quarterback Case Keenum wasn't checked for a concussion. And
nobody got punished because there were so many people who
screwed up is that the loophole for team splitting
responsibilities because with multiple people's,
nobody's fully responsible. And yeah, that's the point that we
make in Playmakers. And I argued it time, there are so
many people with their finger on the button to,
to shut down the game. And check someone for a concussion
that that everyone with the finger on the button is
deferring to someone else and nobody wants to be the one to
present.
Is the button and stop again,
especially in crunch time
games on the line,
we're going to take out the quarterback.
of one of the teams
when
If you take him out and you put in his back up, all of a sudden
all hope is lost. We've seen that
in big games, whether it was
the Panthers Broncos
week 1 2016. When Cam Newton was being bruised and battered
and nobody said maybe he should come out and get checked as
they're driving down the field for a potential game-winning.
Field goal I think the field goal was missed and the Broncos
won that game, whether
it's playoff game
and Julian Edelman.
Remember in the Super Bowl, Julian Edelman got his Bell rung.
Never got taken out to be.
Checked, it's happened before.
And
fortunately, for the NFL there hasn't been a worst case
scenario with someone who has a concussion was left in a game
and got another concussion. It had some serious health
consequences, that's the risk. But the other side of that
coin for the NFL
and coin is always the operative word,
you don't want to take out a key player,
in a key moment of a key game
and have that affect the outcome of the game, if quarterback or
some other important players in available and it's not easy,
it's not easy. The NFL is lucky that there haven't been many
major controversies on that point in recent years. And one
of the reasons is they're doing everything.
They can to minimize the situations where somebody would
even potentially have a head injury. It's still unavoidable
to a certain extent, but as they carve away the different
circumstances where a head injury can happen. They make
certain techniques illegal. It does as a practical matter.
Reduce
the total number of situations where somebody could get
a concussion during games and they're trying to reduce
the number of concussions, Actions during games because they
understand it can be if on addressed and exit
existential threat
to the entire operation.
We have deep and policy again how can the NFL or any rich and
powerful people for that matter? Push any case they want
the Supreme Court shouldn't be used more for things affecting
more / most Americans. Let's pretend it's a legitimate
Supreme Court for this exercise
and not the current Supreme Court
hears what the NFL does. And this has come up as it relates
to the NFL's obsession with arbitration, the secret rig
kangaroo. Court of Roger Goodell that they try to push
every controversy into
they did it with the st. Louis relocation case
pushed it through the Missouri courts. And then when they
didn't get the ruling, they wanted their, they filed what
they call a petition for writ of certiorari to the US Supreme
Court.
And
Whether you exhaust all your appeals
in a state, or you exhaust your appeals in the federal system.
The last-ditch effort is to ask the Supreme Court to take up
the case and there are literally thousands
of petitions every year that go to the Supreme Court.
Everyone's got the right to do that. It's not a matter of
the rich in the powerful,
everyone's got the right to ask the Supreme Court to take up
the case and the Supreme Court only takes up a handful of
cases every year
and I want to get into the details as to why the Supreme
Court makes the Asians did it makes but bottom line is, you
have the right to take it up. You have the right to try to
convince the Supreme Court, to agree, to hear your case
now sometimes.
What is good news on the front end. Hey, the Supreme Court's
taken my case becomes bad news. The Supreme Court is taking
the case to rule against you
but you you lose if they don't take up the case anyway. So
at a minimum you delay, the eventual, defeat if they take
up your case and you have a chance of winning but it's not
a some nefarious thing that is reserved
only to the rich and Powerful. Anyone can do it. It's not all
that expensive and it's usually something. That it fails
because the Supreme Court again only takes up a few cases. A
year,
PFT p.m. Posse play all sorts of different topics today from
the PFT p.m. policy account. How would T be 12? Owning
a piece of a team? IE, the Dolphins or a promise to be
offered a piece of the team upon retirement be treated with
regards to the salary cap. Well, there was an issue with
John Elway
years ago, under the salary cap, and Pat, Bowlen wanted to
give them a piece of the team and and something blew up there
and I saw I saw someone
do Math that if it had gone through Elway would have made.
Hundreds of millions of dollars as part of the sale of
a Broncos. Now, the salary cap is a factor but there are ways
around it and you have to work your way around it and it would
have gotten strange and awkward if
Tom Brady had bought a piece of the Dolphins
and then became the quarterback of the Dolphins but really, if
you sell it for fair value,
if you say it's like, I'm going to, I'm going to give you 10%
of the team for ten dollars. That would be a sign that
something is amiss. If it is consistent with the value of
the team,
then you don't get into a salary cap issue but it's
definitely
A potential Minefield for any team that would try to do
something like that. It's one of the reasons why it rarely if
ever gets done.
Tom Marshall, otherwise known as Arizona UK, is it
inevitable? That any suspension for Deshaun Watson will be
reduced on appeal? My I don't think it's inevitable. I think
if anything it's inevitable,
that it would be increased on appeal.
Because I think the NFL comes in
minimum, one year
with an indefinite suspension aimed at protecting the NFL in
the event, there are more cases filed against DeShaun Watson in
the future
judge Sewall Robinson, reduces it. And then Commissioner
Goodell says, no not good enough.
What we're going to,
we're going to increase it back to what we originally wanted.
So I don't think it's inevitable, it's reduced.
I think if anything it's inevitable, it's increased. But
there's
even then, who knows? And this is all new territory.
The NFL hasn't implemented this procedure before, it was
adopted two years ago. We'll see how it plays out, but
I would not say it's inevitable, that is going to be reduced on
appeal. If anything, I would think it would be increased
on appeal,
Robbie NYC given the events last week and Supreme Court
land. And the NFL official lack of a statement. Do you agree
that the nflpa pales by comparison to the NBA
pa?
And is that the main reason? Well,
The NBA and the NFL are two different leagues, obviously.
And the unions are different. And right now, the nflpa
Basically has a leadership vacuum because demora Smith who
still doesn't have a contract for his final term
is in the process of being replaced. Once they find
the next nflpa executive director and it was reported last week
by Ben Fisher of sports Business Journal that
the executive committee of the
nflpa has hired a search firm
to help them identify candidates.
See that? That's the challenge.
The executive committee is made up of a bunch of players who
now have to figure out,
who's our next executive director going to be. We need
some help here. This isn't something you do everyday and
hasn't happened since 2009 when they hired be Smith.
So,
I think right now,
it's a difficult time to expect the nflpa to do much of
anything because they are in a period of transition that has
lasted since last October and who much, who knows, how much
longer
it will last, but it's a great point because it's not like
the union has come out and said anything
regarding Friday's decision
and maybe the NFL won't say anything unless and until
the union pushes it
to do so
Shawn. I have a shire.
The saints were criticized, for being over aggressive in
the 2022 draft, but based on your reporting on the Cowboys and
dolphins deal, mr. Payton, could it be the Mickey Loomis
has an idea of the Hall of Pixie is going to get for
Peyton in 2023.
I
you, are you replenishing a first-round pick next year
mean?
The way I hear it, dolphins are ready to give up the first
round. Pick for Sean Payton. Now after he's out for a year,
Does does the value begin to drop?
Depends on how many teams want, Sean, Payton.
There could be multiple teams, jockeying to get Sean Payton
next year and the reality is even though the formal process
plays out a certain way,
It all kind of gets worked out behind the scenes before you
even initiate launch sequence because the way it works is
new team contacts old team
and says, we'd like to negotiate with your coach who's
under contract with you
old team and new team work out. Compensation that would change
hands. If new team hires the coach, then once that
compensation is worked out. New team has the green light to go,
talk to the coach. And this isn't a situation
where coaches just sitting there minding his own business
and all the
sudden gets a knock on the door. Some new team wants
a higher. It's like, oh, that's a shock to me. Everybody kind of
knows what's going on before it happens. So,
look, they're aggressive this year
to trade up in the draft.
And I think they feel pretty good about their team this
year.
And yeah, maybe the fact that they know
that they're going to get some value for Sean. Payton next
year, made them more willing to kind of go all in with what
they have. The Saints are kind of in an unprecedented spot.
Can you think of a time where
A team's head coach leaves?
A head coach, who had become
so synonymous with the organization and so widely
viewed as responsible along with Drew Brees for its
success. Is he leaves
pretty much everyone else States?
And now we see how it goes.
No new coach brought in
no new personality
to change things around. And I think the Buccaneers in 2002
Tony Dungy out Jon Gruden in. This would be kind of like Tony
Dungy out and Monte kiffin becoming the head coach of
the team
of the 2002. Buccaneers
This is Dennis Allen stepping in
as the head coach and we saw him do it last year and shut
out the Buccaneers in Primetime.
So it's an intriguing experiment
that I can't remember, ever happening in the NFL.
And and I think the Saints
by virtue of the fact that they gave up
draft Capital to move up in the draft this year. They believe
they may be onto something. When you look at the NFC,
who's to say that they don't have a chance
to be highly competitive
with the Buccaneers, who they have swept two straight years
in the regular season
or other teams in the NFC, where are the great teams in
the NFC. We assume the Rams are going to be great, maybe they
will be,
but let's not assume the Saints are going to be horrible. Just
because Peyton's gone. It's going to be an interesting
analysis and I look forward to the day
when Sean Payton coaching some new team
crosses paths with the Saints because it's coming. I'm not
sure about many things.
But the day is coming,
when Sean, Payton will be coaching a team
against New Orleans Saints.
Tacos and Jen NFL says it will push for a lengthy
unprecedented suspension for Watson. How long is that they
have done your suspensions before? Maybe
two years? Well, it's been reported and I have no reason
to doubt it. That the NFL is looking for indefinite, at
least a year, the NFL is concerned about other cases
being filed. That would change the analysis and I think
the NFL is concerned about its ability
to go back and punish DeShaun Watson again later. So, let's
just do it all now, indefinite.
And then by the middle of next, march,
We should know because by then the statutes of limitations
will expire assuming he stopped with the social media, private
massages when he was sued
the first time. Assuming that, that was the end of it and
there's no one after mid-march of 2021
who's going to come forward and say, hey, still doing it folks,
he did it again.
By the middle of next march, we should know the full Universe
of claims against DeShaun Watson. So maybe to be a year
maybe longer
that's all to be determined in the coming days weeks and
hopefully not months. Hopefully it's just days and weeks.
Let's see what else we have here.
Burn Unit Burn Unit. Where you at here?
When it was reported, that Jimmy G is hoping for a quick
resolution. Once you can throw is the indicating, the trade
talks are happening and coming.
Fruition
of, or is this supposed to be pressure on the Niners? Look,
this is one of the more intriguing.
Dynamics as we get closer to Camp, it was reported over
the weekend that Jimmy G will be cleared to throw soon.
We expected that
once he's cleared to throw
then.
Maybe he gets traded, the 49ers created, the impression. They
had to trade, ready to go.
And then
the surgery happened, it was over
and at times, I wonder do, they know something we don't know.
Is there a team out there to just secretly waiting for Jimmy
G to be cleared and they're going to trade form, like
the like the Texans
are the Texans ready to trade form
there. Behind Davis, Mills, Davis Miles Davis, Mills Davis
Mills and then who will go get Jimmy G? He wants, he's
cleared, that could happen. He's tough to deal with his
contract 25 million for this year
with no
Contract Beyond 2020 to
Jimmy G. He's got a lot of power here.
Because if someone's going to trade for, they're going to do
something about his contract, extended reduce it, they're
going to want to do something. All I have to say, is no.
And at some point, it gets cut
and then the dance gets awkward,
if the 49ers don't trade him in Camp opens, and he shows up and
he says, hey, I'm here, your injury-prone, quarterback is
reporting for Duty
and maybe he's going to get injured again and you're gonna
have to pay him 25 million in 2022. That's possible.
Could get ugly, could get awkward and another 49ers like
to hide behind that that notion that Jim. He's a nice guy, Jim.
He's not going to upset the apple cart was about time for
Jimmy to upset the apple cart and we'll see if he does if
he's not traded or released before the
start of training camp, worst case scenario for him,
you get to the end of the preseason, he's perfectly healthy,
the 49ers go to them and say, we'll keep you or trolling.
We're only going to pay you ten million dollars this year and
if you don't like it you get cut. He gets cut. Where's it
going to go
unless there's some fluke, Teddy Bridgewater. Otter injury
and and those happen. Very rarely quarterbacks are largely
off-limits during the preseason and training camp. They don't
play very much the starters, don't during a preseason. So,
it's,
you know, that one falls behind Baker, Mayfield on the scale of
awkward quarterback situations. It could get very awkward
and we've seen some indications that suggest Jimmy G is not
going to play along. We'll see what happens if and when Camp
opens and he hasn't been traded
or released.
Let's see.
One more question real quick because I want to make sure
everybody understands this it from Louis United does
the nflpa have a responsibility to fight for the Sean wants when
it comes to his suspension? Are they obliged to take his side
in this? How does that whole situation work?
This is very simple.
The NFL players Association has a duty under federal law.
To defend DeShaun Watson without question and absolute
Duty. It's called a duty of fair representation. It's part
of membership in the union.
When the employer comes after you
and tries to discipline you,
the union,
you pay your dues, you remember. The union has
an absolute right to defend you.
It becomes problematic. When for example, Richie Incognito.
Jonathan Martin. You've got one Union. Member who's the victim?
Another Union. Number whose the aggressor gets a little
awkward, not awkward in this situation.
There's no one involved in any of this.
That is also represented by the nflpa.
So, yes, the union will fight aggressively and as I mentioned
earlier, Jeffrey Kessler is on the case. He has been a thorn
in the side of the league for years,
and he will push a very aggressive argument as
mentioned earlier about the idea that
DeShaun Watson punishment must be proportional to three owners
through the weren't punished at all,
or were only Mildly punished under the personal conduct policy,
where that issue goes, may have a long way toward determining
what happens to DeShaun Watson. Again, we'll be tracking it
every day
this week and Beyond and everything else that's
happening in the NFL slowest week of the year.
My, but it's going to be a busy week in the NFL and will be
here with you every step of the way. Thanks for some of your
time.
We'll talk again, tomorrow