Right. Yeah, I feel like they now I don't think they're doing
this to have a guy that can develop quietly behind
the scenes.
I think this is a move to get a couple of big pack players now
or or yeah, stepping stone toward making a move up right
to get a quarterback, right since Jameis Winston may not be
there. Long term answer.
I'm in the first place, my brain went to Mike.
Was when teams make these types of Trades. Usually it's usually
for something, you know in particular like you've talked
about and I'll like it's for a plier
or at least a position
that they're looking at
and that's where I'm, I don't know exactly what the Saints
are doing going to be doing. Obviously. I don't but the two
things that come to my mind, the first one being
yeah. Is there a top-tier player that they're looking to
make a train and get up, you know, a Significant of number
amount of spots. Here.
Is there a quarterback they think might fall, you know,
to 12 or 13 or being the eight or nine range. And now this
gives them the ammunition to get there. That was where my
brain went first. Mike. No,
so that's where but I don't know. I mean, what do you what
do you think there? And I feel like if they were going to do
that, why not try to
trade with the team?
Maybe a little higher. I mean, I know they need the assets and
the Philadelphia Eagles had the pics, but
I guess, Where I'm a little confused about what they're
trying to do there,
but you're right. Usually when you talk about making a trade,
ya up and that's essentially what they did. They gave up
future assets and current assets to move up to get that
selection
in the top 20.
Usually it's for a player or there's so it's not just to
have it. It's not just to have right. You know what we'd like
to have? We decided we've got one first-round pick. We've
decided we just kind of like to have to, well, why don't we
just wanted to have to Yeah, right. There is a
strategy for it. They've done the math. They've done the mock
drafts internally. We know the teams do them with every
possible permutation. Right? What guys do we think are going
to be there with those two picks that we have?
Do we want? Those are the two guys we want. We've we've run
it every way possible, and we keep coming back to no matter
who the first 15 guys are off the board. Yep,
the way that it falls after that. We will be thrilled with
the two guys. We get or yes. Our this is a stepping stone
to stepping in front of
maybe the Carolina Panthers had six my
path Panthers all Juiced up about maybe getting
a quarterback at 6:00. Maybe there's a quarterback that
the Saints decide. They really like and what Sean Payton out of
the mix, you know, Sean paint, one of the show Watson guy, the
Saints became DeShaun Watson
focused. And now maybe there's other guys, that Payton wasn't
all that thrilled about, but now that who, you know,
the folks who are there doing their evaluation? I like we kind of
like my
Aquila. So we kind of like, Kenny pick it up
playing and dum, dum, got to worry about the tiny, little
hands on Kenny Pickett. So I, you know, I
I feel like that you just don't do this. Haphazardly. I don't
know. I don't know play here and it's either.
We think we're going to get two guys. We really love
where we are or we think we're going to slap these two
together and we're going north to get a guy. We really love we
write that, you know,
and and I said, I thought there was two things, we hit
the first one, maybe the player, the quarterback and all that.
Right
now to what you're saying. Like panthers it. Well, what's it
going to take to trade up to get up there now? I mean, hey,
New Orleans, gave up a lot yesterday, just to get
the extra pick in the first round. Get to pick from
the Philadelphia Eagles. How many more first round picks you
going to trade, to move up to get a quarterback, or jump
the Falcons or jump the Carolina Panthers.
And that's where I kind of stopped because as I go down
that road, I go there, there's not a quarterback in this. If
start trading 3 and forced fourth round. Future, first
rounds for first rounders for
at least, not in my opinion.
And I think that would be probably be consensus around the NFL.
I mean, again, we've talked about this class. This is not
a class that blows anybody away. I mean, I don't think most
people, can he pick it? Might be the number one quarterback,
but nobody looks at them as had the guy that have the highest
ceiling
so that kind of tells you.
So when I think about it that way I go
wait, then that doesn't make sense where they're going to
give up the whole farm for this crew right here. I don't know,
maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they believe in one,
I kind of came to what you came to Mike.
That the Saints are a team. That's kind of a rebuild retool
mode. They have more than
two needs on their football team,
they do but I think what you do in securing yourself and I'll
what I just want to make sure I get these right picks 15 and
19.
Let's just say it's yeah. Oh sorry, they need. Yeah 16. Sorry.
They need a pass rusher. Cam Jordans coming to the end of
the career. Marcus Davin. For it. He's getting that the end
of his rookie contract.
We know wide receivers definitely in need and we don't
know the current status of Michael Thomas. Even if Michael
Thomas is back and all systems go they need a receiver.
And then the other thing is they just lost Terron Armstead
and they got some other guys, kind of,
you know, getting up there to to where I would think they're
Ritu thinking about retooling offensive line. And that's
where I kind of go back to what you think Mike like pick 16 and
19.
You're pretty much assured
through doing the mock.
Laughs and figuring things out. They you're you're going to be
able to address two of those three spots on your team. If
not another spot. I'm not talking about those are to me
the three most glaring needs, but I think that
that would be the logic. I guess if I was them and I think
we're onto something there. It shows the urgency yet. We've
got to help make this team better.
Now, we've got to make an impact now and there's an opening
for the Saints in the NFC. Yeah, with the
migration of talent veteran town, at least from the NFL. FC
to the AFC and a sense that the Rams and the Buccaneers are
the top two teams in the conference.
The Saints have swept the Buccaneers in the regular
season, two straight years. The Saints can compete with
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
They beat them when Sean Payton wasn't available, due to
a covid positive and Dennis Allen, slid into the head
coaching spot and shut out the Buccaneers. So yeah, we need
impact players now when you guys who can play now and we
think that we're going to
get at. 16 and 19 two guys
who can address immediate needs
and make us better. Write less. They are unless they are. Hey,
when you mention the Falcons, I mean, that's what you got. Two
teams in your Division. I know
they're looking at quarterback, right?
And if there and
look, No One's Gonna
Get a billboard outside of their team facility. That tells
us this, if the Saints have fallen in love with
one of these guys,
But I think back to the Patrick Mahomes example,
the Saints kept their cards, close to the vest. Yeah.
About Mahomes, the Chiefs, kept their cards, close to the vest
about Mahomes. The draft experts didn't know, to put my home's,
as the best quarterback
in the draft, at the top quarterback to go, or at least
the top quarterback. That should go. Maybe if they had
the Bears would have, said, hmm. We're looking at this true
biscuit. Your Sims dead. Plus her simple there
well, but that's good. I should listen to you.
They should listen to you.
What a different world. It would be if Patrick Mahomes was
a bear. Quarterback, but
but you know, maybe they, maybe they're
there.
I just, I can't. Yeah, that out here cause I know the fact that
you got the Panthers at 6:00, huh, who are desperate for
a quarterback and they can't lure an established franchise
quarterback to go there
and the Falcons at number 8 who gave up Matt Ryan for,
you know, a lukewarm bowl of soup and they're going to go
forward, Marcus, Mariota, or at least they want us to think
that and right, surely that's not their plan. So if you can
jump
Both of them
and and you know, maybe they've already talked to Joe Shane,
the Giants. Jim.
What's it going to take to get you to give up the fifth pick?
Well, you know, I'd be I'd like to have a couple pics. I'd like
to have to first rounders. What will give you next year is no,
I want, I want to this year. Okay, we'll go get one.
But we don't know.
We don't know. We don't know and we won't know because
here's the thing.
If you are the Saints you don't move up to five. Definitely not
until five is on the clock, right? Because if you move up
to five now.
Wow, and then gonna Hammer so the Saints go to for. Yeah,
that's why. When you're going for a specific player you wait
until the team that you're doing the deal with
is on the clock. If you do it, prematurely,
you're blowing your opportunity
to possibly get that guy, because then you get LeapFrog
by. Whoever else wants him. Instead. I hear you. I mean,
I the logic, I get that. Totally, I do,
you know, I again I do wonder what its gonna take.
I think, if you're talking about like, the scenario you
threw out there the Giants, At five. Yeah, those two first
rounders
and probably going to have to throw something else in there
as well. You know, for the New Orleans Saints to move up that
far. So
again, that's where I just look at it and go. Oh wait,
I mean again, I'm never going to be mad at a team for fallen
in the love for a guy, a quarterback and saying this is
our guy but wow, I would say wow because I just go. Oh,
there's not that guy this year.
They're just not and that's what would surprise me.
So I am very intrigued by what the Saints are.
Going. But my heart's at heart of hearts.
I want to say, they're doing what you're talking about that.
They look at, hey, we're kind of close. We're still kind of
good. We're not giving up. We're not rebuilding. Let's
address,
you know, two of the our three
biggest needs there before pick 20
and you know, retool our team and go from there. That's where
I kind of look at it is rather than
oh, okay. We're going to trade away all these future assets
with the team. That's got a lot of players that are getting up
there in age. So now we don't have the assets to replace them
to get a quarterback that
you know, just about everybody would tell you is all the call.
These quarterbacks. They're not in the same class as the group
last year for the most part. I think that's how a lot of
people viewed them around the NFL.
So that'll be the interesting thing to me, unless there's
some other player, they've evaluated that they like that.
They feel like they can jump up on and that to me would be
a pass rusher or
some sort of left tackle.
If they just had wove, this amazing greater evaluation, but
interesting move yesterday.
And certainly one, you don't see a whole lot in the NFL when
it comes to the draft.
Let's remember this too. What with the Saints doing a couple
of weeks ago. Who are they trying to get? They were trying
to get the Chamois? Yeah. So quarterback is clearly on their
mind. They could have re-signed Jameis. Winston
without even starting down the DeShaun Watson path,
but Winston was clearly the fall back
to deshauan, barely Watson was the guy they wanted. And
we saw with the Browns gave up
to get DeShaun Watson.
We know it was not going to be
Be easy to get DeShaun Watson away from the Texans.
So you already have the Saints who were willing.
They've stretch the rubber band
is my point. Yeah, they've already stretch the rubber band
when it comes to giving up a lot of assets to go get
a quarterback. So
if there is a quarterback that they really love and they're
not going to tell us
They've already opened the wallet. They've already
stretched that rubber band. They're already in the process.
Potentially. Yeah of making that move. I hear you. Now,
they've got 16:19.
And what else does Joe Shane wand?
We don't know
but maybe they do
and look it all hinges on. I assume the guy they really want
being there. Yeah, exactly. Right. And so the the deal may
not a joke.
Sorry, Joe. Sorry Joe. He our guy,
our guy's not there or we would do it, but I just think it's
worth keeping an eye on that
given that I've got. I had theirs in the Falcon so hot and
heavy on a quarterback this year and all of a sudden out of
the blue through weeks before the draft. Here are the Saints
with two first round picks between 15 and 20 know I think
a lot of people around the league myself included. I mean,
yeah, there's you know you we're
all going. I may be the quarterback may be the quarterback.
Let's file that away.
You know, the other team you got to worry about you. Ted
said, Atlanta and Carolina, you know, Seattle's in that and
then that market to, they're sitting there at number 9. So
maybe there's a worry there. I don't know, either way. It was
an intriguing moved. Interesting
weird,
you know to I don't want to say weird and I don't want to say
stupid or, but just weird in the fact where you don't see
a trade like this. Go down to acquire
middle of the first round picks very often. I can't remember
one like this. I understand. What the Eagles. Did I get
that? You're a player in two drafts. You got two extra
first-rounder. Next year,
you moved up, what 93 picks in the first third round this year.
So from their standpoint that was like to me an easy deal.
Like hey, whoa, okay. Yeah, we'll take it
the Saints. I'm very interested to know what the thought
process is and where it goes.