Welcome back everyone
It's Charlie. We've got another first look at Venom 3 to break down
It seems like it's going to be somewhere near the opening scene,
If it's not the opening scene, and
I know a lot of you've been asking
about the actual Spider-Man of all these Sony spin off movies that they've been doing.
Because there were a lot of deleted scenes of them trying to put the symbiote on Tom Holland
during Spider-Man no way home.
So clearly they were trying at the time And Tom Hardy
has revealed that this is probably the end of the Venom solo movies.
be calling it Venom Last Dance, even though the title of the movie will be a little bit different,
Probably going to wind up being lethal protector.
But it definitely seems like Sony is trying to make Tom Holland
the live action Spider-Man of all these Sony spin off movies.
and it seems like they've been relying on a lot of the stuff that Marvel
has been doing with the multiverse, especially what happened in the Loki
series, tying everything in the multiverse in general together.
I know was a ton of questions. So we'll break it all down.
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This year.
In the next couple of years, we're going to be like Peak Spider-Man.
There are like four Spider-Man movies and shows coming out this year.
Then beyond the Spider-Verse Tom Holland's Spider-Man for 2025 26.
So Spider-Man fans are going to be eating good for the next couple of years.
but during the footage you see them filming a new venom three scene with Eddie in Los Mateo's Spain
what might be going on here is they might just be filming in Spain and it might be doubling for Mexico.
And he's still in Mexico after the events of the last movie.
during the movie, he's meant to be on the run since the end of Venom.
Let there be carnage in the Spider-Man No Way Home Post-Credits scene.
at the end of Venom, let there be carnage.
He fled the United States to Mexico.
That's where the hotel room, the scene on the beach was supposed to be.
And then he was transported to the MCU universe version, the hotel room by Doctor Strange.
His first spell during the Spider-Man No Way home post-credits scene.
He just walked from that room with the very surprised random dude to the hotel bar.
Getting super drunk, talking to Cristo Fernandez, the bartender, about everything
that had happened in the MCU up to that point, they recapped the events of the MCU
through Avengers Infinity War, Avengers Endgame with Thanos, the Snap, even Tom Holland's Spider-Man.
most people remember him as Danny Rojas from Ted Lasso.
The fact that they were talking about Spider-Man is a little bit funny because obviously it's Venom.
So they want Venom to be thinking about Spider-Man like he was on his way to New York City
to talk to Spider-Man, that they were going to face each other before Doctor Strange.
His second spell transported him back to his venom Universe.
what it looks like Sony is doing is they're trying to set up Tom Holland's Spider-Man
as their main live action Spider-Man, even though
I think that is just one of their contingency plans, I don't think it's actually going to go down this way.
Technically, they still own the movie rights to the character like Sony owns Spider-Man.
They just continue to share him with Marvel.
One movie at a time in a couple of spinoffs, but the deals
that they make are really only for that one solo movie.
Marvel's current contract with them
extends to Avengers five, but that's considered more of a cameo level role.
Sony's had mixed results with all their Spider-Man spin off movies and they definitely want to supercharge
those They have this Sinister Six separate franchise they're trying to set up.
They kind of do that in the Morbius Post-Credits scene.
there were all those Spider-Man Easter eggs that they tried to work into the Morbius movie
then took out at the last minute.
It sounds like a lot of that was in service of not hurting the performance of Spider-Man
No Way Home because it was doing so well at the box office.
But right now.
The Venom movies are their biggest box office earners, and they're not going to be doing
any more Venom solo movies after Venom three, apparently, according to Tom Hardy.
So they need to do something to legitimize this separate
Sony's Spider-Man universe, this Venom universe that they created.
And that would be introducing a live action version of Spider-Man.
Normally, I would love to say that it's going to be Andrew Garfield or Tobey Maguire,
but it just sounds like everything they've been doing, trying to connect this to the Marvel Universe is so
that Tom Holland can become that main Spider-Man for their universe.
but I think that's really just meant to be one of their contingency plans.
Like there is a symbiote saga that Marvel has planned for Spider-Man, but it won't be Spider-Man four.
I think they're saving Spider-Man symbiote for like Spider-Man five or Spider-Man six.
However, many more movies Tom Holland winds up doing eventually, if those do work out.
Right.
Now, Spider-Man four is supposed to be more of a friendly neighborhood,
ground level Spider-Man kind of movie, like taking him back to basics.
That's where there's been all this talk about him crossing over with the daredevil characters,
with the Kingpin character.
So if we see Spider-Man Symbiote Saga teasers, I don't think that will be too
like the very end of the movie.
Like, yeah, by the way, there's this piece of the symbiote this like slowly making his way to New
York City because remember, it was down in Mexico the last time we saw the symbiote.
is one of those little teasers that it sounds like
Sony is keeping in their back pocket, just like just in case things fall out with Marvel.
And we want to take the character back.
We have this Spider-Man symbiote saga that we're going to launch
right now the rumor about the plot is the real main villain of the movie is actually going
to be a version of the Xeno Phage, which is a race of cultures in the Marvel Comics
that feed off the symbiotes like natural predators to the symbiotes and for the most part, the only real
natural predator that Symbiotes is actually no God of Symbiotes They're meant to be apex predators.
So someone that can actually take them down is meant to be really, really powerful.
there have been a couple of deleted scenes and a couple of references to Noelle, but obviously no
is going to be a big character. During Venom three.
he be like an endgame.
Thanos Level threat for the Venom characters, they wouldn't go straight to that.
In a trilogy.
You say that for like some giant, huge universe crossover the report right now is that during
the movie, the xeno phage won't be from another planet like the Symbiotes as it is in the comics.
It'll be the result of the government's genetic experimentation on the symbiotes
in the previous movies to create their own anti-venom type of symbiote weapon.
But it won't literally be anti-venom from the comics, which is like a totally different character.
Anti-Venom was created when Eddie Brock is separated from the Venom symbiote briefly.
It left traces of the symbiote in his body.
He developed cancer and then went to one of Martin
Lee's feast shelters for help, which they featured in the Spider-Man games.
they've been featured on Maze, these shelters during Spider-Man, No Way home briefly.
What? Eddie Brock was there.
Martin Lee used his Mr.
Negative Powers to cure Eddie's cancer, but the process also caused the symbiote traces
in his body to change and bond with his white blood cells, creating a new hybrid anti-venom symbiote
It manifested fully for the first time when the regular venom symbiote tried to bond with his body again
all of his powers as you would expect, were mostly healing based
in addition to regular enhance attributes that all symbiotes give people.
it can cure any disease, any impurity in his body or other people's bodies.
And it's completely mindless, unlike the regular symbiotes.
So when Eddie Brock is wearing the anti-venom symbiote, he's fully in control.
they might eventually have some Easter eggs for anti-venom in the Venom movies,
but I don't think they have any plans to completely separate Eddie Brock
permanently or semi permanently from the Venom symbiote.
They've already done the symbiote body swapping trick a couple of times in the movies like within Waiting
Lady Venom There are also rumors that Patrick Mulligan will return as a version of talks
and as a lot of people assumed after Venom, Let there be carnage because of the ending with his character.
he got the toxin symbiote as a result of their final fight.
reportedly that character will go on to become another anti-hero symbiote like Toxin does in the comics.
And he and Venom want the team up to stop xeno phage who will be the true villain of the movie
in after that toxin which is going to continue being an anti-hero
in the universe on his own, which is pretty much how things go in the comics.
but toxins history is these are relatively new character.
He wasn't introduced till 2004 during a Venom versus Carnage storyline.
so circle of life.
The carnage symbiote realizes that it had been pregnant.
It was about to spawn another symbiote.
But it hated the idea of toxin before it was ever born because it was his prophecy
that the thousandth iteration of their lineage, the toxin symbiote,
would become way more powerful than any of them before.
carnage hates the idea of toxin even more than it hates venom.
What a happy family.
Because you have to remember that venom is kind of like toxins.
Grandfather.
It made a plan to kill toxin as soon as it spawned it.
So it's like killing your child right after it's born.
but the spawning process left him so weak that he couldn't do anything about it
but because Patrick Mulligan just happens to be nearby it puts the toxin
symbiote into him is sort of a temporary holding vessel saying that
he'll come back when he regained his strength to kill both of them.
so carnage didn't give Mulligan the toxin symbiote because he cared about him or he trusted him.
He was using him more like a tool, like a plaything.
then when carnage does become strong enough, a bunch of other characters stop him from killing toxin
Venom actually stops him, hoping that he can train toxin to fight Spider-Man
and Carnage he's also responsible for naming the new symbiote toxin.
He calls them toxin because his symbiote smells poisonous to the other symbiotes.
but he has all their abilities, just turned up to 11 so he can do all the same things that carnage can do,
the venom can do, but just more Later it's revealed that Mulligan has a strong enough personality
and sense of morality to show carnage, mercy when they fight so venom and carnage,
then realize that it's possible toxin could eventually turn good
and team up with Spider-Man against them, which obviously they don't want.
So then Venom and Carnage try to team up to kill Toxin
like I said, those three symbiotes relationship is very complicated.
eventually Peter Parker.
Spider-Man does help toxin during the fight, realizing what's going on
and then gives Mulligan the same version of the Uncle Ben speech.
With great power comes great responsibility in.
Mulligan walks away, spending his early days as talks and trying to teach the symbiote how to be good.
It's a little bit what you saw
at the end of the first Venom movie with Eddie trying to teach the Venom symbiote how to be good.
let me know in the comments, though, when do you actually want them to do this Spider-Man symbiote saga?
I think if everything works out, they'll actually just do that during Avengers
Secret Wars because they can be a little bit more like the comics.
Even though their movie version of Secret Wars will be very different from the comics, they could do
some Easter eggs from the comics like Spider-Man Getting the Black Suit during Secret Wars.
Doesn't It just makes sense to wait till then to actually give him the suit
because that's going to be well after Spider-Man four.
So you can do your friendly neighborhood ground level Spider-Man with Daredevil, with Kingpin,
those are the characters.
Then you can actually do symbiote stuff.
there's a bunch of big stuff coming up.
We'll probably get some more Madame Web footage pretty soon.
Really interesting to see how they tie that to the multiverse in a definitely
seems like it's going to rely on Loki in his multiverse tree, like they're slowly using the of web character
to pull all these characters together inside their Sony Spider-Man universe.
we're probably going to get that Deadpool three trailer at the Super Bowl.
So of course I'll post the video for it as soon as they release it.
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