I didn't think that okay my mom and dad had this kind of relationship so even I will the same
mom was treated like this so even I will go through the same
I used to cry at home, I felt like I was one the beggar in the crowd
so I have even done that
I've done a role of servant that only had to serve the food
she got affected more in real life also because she didn't see it coming
so I think she was very affected
I' have my own way of dealing with it so
I got so busy with work that I didn't bother what's happening in my personal life
I didn't give any time to process my divorce
I was working like a dog, I was travelling
I was just so busy
if my husband was one like who didn't like Masaba or
I would have though that they would never get along, then I would have never married him
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Today we've mother daughter duo joining us for conversation only on PINKVILLA
Hello, Masaba. How are you Neena Ma'am
Hello, I'm so good, we are wonderful
very excited very nervous
the show is very brave attempt in your part
to bring about part of your life in front of the public
not only watch not only know of but also to quickly able to be judged
people will judge what you guys are doing in your real life, because this is your part of the real life
how did you convince yourself or was it difficult to come to confusion that let's do it
I think when you're at public figure at any level, little you lose control of what people
will see you as in any case, because I think there is that thing where people
say okay, she did this so she must be like that
she got divorced she must be like that
so you could be living your life and not harming anyone, but people will have this perception of you
I think it was definitely brave but
I was very clear that there are certain parts of my life that I will share
and there are certain parts of my life that I won't share
same goes for mom because we recently had a conversation
we didn't talk to each other but we understood that what we are exactly suppose to show
so in that sense at least my consious is over that I still have part of my life that is still private
and there is one part which is there for world to see
that we everyday upload it on Instagram, so though why not make nice cute show out of it
still I was not convinced because I didn't understand
but once they showed me the script, once I sat, me and Masaba and Sonam sat with the writers
we told our incident
like Masaba told her incident Masaba's incident that actually happened in Delhi
in Rajpat Nagar where the seller says Masaba is not a print but it is a country
yes we did tell that, after that the script that came out was really good
''Bhondapan'' was not there do you understand ?
means crass, it was not crass
there was no revenge
we are telling our stories and some amazing incidents from it
as a child you have seen her make those decisions right
so were you always that strong and your mindset like you said
like with your firm choices
I think there is a misconception with women who make slightly different choices are strong
or women that are independent are strong
she stays alone, maybe she is a strong women , you know what I mean
I don't think that is the case, I think women are strong in some way or the other
but I have always viewed my life very different
I was clearly since childhood that I will not think
my mom and dad this kind of relationship so even I will have the same
or my mom was treated like this so even I will face the same
so i think I was very clear that I want to find
relationships and human connection and life in my own way
with my own view point
so I think strong yes, i consider myself strong because
I've made decision in my life for myself
that also brings to my next point that
women say I'm fan of Neena Gupta, I admire her
I don't see women having a child out of wedlock and saying
I will do this because I love Neena Gupta
I would do like this because I'm a single mother so it's a very different
to have a role model just for the sake of admiring someone from the far
and it is very different to have a role model till you emule
that's the way I see it I see myself as individual person
I have these two parent who have really lived a big life
but I see life from entirely individual point of view
also kudos to you Neena ma'am because in the
two episode that I watched we do go through that part of your life
where you are also detecting with nothing happened and moving forward in life
today things are very different, today we see space where we see you playing in lead roles
and you're a given opportunity that you deserve
but back then how do you deal with that you know
making sure Masaba is also growing up spending up for family
and also having it, you know you are having it but you are not getting the opportunity
and Masaba how do you look at that phase of your mother's career
this has happened many times with me, when I came we didn't have such satelite channels
there was Doordarshan and films
so I have done such horrible roles in films that I use to pray god that film doesn't release
because I had to fend for myself, we had to earn money
because I am from theater one thing I learn is that no work is small
no work is small,
you are not satisfied with it, but you have certain helplessness
one man who runs the home, and feed their family
I want to ask, I'm sure
80% of the man are not doing what they want to do
they do only because they have to fend for their families
same way
what was good about me was
that I can get into depression and be an alcoholic, and do something bad
instead what ever came in my way I took it
and work, be it whatever
I use to come and cry at home,I felt like a beggar from the crowd
so I have even done that
I also did a role of a servant who just had to serve food
be I was alive, and in peace with me, TV came and I got good work in it
so slowly, losing strength won't get you anywhere
it is written in my Kundli that everything good comes late in my favor
for the longest time I didn't notice many things
this was struggle for her or she is going through something
I think I had a very normal childhood because
I only use to feel okay your mom is single mom and struggling when I use to go out
when there were birthday parties or something only then I would feel it
but I have to say that we had this very interesting thing
we use to live in Aram Nagar when we were very young we use to have this row houses
when she use to come home from work she wouldn't ring the bell
you would whistle right, Mom, so yeah
I didn't feel a thing, that's why I'm not a bitter person
if she would have come home and said don't talk to me I;m tired
she use to work for 14 hours a day come home, spend time to me, talk to me,
listen to my rubbish as a child and also want to go out and have ice cream she use to take me
and more than that
when a parent is parenting as a single parent
it's so easy to say you know what
I can't give you this or I can't give you that and
and whole wack information from me
I was given things exactly as they are I was told, we can afford this and can't afford this
maybe your other friend can afford to go here we can't afford
maybe you other friend can afford this car we cant'
so there was no thing like I will bring it by
which gave me great sense of reality
second thing is she was also very clear
while reading newspaper, if something bad is written about me then you yourself read it
so that as a child you have that kind of transparancy made me thick skin at a young age \
also coming you that because you brought it up
in the beginning of the show where you go through the process of divorce
is brought up with a newspaper article
I want to know, this is in real life
who does it affect more, you or your mom because on the show she gets affected a lot mroe
I think she got affected more in real life also
because she didn't see it coming
so I think she was very affected
I have my own way of dealing with it so
I got so busy with work that I didn't realize what is happening in my personal life
but yeah she was much more affected and that is how exactly pictured in show as well
Masaba, one thing is that it is
like you said I have known I have not met you too many times but
I've known of you from people around you
and I have known as you as a very strong individual
but there are thing which are too strong
people think, most things don't affect you or you don't let it affect
although you are actually getting affected , you know yourself
where as situation like that, people think Masaba is too strong she will handle it
but you had a war within you
you somebody was telling me the other day
and I completely forgot that I didn't gave myself to process my divorce
I was working like a dog, I was travelling
I was just so busy that I never, So I think my uncle or someone said
why are you on this tredmill like can you at least process what happen to you and then move on
so I think that's very common perception and
but people take that for granted
she is fine she will manage
nothing like that I think today I have changed drastically because I allow myself to
not just grieve or have moments where I'm feeling down but
even if I am feeling celebratly I don't work, I take those 2-3 days and I don't work
no one knows what you're going through, until you go through yourself
people understand when they go through it they realize how silly they were being
how important is it for you to like the partner she is with
and how important is it for you to like her partner also
like either or vise versa
it's very important because that becomes a family
so one more man or lady joints the family
if my husband was someone who would not like Masaba, or
I felt that he they wouldn't get along then I would have never married him
it was very important aspect I had to see him otherwise I would never marry him
I would never have someone close to me
no matter how much I love him , lust hi whatever
so I think the same way so it is very important because
then you're adding someone to your family who doesn't know your family as well
at your will he is going to adjust to you
person should be good within so it is important
it is somebody she has or somebody I have, it is very important
what about you Masaba
Yeah I completely agree I think not just with marriage I think
I mean it's even important that my mother likes my friends
even if it's somebody I'm in relationship with
at the end of the day you want to have that comfort that everyone can get into room together
and really enjoy themselves
not just enjoy themselves but be themselves
there shouldn't be any tension of somebody feel fight now or feel bad or
it's very important not just in romantic relationship but even in friendship
but more power to both of you I think
you guys are completely changing the narratives when it comes to proto types that we have
for Indian women actually breaking the proto type
thank you for doing this and lovely conversation
I am hoping we will have one more soon
yeah, after the show is released we will talk again.