN
AFFORD.
THIS GUY SHOULD BE IN LOCKUP.
MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF HIM.
CRIMINALS ARE USING GUNS TO
SHOOT COPS AND CITIZENS.
BY THE BY, IT IS CRIMINALS WHO
ARE PUSHING PEOPLE OFF THE LEDGE
IN THE SUBWAYS.
IT IS THE CRIMINALS WHO ARE
ATTACKING PEOPLE IN BROAD
DAYLIGHT ON THE MAJOR THOROUGH
FARES HERE IN MANHATTAN.
IT IS ABOUT CRIMINALS.
WHEN WILL WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT
CRIMINALS?
>> YEAH, LARRY, YOU’RE RIGHT.
THIS IS NOT HARD.
THE FACTS OF THIS ARE NOT
COMPLICATED.
THIS IS SIMPLY A BREAKDOWN OF
LAW ENFORCEMENT DICTATED BY THE
POLITICAL CLASS.
JOE BIDEN INCLUDED.
YOU KNOW, ON THE BAIL LAW, FOR
EXAMPLE, WHAT ERIC ADAMS WANTS
TO DO IS JUST SIMPLY LET JUDGES
CONSIDER THE DANGEROUSNESS OF
THE SUSPECT TO THE COMMUNITY IF
HE OR SHE IS RELEASED.
THAT IS ALL.
EVERY OTHER STATE, 49 OTHER
STATES AND THE FEDERAL SYSTEM
GIVE JUDGES THAT DISCRETION.
NEW YORK NO LONGER DOES.
AND SO THERE IS A CASE WHERE
EVEN THAT RAPPER THAT YOU
MENTIONED, HE SHOT A COP
ALLEGEDLY.
HE GETS OUT ON BAIL, $250,000.
THAT, THE ACTUAL SETTING OF THE
BAIL IS UNUSUAL IN THIS CITY AND
STATE RIGHT NOW BUT EVEN THEN
THE JUDGE COULD HAVE SAID, LOOK,
I HAVE LOTS OF VIDEOS HERE OF
YOU WITH GUNS.
YOU SHOT A COP.
YOU KNOW, YOU’RE A DANGER TO THE
COMMUNITY.
I’M GOING TO HOLD YOU UNTIL
TRIAL.
THAT’S WHAT A JUDGE SHOULD BE
ABLE TO DO IN THOSE
CIRCUMSTANCES BUT THE NEW YORK
STATE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW IT.
THAT IS WHAT ADAMS IS PUSHING
FOR.
THAT IS THE ONE BAIL REQUEST HE
HAS MADE.
THAT IS NOT COMPLICATED.
THAT’S NOT HARD.
THAT SHOULD BE EASY TO DO.
LARRY: SPOT ON.
SURE, THIS KID CAN AFFORD IT, HE
SOLD RECORDS AND WHATNOT.
HE SHOULD BE IN THE LOCKUP.
CHARLIE HURT, LAST POINT HERE
THIS IS A NEW YORK STORY BUT
IT’S A NATIONAL STORY, ISN’T IT
REALLY?
IT’S A NATIONAL STORY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
LARRY: WHEN BIDEN COMES HERE HE
REALLY MAKES IT A NATIONAL STORY
SINCE HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
WHOLE COUNTRY AT LEAST IN SOME
THEORETICAL SENSE.
THE COUNTRY HAS BEEN CODDLING
CRIMINALS, I MEAN YOU GOT, NOT
FOR THIS SEGMENT BUT YOU HAVE
GOT FEDERAL NOMINEES TO HIGH
POSITIONS IN THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, OKAY, BIDEN NOMINEES
TO HIGH POSITIONS WHO HAVE
ACTUALLY PROVIDED HELP ON BAIL
MONEY FOR PROTESTERS AND RIOTERS
IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS,
REALLY QUITE REMARKABLE.
YOU GOT ALL KINDS OF
POLITICIANS.
AOC ON DOWN WHO WERE DEFENDING
THE BLACK LIVES MATTER, WHO WERE
DEFENDING RIOTERS, WERE
DEFENDING LOOTERS, RIGHT?
WHERE IS THE PRESIDENT HERE OX?
THIS IS NATIONAL STORY.
FIVE, 10,000 COPS ON
FIFTH AVENUE COMING DOWN FROM
ST. PADDY’S CATHEDRAL SAYING
HELP US.
WHERE IS THE HELP?
CHARLIE HURT, GOT TO GIVE YOU
THE LAST WORD?
>> I MEAN THE SITTING
VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA CONTRIBUTED TO
HELP RAISE MONEY FOR BAIL TO GET
THESE RIOTERS OUT.
LARRY: RIGHT, RIGHT.
>> SUMMER BEFORE THE ELECTION.
LARRY: RIGHT.
>> THERE IS NO MORAL AUTHORITY
COMING FROM THESE PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, ELECTIONS, BIG
ELECTIONS USUALLY TURN ON ONE OF
TWO THINGS, EITHER ECONOMICS OR
SECURITY.
THIS IS SHAPING UP TO BE AN
ELECTION THAT IS GOING TO HAVE
BOTH ECONOMICS AND SECURITY AND
YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A TRULY
EXPLOSIVE ELECTION BUT THERE IS
NO ISSUE, NO ISSUE ON THE PLANET
WHETHER YOU’RE IN AMERICA OR IN
SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA, ANYWHERE,
THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN
SECURITY.
WHEN PEOPLE DON’T FEEL SECURE,
THEN GOVERNMENT HAS COMPLETELY
FAILED AND THAT’S WHY THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT NATIONAL STORY.
LARRY: SPOT ON, SPOT ON.
IT IS THE MOST BASIC HUMAN
RIGHT, SAFETY, SECURITY.
TO BE SECURE YOU AND YOUR
FAMILY.
>> WHY WE COME TOGETHER.
LARRY: THAT’S GREAT.
THAT’S RIGHT.
THIS IS A SAFETY, SECURITY
STORY, THIS IS AN ECONOMIC
STORY, BUS WITHOUT BASIC
SECURITY YOU CAN’T HAVE AN
ECONOMY.
WE’RE LEARNING THAT PAINFULLY IN
NEW YORK CITY.
MIAMI GOT CRIME, FLORIDA GOT
CRIME, TEXAS GOT CRIME, I’M
SORRY, NOT LIKE THIS.
WE’RE LEARNING IT THE HARD WAY.
ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, YOU’RE
TERRIFIC.
IT IS KIND OF A SAD DAY TODAY