>> Filled with passion and desire would like to see your naked body beneath my house.
>> Me too. >>
So that is just the most recent bit of news that's been
leaked from a variety of different sources hyped from a variety of different sources
with the fairly transparent goal of taking down Madison Cawthorn.
Now, in that case, if it wasn't clear from the video, if you're listening to the podcast,
he was talking with a friend or a relative will get into it and at the end of it, the other man
puts his hand near Madison Cawthorn is crotch. And that No, I mean, come on, he's done right.
They got him. If the lingerie thing didn't then this it's obviously disgusting. It's obviously
see through what's going on here, but here is how it's being presented. So, FireMadison.com,
which is a website, has identified the man in the video as the scheduler for Madison
Cawthorn, Stephen smith. Now that site is operated by the American muckrakers pack
whose self described sole objective is to ensure Madison Cawthorn is first term in office
is his last and I guess they think that this might do it, but not just the video.
They want to at least pretend that this is a more substantive critique than that.
So David wheeler, the president of that pack uploaded a copy of an ethics complaint that
he has filed against Madison Cawthorn. And that complaint alleges that Cawthorn had not
properly filed house financial disclosures regarding gifts and loans to Stephen smith.
The man in the video in his complaint, he also claims that Cawthorn and Smith
are living together and there's a few other little pieces of evidence that will get to Brett. But
all of this is is fairly see through I think. What do you think?
>> Yes, just like the lingerie he wore in that photograph, they also leaked.
So here's the thing is a great opportunity to point out to people that I believe in
more freedom than most people in the Republican Party do. Whereas
they want to you to run by them, which consenting adults crotches you touch.
I don't want to do that as a member of generally the left, I am someone who doesn't give a flying
f whose crotch you suggestively touch in an SUV as long as they are consenting and they do.
That's weird. That is super weird and super anti American. But that's
then the other part of it is when someone's making fun of someone you don't know really well around
an audience that you're not really around a lot, it's very telling what attacks they use.
That they think are going to wreck the person in that audience.
It's like for me, if someone seems to be displaying that they are gay,
I don't use that in an attack around people who like me don't give an f whose crotch you touch if
they're consenting. But around them, that's like the worst thing you can do and that's super weird.
>> Yeah, if it is, the at least arguably plausible source for any sort of critique it is at most
two point out hypocrisy from the individual around
topics around that issue. But certainly not like if you can look at Madison Cawthorn,
the current position that he holds in the republican party, all that he's done
since being elected and all that we've learned about him from before he was elected.
And this is the thing that you think should take him down that
he might secretly be gay. That is such an indictment of your own party, of your own
party in in two ways. One in, as Bret said that you think that will work amongst your audience,
you're really tipping your hand about the homophobia in your audience.
But also it's kind of a tacit admission that you don't think the other stuff will work. I think
that you sort of get that the substantive critiques whether he and as we'll get to
violate the stock actor, these other sorts of lost cities broken. Well, that's clearly not
gonna work because we know that our base doesn't give a damn about any of that but the gay thing.
Gay thing might do it anyway, as I said, there's other evidence and so for the second time in just
a couple of years, Venmo receipts have become critical to the future of the house. Here,
you have some payments from Steven Smith and Madison Cawthorn with the comments,
which Venmo for some reason forces you to put for every one of those, I don't understand it.
For loving me daily and nightly, the quickie at the airport, the stuff we did in Amsterdam
getting naked for me in Sweden and this is being presented as more evidence that he is gay. I think
that if a republican congressman was trying to secretly be gay and not have it be unveiled,
I think they would realize that this might give the game up.
So I'm going to say, I don't think that when he said the quickie at the airport,
I don't think they had sex at the airport. I don't think that's actually what happened Brett. I think
maybe they were joking. Maybe, what do you think? >> Right, all this is stuff that just looks
bad if you're a homophobe, like that's all it is
because I am as, I don't know, I'm a frat boy and the weird thing about frat boys
is they always like touch each other's butts and say stuff exactly like this.
It is super weird, especially like when they turn around and are wildly homophobic in two
seconds when they step out of the frat house. Like my friends and I are planning a trip and
like I sent a photo of my crotch, when I landed in Vegas saying these balls are ready to get wet.
I don't, I just full disclosure, I didn't have intercourse with any of them.
It's just a weird thing that, that I did because I thought it was funny because
there's many double entendres the same as the reach for the crotch. There's a photo of me and
another host that's a promotional photo where I'm just trying to make him uncomfortable by,
hovering my hand over his balls because, that was the dynamic we had.
Like a lot of guys have
now whether they should have that dynamic might be a different question because at least there, it
seemed like Madison Cawtthorn likes to joke about gay people, which that could be its own problem. I
would argue probably not the sort of thing that's gonna get him booted from the house real quick.
>> It's hard to find the interesting thing in a, in a story like this because it's also
stupid. But the interesting thing is the threads that the right is currently pulling
at that aren't there to tell you that everyone on the left is secretly trying to make you gay.
They're like, look, there was an email where someone at Disney said in the background of
maybe some movie, there might be two moms in front of one
stroller and that means that the right wants you to be so
freaking gay. It's crazy, they're grooming you. Meanwhile Madison Cawthorn is wearing lingerie and
exchanging these comments and touching people in the balls and getting his balls touched.
I'm just saying like I don't think that makes him gay. I don't and
if it did I don't give a whooping fund. >> Yeah, I saw it 100%. But wait, but what if
there's other, what if there's other news? I mean you heard that they might secretly live together?
Representative cawthorn says it's ridiculous. Stephen is his cousin,
their family, the fact that filed the complaint did no research which
look obviously they're going to deny pretty much anything but That seems plausible.
And apparently back in 2017 Cawthorn calls Smith, his third cousin once removed
saying at the time he was working as a hospitality professional at Chick- fil-A and living with him.
So that seems like a pretty good defense the guy is a relative is that they joke around
with and live with. Anyway, Nancy Gordon has responded to the most recent round
of attacks and we will summarize some of the ones that have come before because if you're
only checking in on the news at the end of the week, there's been a lot of wrinkles in this.
He tweeted many of my colleagues would be nowhere near politics
if they had grown up with a cell phone in their hands and I think that that's not a bad point.
He's saying that there is a new level of difficulty for
some younger people because they joke around a lot and a lot of their life is filmed.
And obviously if you want to, it's easy to find something that will make someone look bad
and that can be weaponized. And Madison Cawthorn doesn't like it, which is why he's against things
like Lives of Tiktok which takes a few seconds of video of a person and then uses that to organize
nationwide campaigns of harassment to try to get people run out of their job or possibly the city.
They would never approve of those sorts of things. Now look, I will try to be actually consistent.
I think we should try to contextualize the things that come out that said, it's
a little bit opportunistic for Madison Cawthorn to talk the way he did. He is saying though that
the establishment is targeting him with this drip campaign and there's been a lot of drip.
So starting with the cocaine orgies comment and Madison Cawthorn came out with, we've had,
I don't even remember in what order, but then he might have violated the stock act.
That he might have engaged in a pump and dump scheme fraud with Cryptocurrency,
the lingerie photos have come out, he's trying to bring a second gun through an airport.
I think that's more on him than the establishment. He was pulled over by cops I think twice now
because basically none of the paperwork he has for his car license is valid. And I'm probably missing
things honestly Brett but it definitely seems like they're coming after him. I would just say
this is the weakest of all of the reasons to try to get him booted from the house.
This is, it depends on on your perspective and right now you've got people,
I would argue that the establishment is reading everyone correctly and so is the mega wing and
they are coexisting right now and everybody's getting what they want. Listen, the difference
between the republicans and the democrats, there's many but one is the democrats don't care
if there's a video of you putting your hands near a consenting adults crotch, like they don't care.
They give a give a crap when you do weird stuff to someone who's sleeping al Franken. Like
that is something that they do care about. But the right wing does not care that they know
that the right wing's establishment knows that they have an unholy marriage with their base.
And they play and they manipulate it in every possible way and the base at least gets catered
to in that situation and they get things that they want. Usually it's stuff that is not going
to change their life monetarily in any way but the left just doesn't do any of that.
The left looks at their base and it's like no, I'm actually the pure progressive and the base
is crazy and you can't have the things that we know you want because we campaign against it.
We campaigned for it. But they just don't really have that relationship where they
will at least placate their base with kinds of things that they might want.
That's difference. >> 100%.