>> INDEED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JEREMY
BASH, DR. ADALJA, KRISTEN
WELKER, OF COURSE, AND PETER
BAKER.
BAKER. HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI JOINS
ME NOW FROM CAPITOL HILL.
MADAM SPEAKER, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
IT’S GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THE PRESIDENT SAID THERE
WOULD BE MORE DEATHS BUT THE
VIRUS WILL PASS, THAT IT’S TIME
TO REOPEN THE ECONOMY.
AS WE SEE HOTSPOTS SPREADING
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, DO YOU AGREE
WITH HIM NOW THAT IT’S TIME TO
FOCUS MORE ON WHAT HE SEES AS
GETTING BACK TO NORMAL?
>> WHAT I THINK WE MUST DO AS
SCIENCE TELLS US, WE MUST HAVE
TESTING, TESTING, TESTING,
TRACING, TRACING, TRACING, AND
HAVE A NUMBER OF AN IDEA OF HOW
OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN AFFECTED IN
ALL COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. THAT’S WHY I’M SO ALL HERE
WORKING ON PUTTING AGAIN THE
NEXT C.A.R.E.S. 2 BILL.
IT’S ABOUT TESTING, TRACING,
TREATMENT AND ISOLATION, SOCIAL
DISTANCING AND THE REST.
RIGHT AWAY, RAPID AND ROBUST
TESTING SO WE CAN SEE AND TAKE A
MEASURE OF WHAT’S THERE AND NOT
TO DO SO IN A WAY ONE DAY THEY
HAVE A TASK FORCE, NEXT DAY THEY
DON’T.
DON’T. ONE YEAR THEY HAVE A VOLUNTEER
CORPS.
CORPS. THE NEXT DANE IT’S LOOKING LIKE
A HANDMADE GOOD FRIENDS OF THE
WHITE HOUSE.
WHITE HOUSE. LET’S FORGET ABOUT WHAT THEY’RE
DOING BECAUSE THEY HAD A BAD
CASE.
CASE. AND WHAT YOU’RE SAYING ABOUT
CHINA, YES, WE WANT TO KNOW HOW
THIS STARTED BUT WE WANT TO KNOW
WHAT THE PRESIDENT KNEW AND WHAT
HIS ADMINISTRATION KNEW AND DID
OR DIDN’T DO ABOUT IT.
BUT THAT’S FOR LATER.
WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SAVE LIVES
AND LIVELIHOOD, INDEED OUR
DEMOCRACY, ON THE STRENGTH OF
WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID LAST
NIGHT.
NIGHT. OUR BILL IS -- I’LL TELL YOU
MORE ABOUT IT IF YOU WISH.
>> I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
THAT.
THAT. LET ME FIRST ASK YOU ABOUT DR.
FAUCI.
FAUCI. THERE ARE SOME INDICATIONS WE
HAVE NOT SEEN HIM AND DR. BIRX
AS PART OF THE TASK FORCE FRONT
AND CENTER AT THE WHITE HOUSE AT
LEAST IN AT LEAST A WEEK OR
MORE.
MORE. LET’S TALK ABOUT DR. FAUCI AND
WHETHER OR NOT HE COULD APPEAR
BEFORE THE HOUSE.
WE KNOW HE’S SUPPOSED TO APPEAR
BEFORE THE SENATE BUT THE WHITE
HOUSE, MARK MEADOWS, WILL NOT
LET HIM APPEAR BEFORE THE HOUSE.
DONNA SHALALA ON AN EARLIER
HOURS HERE ON MSNBC AND FORMER
HHS SECRETARY AND MEMBER OF
CONGRESS SAID IT’S UP TO YOU
WHETHER OR NOT THE HOUSE
SUBPOENAS DR. FAUCI.
DO YOU PLAN TO SUBPOENA DR.
FAUCI TO TESTIFY?
>> WELL, WE’RE IN COURT RIGHT
NOW, SUPREME COURT AS A MATTER
OF FACT ON THE RIGHTS OF
CONGRESS TO HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER
THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
THREE COEQUAL BRANCHES OF
GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. AND DR. FAUCI, I WOULD HOPE DR.
FAUCI WOULD SAY THINGS IN PUBLIC
THAT WE WOULDN’T NEED HIM TO BE
SUBPOENAED TO SAY ABOUT HOW HE
SEES THINGS GOING.
I FEEL SAD FOR HIM AND ANYBODY
WHO HAS TO STAND IN THAT TASK
FORCE AND PRACTICALLY VALIDATE
WHAT’S COMING OUT OF THE
PRESIDENT’S MOUTH INSTEAD OF AN
OCCASIONAL CLARIFICATION.
OCCASIONAL CLARIFICATION. SO, AGAIN, WE WANT THE
INFORMATION.
INFORMATION. IT’S CLEAR THE ADMINISTRATION IS
AFRAID OF THE TRUTH, AND THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
TO SAY THAT THE CONGRESS, THE
HOUSE, IS A BUNCH OF HATERS IS
SO BENEATH THE DIGNITY OF THE
OFFICE THAT HE HOLDS AND SO
DISTANT FROM THE SERIOUSNESS HE
SHOULD BRING TO A MATTER OF LIFE
AND DEATH OF SO MANY PEOPLE IN
OUR COUNTRY.
OUR COUNTRY. HERE WE ARE, NATIONAL NURSES DAY
AND WEEK, PRESIDENT’S GOING TO
DO A PROCLAMATION BUT WE’RE
UNWORTHY TO PRAISE AND THANKS
OUR FIRST SPONTDRESPONDERS UNLES
GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED.
THEY NEED TO HAVE THE PERSONAL
PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.
PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT. THAT’S WHY WE HAVE IN ADDITION
TO THE TESTING, WE HAVE A BIG
ALLOCATION FOR STATE AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT.
GOVERNMENT. THESE PEOPLE ARE RISKING THEIR
LIVES TO SAVE OTHER LIVES AND
THEY MAY LOSE THEIR JOBS BECAUSE
OF THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF
THE CORONAVIRUS.
THE CORONAVIRUS. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY
RECOGNIZE SCIENCE, TRUE STATS,
DATA, WILL TAKE US OUT OF IT.
THAT’S WHY I WAS TALKING ABOUT
THE TESTING.
THE TESTING. SO WE WANT TO SAVE THE LIVES OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, WE WANT TO
SALUTE OUR HEROES WITH OUR STATE
AND LOCALS.
AND LOCALS. THAT’S A TRIBUTE TO THE
CAREGIVERS, THE POLICE AND FIRE,
FIRST RESPONDERS, EMERGENCY
SERVICES, TRANSIT WORKERS,
TEACHERS, TEACHERS, TEACHERS AND
THE REST, CUSTODIANS, ALL WHO
COME IN CONTACT WITH THIS IN
TERMS OF RISKING THEIR LIVES TO
SAVE OTHER LIVES AND NOW THEY
MAY LOSE THEIR JOBS.
SO WE WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD JOIN
IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A STRATEGIC
PLAN.
PLAN. YOU HAVE TO PLAN, TESTING,
TESTING, TESTING.
TESTING, TESTING. TRACING, TRACING, TRACING.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN THAT
REACHES EVERYONE IN OUR COUNTRY.
THE ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES TO
DO SO AND SHOW THERE’S A PLAN.
SO WHEN YOU’RE ASKING PEOPLE TO
SOCIAL DISTANCE, THEY SEE IT AS
PART OF A PLAN.
WE HAVEN’T SEEN A PLAN YET OUT
OF THIS WHITE HOUSE EXCEPTP --
>> SPEAKING OF SOME OF PLANS
THAT THEY’VE DONE ALREADY,
THERE’S REPORTING THAT THERE
WERE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH JARED
KUSHNER AND HIS VOLUNTEER FORCE.
YOU JUST REFERRED TO THAT, THE
HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS
LOOKING INTO POLITICAL
INFLUENCE, FAVORITISM, CONTRACTS
BEING AWARDED IMPROPERLY,
VENTILATORS NOT BEING PRODUCED,
PROTECTIVE GEAR GOING TO
POLITICAL FAVORITES.
POLITICAL FAVORITES. WHAT CAN THE HOUSE DO TO LOOK
INTO ANY OF THAT?
>> ALL OF THE COMMITTEES HAVE
THEIR OWN OVERSIGHT
RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT OUR NEW
SELECT COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY MR.
CLYBURN IS A COMMITTEE THAT WILL
BE LOOKING AT HOW THESE DOLLARS
ARE SPENT.
ARE SPENT. ONE OF THE EXAMPLES FROM THAT
SO-CALLED VOLUNTEER CORPS,
WHATEVER THAT THING WAS, IS THAT
SOMEBODY KNEW SOMEBODY WHO KNEW
SOMEBODY WHO SAID HE HAD X
NUMBER OF VENTILATORS, REFERRED
IT TO THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
THEY AWARDED A CONTRACT.
AND THERE WERE NO VENTILATORS.
WE HEAR THAT AGAIN AND AGAIN,
WITH MASKS AND THE REST.
SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING SPENT TO
THE TUNE OF TRILLIONS NOW, BUT
HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS FOR THESE
PURPOSES IS NOT WASTE, FRAUD,
ABUSE, PRICE GOUGING OR
PROFITEERING OFF OF IT.
SO THAT IN AN OVERALL GUIDE
ASSISTANCE WHAT THE COMMITTEE
WILL -- THAT NEW COMMITTEE WILL
BE DOING.
BE DOING. IT’S NOT ABOUT OVERSIGHT OF WHAT
THE PRESIDENT KNEW WHEN AND
WHERE.
WHERE. THAT’S FOR ANOTHER DAY.
BUT THIS COMMITTEE IS ABOUT HOW
WE GO FORWARD.
>> WHAT ABOUT DR. BRIGHT?
HE’S GOING TO BE TESTIFYING.
THE WHISTLE-BLOWER WHOSE
COMPLAINT ALLEGES A LOT OF
MISMANAGEMENT AND IMPROPER
SCIENCE, THROUGH POLITICAL
INSOLENCE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
AND PRESSURE ON HIM, AND HE SAYS
RETALIATION, WHICH SIDELINED
HIM.
HIM. >> SO SAD BECAUSE THIS IS A
REALLY RESPECTED SCIENTIST DOING
THE JOB, AND TO HAVE POLITICAL
INTERFERENCE INTO SCIENCE WHEN
LIVES ARE AT STAKE, THIS IS
NOTHING FOR THEORETICAL DOWN THE
ROAD, WOULDN’T IT BE NICE IF WE
HAD, IT’S ABOUT THE HERE AND
NOW.
NOW. SO, AGAIN, CONGRESSMAN OF THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND
COMMERCE, HE NEXT WEEK THEY WILL
HAVE HARING ABOUT THOSE
ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT
FORTH BY DR. BRIGHT.
BUT UNDERSTAND HE IS A PERSON OF
THE HIGHEST INTEGRITY AND
EXPERIENCE AS A SCIENTIST.
BARDA, THE ORGANIZATION HE
HEADS, IS THERE TO BE IN THE
FOREFRONT TO GET SCIENCE -- WE
ANTICIPATE THINGS IN ADDITION TO
RESPONDING TO THEM, AND THE
WHITE HOUSE WOULD INTERFERE, AS
INTERFERED IN THIS VOLUNTEER
THING, IS REALLY QUITE TRAGIC.
LOOK, WE ALL WANT TO COME
TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. WE ALL WANT TO WORK TOGETHER.
WE WANT TO FORGET THIS OR SAVE
THAT FOR LATER OR WHAT’S SO
IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT?
-OR-
-OR- OR WHATEVER IT IS.
THE FACT IS IF YOU UNDERMINE
SCIENCE, IF YOU UNDERFUND
TESTING, IF YOU EXAGGERATE THE
OPPORTUNITY THAT IT’S OUT THERE
FOR THE ECONOMY AT THE RISK OF
PEOPLE DYEING, THAT’S NOT A
PLAN.
PLAN. DEATH IS NOT AN ECONOMIC
MOTIVATOR STIMULUS.
MOTIVATOR STIMULUS. SO WHY ARE WE GOING DOWN THAT
PATH?
PATH? WHY DON’T WE -- EVERY WANTS TO
GET OUT AND WE THINK TO UNLOCK
THE LOCKDOWN IS TO TEST, TRACE
AND TREAT AS WELL AS ISOLATE AND
SOCIAL DISTANCING.
SOCIAL DISTANCING. AND WHEN THE SCIENCE TELLS US
THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING
DIFFERENTLY OR TO BE SOCIALLY
DISTANT WEARING YOUR MASK, DOING
THINGS IN A WAY THAT IS
APPROPRIATE.
APPROPRIATE. BUT NOT CHEERING PEOPLE ON,
GOING WITH GUNS AND SWASTIKAS TO
THE LEGISLATURE IN MICHIGAN AND
SAYING THESE ARE REALLY GOOD
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. WHAT I DON’T UNDERSTAND ABOUT
SOMEONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TASK
FORCE IS HOW THE CONCERN THAT
THAT HAPPENED AND IT’S DANGEROUS
AND THESE PEOPLE CAN TAKE THIS
HOME WITH THEM AND HURT THEIR
FAMILIES AND ALL OF THE REST,
BUT THEY NEVER SAY TO THE
PRESIDENT, DON’T LOOK FONDLY ON
THAT.
THAT. THAT’S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
IT’S IN DEFIANCE OF THE
GUIDELINES YOU’RE ASKING PEOPLE
TO HONOR AND YET YOU HONOR THOSE
WHO ARE IN VIOLATION OF THEM.
SO, AGAIN, HOW CAN WE FIND OUR
COMMON GROUND FOR THE FUNDING,
FOR THE TESTING, FOR HONORING
OUR HEROES AND FOR PUTTING MONEY
IN THE POCKETS OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE?
PEOPLE? WE HAVE TO DO THAT MORE
EFFECTIVELY AND WITH MORE MONEY.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY FOR
OUR DEMOCRACY, FOR OUR
ELECTIONS.
ELECTIONS. THIS IS ESSENTIAL.
LET’S COMPARE THE BIG -- THE
VOTER PROTECTIONS TO VOTE BY
MAIL AND THOSE WHO WANT TODON’T
VOTE BY MAIL.
>> YOU MENTIONED MASKS.
SHOULD THE PRESIDENT ROLE MODEL
WHEN HE’S OUT IN PUBLIC -- THE
VICE PRESIDENT SAID HE MADE A
MISTAKE AND SHOULD HAVE WORN A
MASK.
MASK. SHOULD THE PRESIDENT WEAR A FACE
MASK OR SOME COVERING?
>> THE PRESIDENT, IT’S A VANITY
THING WITH HIM.
IT’S A VANITY THING.
WOULD YOU THINK AS THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES YOU WOULD
HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO HONOR THE
GUIDANCE THAT YOU ARE GIVING
OTHERS IN THE COUNTRY.
YES, HE SHOULD HAVE WORN A FACE
MASK.
MASK. BUT IT’S REALLY ANOTHER
INDICATION AS WE TELL EVERYONE
TO WASH THEIR HANDS 30 SECONDS,
SOAP AND WATER, TOP AND BOTTOM,
WASH YOUR HANDS, HYGIENE AND
SANITATION, VERY IMPORTANT IN
FIGHTING THIS.
FIGHTING THIS. APPARENTLY THE PRESIDENT HAS
WASHED HIS HANDS OF THIS.
HE’S JUST WASHED HIS HANDS.
HE WANTS THE TASK FORCE HERE
TODAY, GONE TOMORROW.
NO MASK.
NO MASK. WHY SHOULD I HAVE A MASK?
I’M PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
STATES. WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM HERE, BUT
FORGET IT.
FORGET IT. LET’S NOT MAKE THAT IMPORTANT.
LET’S MAKE IMPORTANT WHAT WE CAN
DO NEXT WORKING TOGETHER TO
HONOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR
HEROES TO TEST, TEST, TEST, TO
FIND THE TRUE EXTENT IN ALL OF
THE COMMUNITIES IN OUR COUNTRY
AND TO SAVE LIVES, LIVELIHOOD
AND LIFE OF OUR DEMOCRACY.
WE CAN DO THAT, AND WE CAN DO IT
WORKING TOGETHER.
WORKING TOGETHER. I’M VERY PROUD THE FIRST FOUR
BILLS WERE BIPARTISAN.
>> WOULD YOU PUT THOSE
PRIORITIES, YOUR PRIORITIES, YOU
MADE IT CLEAR WHAT THEY ARE, ON
THE HOUSE FLOOR FOR A VOTE
BEFORE YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT
WITH THE SENATE AND WITH THE
WHITE HOUSE?
WHITE HOUSE? >> THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION THAT
WE HAVE.
WE HAVE. THAT’S UP TO MY CAUCUS AND WE’RE
IN SIERS OF CALLSA SERIES OF CAL
WAY OR ANOTHER, BIGGER GROUPS,
COMMITTEE AND HAVE A CALL TODAY.
I DEFINITELY WILL PRESENT THAT
AS AN OPTION.
AND WHAT WE’RE DOING IS VERY I
THINK APPEALING.
THINK APPEALING. LET ME JUST SAY, THE GOVERNORS,
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS --
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS,
MAYORS, COUNTY EXECUTIVES, ALL
SUPPORT, ALL SUPPORT THE STATE
AND LOCAL, OUR HEROES BILL.
SCIENTISTS UNIVERSALLY SAY WE
MUST BE TESTING.
SO THIS IS NOTHING
CONTROVERSIAL.
CONTROVERSIAL. IT’S SCIENCE AND IT’S HONORING
THOSE WHO ARE RISKING THEIR
LIVES TO SAVE OUR LIVES BUT MAY
LOSE THEIR JOBS.
I THINK THAT’S BIPARTISAN.
>> BEFORE I LET YOU GO, DO YOU
WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE TO AN
87-YEAR-OLD SUPREME COURT
JUSTICE WHO JUST PARTICIPATED IN
AN ORAL ARGUMENT FROM JOHNS
HOPKINS AND WAS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT
IN THE FRONTLINES, STILL IN THE
FIGHT?
FIGHT? >> NOT ONLY MY MESSAGE BUT THE
MESSAGE OF SO MANY PEOPLE I WAS
ON THE TEXT ON SINCE YESTERDAY
TO HER.
TO HER. WE THANK HER FOR HER VALUES.
WE THANK HER FOR HER COURAGE.
WE THANK HER FOR HER STRENGTH
AND DETERMINATION.
AND DETERMINATION. AND WHAT WE DO, SHE’S JUST
ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT, GOD
TRULY BLESSED AMERICA WITH THE