POINT AND MAKING IT HARD FOR
PROFESSORS TO TEACH.
END QUOTE.
THE SENATOR SAYS HE WANTS
ANSWERS FROM SOME OF THE
NATION'S TOP UNIVERSITIES ABOUT
INCIDENTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE
ON THEIR CAMPUSES THAT CONCERN
EVERYBODY ABOUT THE STATE OF
ACADEMIC FREEDOM.
JOINING US NOW CABOT PHILLIPS,
FROM CAMPUS REFORM.
DO YOU SEE INSTANCES WHERE PC
CULTURE IS IMPACTING STUDENTS'
COLLEGE EDUCATION?
THAT'S KIND OF A RHETORICAL
QUESTION.
GO FOR IT
>> YEAH, THERE ARE NUMEROUSES
INSTANCES.
-- NUMEROUS INSTANCES, THAT'S
WHY WE HAVE OUR WEBSITE.
WE SEE PLENTY OF TIMES NOT ONLY
PROFESSORS.
THE STANDARD ON CAMPUS HAS NOW
BECOME WHATEVER YOU SAY HURTS MY
FEELINGS YOU SHOULDN'T BE
ALLOWED TO SPEAK.
SADLY SO MANY SCHOOL
ADMINISTRATORS INDULGE THESE
STUDENTS AND OUTRAGED MOMS AND
IT KEEPS THE NEXT GENERATION
THAT YOUR FEELINGS SUPERSEDE
OTHER PEOPLE'S FREEDOMS.
IN THE LONG RUN WHEN YOU TAKE
IDEAS OFF CAMPUS THAT MAKE
PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE YOU
ACTUALLY HINDER PEOPLE'S GROWTH.
THE PEOPLE YOU ARE TRYING TO
HELP, YOU END UP HURTING BECAUSE
THEY NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO PROCESS IDEAS TO MAKE THEM
UNCOMFORTABLE TO GROW
INTELLECTUALLY AND LEARN HOW TO
DEBATE.
THAT'S WHAT COLLEGE IS ABOUT.
SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WALKING ON
TIPTOES AND EGG SHELLS BECAUSE
THEY ARE AFRAID TO BUCK THE
TREND.
IT IS A LIBERAL IDEOLOGY THAT'S
WELCOMED ON CAMPUS.
THINGS THAT GO AGAINST THAT ARE
THE THINGS THAT ARE PUSHED BACK
ON THE MOST.
>> I DON'T WANT TO BE
HYPERBOLIC.
I THINK THE REAL DANGER TO THIS
COUNTRY IS NOT IRAN, IT IS NOT
CHINA.
IT IS HARVARD AND YALE, IT IS
THE UNIVERSITIES.
CABOT, AS YOU SAID THAT'S THE
BATTLEGROUND OF IDEAS.
THAT'S WHERE THE NEXT
POLITICIANS OR POLITICIAN
INSIDERS THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE
BEING TRAINED.
AS YOU SAID, THE COLLEGES ARE
CESSPOOLS OF COLLECTIVISM,
CESSPOOLS OF SOCIALISM.
DOESN'T THE FACT THAT GOVERNMENT
DOMINATES EDUCATION, ITS
FUNDING, ITS ADMINISTRATION,
ISN'T THAT A ROOT CAUSE OF WHY
COLLEGES ARE SO LIBERAL, SO LEFT
AND ULTIMATELY SO AGAINST
CAPITALISM?
>> I THINK THAT'S ONE BIG REASON
FOR IT.
AND FOR SO LONG, IT'S INCREASED
STEADILY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN
ANY ACCOUNTABILITY.
THANKFULLY WE SAW THIS YEAR
PRESIDENT TRUMP ISSUING AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER ON FREE SPEECH.
WE HAVE SEEN SENSORS LIKE
GRASSLEY AND SENATOR CRUZ SPEAK
OUT ABOUT THIS.
I THINK IT IS GOING TO TAKE
ACCOUNTABILITY TO CHANGE THIS
PROBLEM.
AND THERE ARE TANGIBLE
EXPRESSIONS OF THE EXPRESSION OF
FREE SPEECH.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR
AMERICANS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT
LOOKS LIKE.
THE THINGS I SEE ARE ONE THE
FREE SPEECH ZONES WHERE STUDENTS
ARE KIND OF SEQUESTERED OFF IN
THESE SECLUDED AREAS ON CAMPUS
AND SAY YOU CAN EXPRESS IDEAS
HERE.
WE HAVE SEEN IT IN SUPPRESSION
OF SPEAKERS.
DAVID: JUST TO PUSH BACK A
LITTLE BIT.
I THINK ZACH IS GOING TO
DISAGREE THAT NORTH KOREA IS NOT
AS DANGEROUS AS COLLEGE
CAMPUSES.
HOLD ON, JONATHAN.
>> HAVING TAUGHT AT HARVARD BUT
ALSO HAVING TAUGHT AT UNIVERSITY
OF MASSACHUSETTS, BOSTON,
COMMUTER SCHOOL, LIBERALISM IS
THE ABILITY TO SPEAK YOUR MIND
AND TO HAVE OPEN DEBATES, TO USE
THIS SUPPRESSION OF FREE SPEECH
ON CAMPUS AS A LIBERAL THING OR
A LEFT THING IS ABSOLUTELY NOT
TRUE.
DAVID: OH, PLEASE.
>> COME ON -- IT IS TRUE ON SOME
COLLEGES.
>> YOU JUMPED ON JONATHAN FOR
USING THEORETICAL GUIDE POST.
THE REALITY IS EVERY CAMPUS IN
AMERICA IS LIBERAL.
THAT'S A REALITY.
[TALKING OVER EACH OTHER]
>> MODERN LEFTISM.
LOOK YOU DON'T HAVE SUCH THINGS
AS CONSERVATIVE OUTRAGE MOBS.
I HAVE BEEN ON CAMPUS AND WALKED
AROUND WITH HUNDRED DOLLAR AND
TOLD STUDENTS IF YOU CAN GIVE ME
AN EXAMPLE OF STUDENTS SHUTTING
DOWN LIBERAL PROFESSORS, I WILL
GIVE YOU $100.
IT IS COMING FROM THE POLITICAL
LEFT.
A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
CLASSICAL LIBERALISM WHICH
EMBRACES FREE SPEECH.
>> I JUST HAD BOTH MY KIDS IN
COLLEGE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
I HAVE TWO OF MY CLOSEST FRIENDS
WHO HAVE KIDS IN COLLEGE RIGHT
NOW.
AND YOU'RE 100% CORRECT.
PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND ON EGG
SHELLS ON WHAT THEY CAN SAY, HOW
THEY CAN SAY IT AND WHERE THEY
CAN SAY IT.
SO MY SPECIFIC QUESTION TO YOU
CABOT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO
CHANGE?
>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>> WHAT SPECIFICALLY CAN ANYBODY
DO TO CHANGE IT?
I KNOW YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT.
DAVID: HARD QUESTION.
>> I THINK ONE THING YOU CAN DO
FIRST OFF IS LETTING MARKET
FORCES TAKE IMPACT.
DON'T SEND YOUR KID TO A COLLEGE
IF YOU LOOK UP WHAT THEY STAND
FOR AND THEY ARE NOT DOING
ENOUGH TO PROTECT IDEOLOGICAL
DIVERSITY ON CAMPUS.
LEGISLATION CAN PLAY A ROLE IN
THIS.
SCHOOLS AREN'T GETTING FUNDING
IF THEY AREN'T DOING ENOUGH TO
PROTECT FUNDAMENTAL ELEMENTS
LIKE THE 1ST AMENDMENT.
IF THERE WERE LIBERAL IDEAS THAT
WERE BEING SUPPRESSED ON CAMPUS,
YOU WOULD HAVE DEMOCRATIC
CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS
SPEAKING UP.
THERE'S A REASON IT IS ONLY
REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
IN THE SENATE THAT ARE SPEAKING
UP ABOUT THIS PROBLEM.
>> THE IDEA YOU CAN DEBATE
RACISM AND RACE AND GENDER,
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT A LOT OF
CAMPUSES ARE TRYING TO PRECLUDE
DISCUSSION ABOUT.
A LIBERAL APPROACH WOULD SAY YOU
HAVE TO HAVE AN OPEN DIALOGUE.
DAVID: POINT TO ONE INSTANCE
WHERE A LIBERAL OR SOCIALIST WAS
SHUT DOWN BY A CONSERVATIVE
GROUP.
ON CAMPUS.
I CAN'T THINK OF ONE.
BUT I'M SURE CABOT CAN GIVE US
DOZENS OF EXAMPLES OF THE OTHER
WAY AROUND; RIGHT?
>> YES.
I'M AGREEING THAT THERE IS A FAR
LEFT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO
CALL IT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S NOT THE
LIBERAL ATTITUDE OF MOST
UNIVERSITIES.
>> TRY WEARING A MAGA HAT ON ANY
ONE OF THESE UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES
RIGHT NOW AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
DAVID: ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT AT THAT.