NEED
NEED TO
NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW.
NOW.
NOW. IT
NOW. IT IS WORTH THEIR TIME.
>>> LET'S GET TO THE BIG
STORY, ONE OF THE BIGGEST
STATEMENTS MADE BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT, ONE THAT WAS
DISCUSSED FOR YOURS, BUT
EARLIER THIS MONTH IT BECAME
OFFICIAL.
OFFICIAL.
OFFICIAL. THIS IS THE MAN THAT MADE THE
DECISION, THE CHIEF OF CAMPUS
PUBLIC SAFETY AT PSU, TO SAY
THAT THE POLICE KILLING OF
GEORGE FLOYD, HE STAYED ON IT
BECAME CHEAP SHORTLY AFTER I WAS
ABLE TO TALK TO THE CHIEF ABOUT
HIS DECISION. IN OUR
CONVERSATION I GOT A BETTER
IDEA ABOUT WHO HE WAS BECAUSE
HE WASN'T ALWAYS THE CHIEF.
>> I KNOW, THE SHOW HAS BEEN
CANCELED, BUT WITHOUT IT WE
PUBLICLY WOULD NOT BE TALKING TO
WILLIE ALBERTAN.
WILLIE ALBERTAN. >> I WAS WATCHING COPS AND I
SAW THIS AMERICAN OFFICER, HARRY
JACKSON DOING POLICE WORK AND I
RESPECTED HIM AND I SAID TO
MYSELF, THAT IS THE KIND OF
PEACE OFFICER I WANT TO BE.
>> HE IS A MAN FULL OF
INTERESTING STORIES LIKE THAT.
HE WAS A STANDUP COMEDIAN. HIS
DECISION TO TAKE THE GUNS AWAY
FROM HIS OFFICERS WILL BRING
PLENTY OF ATTENTION.
>> YOUR OFFICERS, WHAT DO THEY
CARRY WHEN THEY GO OUT?
>> THEY CARRY BASIC POLICE
TOOLS.
TOOLS.
TOOLS. BUT IN THE FUTURE, THE NEXT FEW
MONTHS THEY WILL BE UNARMED ECO-
TRAN05 THAT IS A HUGE DECISION.
>> HE HAS SPENT 25 YEARS AT
THE LOCATION HE COMMANDS TWO
DOZEN OFFICERS AND PATROL THE
PSU CAMPUS DOWNTOWN.
HOUDE DEAR OFFICERS RESPOND TO
THIS INITIATIVE.
THIS INITIATIVE. FIVE IT HAS BEEN A BIG
CHALLENGE.
CHALLENGE. THEY TRUST MY VISION.
AND THEY DO A GOOD JOB.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLICE FORCE
HISTORY WE HAD A TERRIBLE
TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENED IN 2018
PRIOR TO THAT AND AFTER THAT
USE OF FORCE HAS BEEN MINIMAL.
THEY DID RATE JOB DE-ESCALATING
AND GOING OUT THERE AND BEING
THE PIT.
THE PIT.
THE PIT. >> WITNESSES SAY THAT JASON
WASHINGTON WAS BREAKING UP A
FIGHT WHEN HIS LEGAL FIREARM
FELL ON THE GROUND AND WHEN HE
REACHED TO PICK IT UP THE
OFFICER FIRED.
OFFICER FIRED. >> TRAINING, YOU HAVE TO
RETHINK TRAINING ENTIRELY, I
WOULD THINK?
WOULD THINK? >> YOU WOULD THINK, NOT
REALLY.
REALLY.
REALLY. WE ARE GETTING THE AND PERSON
AND RELATION TRAINING.
WE DO THAT BUT ANY SPECIAL
TRAINING -- OR ANYTHING OF THAT
NATURE PASS
NATURE PASS >> I GUESS WHAT I AM REFERRING
TO IF SOMEONE PULLED A FIREARM
OFFICER WOULD PREPARED TO FIRE.
AND PREVENT THAT PERSON FROM
HURTING SOMEONE ELSE.
WOULDN'T THAT CHANGE AT THIS
POINT?
POINT?
POINT? >>
POINT? >> WE WILL STILL HAVE A TASER,
WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN
PUT OURSELVES IN SITUATIONS THAT
IF THERE IS A POTENTIAL OF A
WEAPON WE WILL NOT BE THERE.
WE WILL HAVE BACKUP ARMED
COVER.
COVER.
COVER. >>
COVER. >> IS SOME THINGS SERIOUS
HAPPENS WITH AN OFFICER WITH A
GUN IS NEEDED, PORTLAND POLICE
COULD BE HERE?
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. WE ARE HEARING CONCERNS WITH
RESPONSE TIMES AND LOOKING AT
BUDGET DOWN THE LINE.
WE TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING
PORTLAND POLICE THEY HAD $30
MILLION TAKEN AWAY RECENTLY,
DOES THAT CHANGE, AT ALL THE
WAY THAT YOU HAVE BEEN AGAIN
ABOUT THIS THICKEN THAT THAT
BACKUP WILL NOT BE READILY
AVAILABLE?
AVAILABLE? >> NOT REALLY.
IF POLICE NEED THEM THEY WOULD
DROP ANYTHING THEY NEED TO DO
TO COME TO THE EMERGENCY CALL.
MAYBE A CRIME IN THE PAST OR
BURGLARY, THEY WOULD NOT BE
HERE WE WOULD INVESTIGATE THOSE
OURSELVES BECAUSE WE ARE POLICE
OFFICERS.
OFFICERS.
OFFICERS. BUT THOSE PARTICLES WILL NEED
IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.
IMMEDIATE ATTENTION. AND THE POLICE WILL BE HERE.
>> AS WE DISCUSS ALL THE MAJOR
ISSUES IN THIS COUNTRY, GUN
VIOLENCE IS ONE OF THEM.
ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE A
LOT OF AMERICANS HAVE ACCESS TO
GUNS.
GUNS.
GUNS. NOW, POLICE ARE GOING TO BE
ENGAGING IN THE COMMUNITY
WITHOUT THAT WEAPON, WHAT HAVE
OFFICERS SAID TO YOU OR HAVE
DAYS SAID ANYTHING TO YOU ABOUT
CONCERNS FOR THERE SAFE THE OR
SOMEONE'S POTENTIAL TO BE MORE
VIOLENT KNOWING THAT THEY
CANNOT MATCH THEM GUN TO GUN.
>> FIRST OF ALL, IT IS NOT
POPULAR.
POPULAR.
POPULAR. I HEARD PEOPLE ESPECIALLY LAW
ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE NOT HAPPY
WITH MY DECISION.
BUT I TRULY BELIEVE THAT SOME
COMMUNITIES, I AM NOT SAYING
THAT THIS WITH HAPPENED IN
PORTLAND OR ANY OTHER COMMUNITY
OR JURISDICTION OR MUNICIPALITY
BUT FOR PORTLAND STATE
UNIVERSITY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED
HERE.
HERE.
HERE. >>
HERE. >> DID YOU EVER THINK THAT YOU
WOULD MAKE A STANCE LIKE THIS?
>> I HAVE BEEN A COP FOR 32
YEARS, IN MY TIME I THOUGHT I
WOULD BE RETIRED BY NOW
FORGOTTEN BACK, TWO MONTHS AGO
I WAS THINKING ABOUT RETIRING
BEFORE I GOT JOB AS CITY CHIEF.
MY HOPE CAREER I WANTED TO MAKE
A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
THE POSITION I AM DOING RIGHT
NOW AS A CHIEF I AM MAKING A
DIFFERENCE.
DIFFERENCE. WHAT I AM DOING RIGHT NOW WILL
CHANGE LIVES, SO I FEEL
FORTUNATE TO BE IN THIS
POSITION BEING IN A POSITION A
MACRO THAT I WAITED MY WHOLE
LIFE FOR A HUGE INFLUENCE WITH
LIFE IN SOCIETY.
YES, A BIG DIFFERENCE.
>> HE THOUGHT HE WITH HIS
OFFICERS OVER THIS DECISION BUT
NOT A SINGLE PERSON HAS LEFT
HER GO BUT HE HAS BEEN GETTING
CALLS FROM NEW POTENTIAL
RECRUITS GO HE THINKS IT IS THE
RIGHT PLAN AND INNOVATIVE. SOME
OTHERS ARE INTERESTED IN THIS
PROGRAM AND IDEAS MOVING OVER
TO.
TO.
TO. HE
TO. HE IS
TO. HE IS FOR DEFINING THE POLICE
AS LONG AS THE MONEY GOES TO
THE RIGHT PLACES WITH EDUCATING
OR