"THIS OUGHT TO BE INTERESTING."
GOOD TO SEE YOU, PETER.
>> Sandra: BACKLASH AGAINST NEW
JERSEY DEMOCRATS UP AND DOWN THE
BALLOT.
INCUMBENT GOVERNOR PHIL MURPHY
PROJECTED TO WIN REELECTION BY A
THIN MARGIN AFTER AN
UNEXPECTEDLY STRONG CHALLENGE
FROM REPUBLICAN JACK CIATTARELLI
IN WHAT WAS CONSIDERED A SAFE
BLUE STATE.
A NEW JERSEY REPUBLICAN TRUCK
DRIVER ED DURR WITH NO PRIOR
POLITICAL EXPERIENCE PULLING OFF
A STUNNING UPSETORF A DEMOCRATIC
LEADER.
FORMER LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR
CHRISTINE TODD WHITMAN JOINS US.
THANKS FOR GIVING US YOUR TIME.
THE MARGIN OF VICTORY.
YOU LOOK BACK AT JOE BIDEN’S
MARGIN OF VEHICLE ALMOST 16% TO
PHIL MURPHY’S 1.51% MARGIN OF
VICTORY.
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE STATE,
GOVERNOR?
>> THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS
THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE STATE
BUT FOR THOSE NUMBERS, REMEMBER
THAT BACK IN 1993 -- 1992, WHEN
BILL CLINTON WON THE STATE OF
NEW JERSEY, HE WON BY 42
PERCENTAGE POINTS AND THE NEXT
YEAR I BEAT THE INCUMBENT
GOVERNOR -- DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR IN
THE STATE BY ABOUT 1.5
PERCENTAGE POINTS SO THIS IS NOT
THAT UNUSUAL BUT YOU’RE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THINGS ARE DEFINITELY HAPPENING.
YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN SOUTH
JERSEY.
THAT’S A HUGE BLOW FOR THE
SENATE PRESIDENT STEVE SWEENEY
-- SENATOR STEVE SWEENEY TO HAVE
BEEN OUSTED LIKE THIS BUT YOU
LOOK AT MORE NORTHERN COUNTY,
SOMERSET COUNTY WHICH USED TO BE
SOLID RED HAS TURNED OVER’S
SENATE SEAT THAT USED TO BE --
BELONG BASICALLY TO THE BATEMAN
FAMILY, A SOLID REPUBLICAN SEAT
AND THAT’S CHANGED SO THERE ARE
A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING.
I DON’T THINK IT’S AS SIMPLE AS
WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE AS FAR AS
WHAT THE MESSAGES ARE FROM THESE
ELECTIONS.
I THINK IT’S CLEAR THE DEMOCRATS
OUGHT TO GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER
IF THEY WANT TO BE TAKEN
SERIOUSLY AS THE GOVERNING PARTY
AND RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF THE
PEOPLE.
YOUNGKIN WHEN HE RAN IN VIRGINIA
AS PART OF HIS RACE EMBRACED
ISSUES THAT TRUMP HAD PUT
FORWARD BUT NOT TRUMP HIMSELF.
THAT’S A MESSAGE TO BE CAREFUL
AND JACK CIATTARELLI IN NEW
JERSEY EMBRACED NOT JUST THE
ISSUES BUT EMBRACED TRUMP
HIMSELF AND THAT WASN’T ENOUGH.
THERE WEREN’T ENOUGH REPUBLICANS
ON THE FAR RIGHT TO TAKE HIM
OVER THE FINISH LINE BECAUSE HE
COULDN’T BRING THE MODERATE
REPUBLICANS WITH HIM TO THE
EXTENT THAT HE NEEDED.
SO THERE IS THIS BALANCE HERE.
THE COUNTRY IS SAYING "COME ON,
PEOPLE, START ADDRESSING OUR
ISSUES.
STOP FIGHTING FROM THE EXTREME
ON THE RIGHT AND THE EXTREME ON
THE LEFT.
LET’S GET TOGETHER AND GET
SOMETHING DONE THAT MATTERS TO
US."
>> Sandra: INTERESTING TO GET
YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
YOUR COME-FROM-BEHIND VICTORY IN
THE EARLY 1990’S, WHAT THAT
PRESAGED IN THE HOUSE AND THE
SENATE IN THE STATE OF NEW
JERSEY, I TALKED TO LARRY KUDLOW
ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
HE SENDS HIS REGARDS AND TALKED
ABOUT COMING IN WITH YOU AND
WORKING ON THAT TAX-CUTTING
STRATEGY.
YOUR MESSAGE WORKED AND IT DID
CAUSE RIPPLE EFFECTS FOR YOUR
PARTY IN THE STATE OF NEW
JERSEY.
I WANT TO GET THIS IN HERE AND
I’LL HAVE YOU REACT TO WHAT I
SAID.
BY BRINGING UP EDWARD DURR, THIS
TRUCKER FOR A FURNITURE COMPANY,
RAYMORE AND FLANIGAN SPENT
$5,000 OVERALL FOR HIS CAMPAIGN,
NO POLITICAL EXPERIENCE STEPPED
IN AGAINST STEVE SWEENEY, A VERY
EXPERIENCED POLITICIAN WHO SPENT
A MILLION DOLLARS ON HIS
CAMPAIGN AND HE PULLED OFF THE
VICTORY.
WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU,
GOVERNOR?
>> FIRST OF ALL IT TELLS ME YOU
DON’T HAVE TO BE A MILLIONAIRE
TO WIN.
SECONDLY IT SAYS YOU BETTER PAY
ATTENTION TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
I THINK WHAT HAPPENED WAS
SENATOR SWEENEY GOT CONFIDENT
THAT HE WAS THE POWER BROKER.
THIS OTHER FELLOW, GEORGE
NORCROSS A BIG POWER PLAYER FOR
THE DEMOCRATS DOWN SOUTH AND
THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD THINGS
LOCKED UP.
I CAN’T IMAGINE WHAT HE SPENT
HIS MILLION DOLLARS ON BUT IT
SURE WAS A WASTE.
THAT IS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT
TURNOVER.
WHAT IT DOES, THOUGH, FROM THE
GOVERNOR’S PERSPECTIVE IS HAVING
KNOCKED OUT THAT LEADERSHIP
BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT DIDN’T GET
ON TOGETHER WELL, IT PUTS HIM IN
POSITION TO BE STRONGER IN THE
STATE AS FAR AS DEALING WITH THE
LEGISLATURE GOES.
INTERESTING TO SEE HOW HE
HANDLES THAT.
WHETHER HE STEPS BACK AND
REMEMBER REMEMBERS AS YOUNGKIN
HAS TO DO IN VIRGINIA ONCE
YOU’RE ELECTED TO THESE OFFICES,
YOU DON’T DO POLICY FOR YOUR
PARTY.
YOU DO IT FOR THE CONSTITUENTS.
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER.
YOU ARE THE GOVERNOR OF ALL THE
PEOPLE.
>> Sandra: HE WAS ASKED IN A FOX
NEWS INTERVIEW, DURR WAS ABOUT
HOW HE WAS AGE TO OUST SUCH A
SKILLED POLITICIAN.
HE SAID "I DIDN’T BEAT HIM.
WE BEAT HIM."
TO YOUR POINT, THAT WAS REALLY
THE STRATEGY THAT APPEARS TO
HAVE WON THERE.
HERE HE IS IN HIS OWN WORDS,ED
DURR.
>> THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY, THE
PEOPLE OF NEW JERSEY BEAT THEM.
THEY LISTENED TO WHAT I HAD TO
SAY AND I LISTENED TO WHAT THEY
HAD TO SAY AND IT’S A
REPUDIATION OF GOVERNOR MURPHY.
GOVERNOR MURPHY LOCKED US DOWN
AND IGNORED THE PEOPLE’S VOICE
AND SENATOR SWEENEY CHOSE TO DO
NOTHING FOR THOSE 18 MONTHS, AND
THE PEOPLE WERE ANGRY.
>> Sandra: FASCINATING TO HEAR.
LINDSEY GRAHAM SPOKE ON IT THIS
MORNING.
"HOW TO YOU EXPLAIN THAT?"
HE SAID "IT’S BACKLASH."
I WANT TO BROADEN THIS TO THE
REST OF THE COUNTRY.
TALKING NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK
RACES BUT TAKE THE BIG PICTURE
AND THE IMPLICATIONS THAT YOU
SEE, GOVERNOR, FOR THE MIDTERM
ELECTIONS IN 2022.
>> I GET BACK TO THE FAC THAT I
THINK THE DEMOCRATS SAYING GET
YOUR ACT TOGETHER.
YOU’VE GOT THIS CONTROL.
EVEN THOUGH UNFORTUNATELY, AND I
THINK IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE
REPUBLICANS SEEM DISINCLINED TO
MOVE ON ANYTHING WHEN THERE ARE
PROGRAMS WITHIN THESE BIG,
MAMMOTH PROGRAMS -- I THINK THE
IDEA OF SPLITTING THEM IS A GOOD
ONE.
GETTING IT DOWN TO WHAT WE WANT
AND NEED.
WE NEED JOBS.
INFRASTRUCTURE IS IMPORTANT.
PEOPLE CARE ABOUT MEDICARE.
DENTAL COVERAGE.
THAT’S SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY
SHOULD BE ABLE TO AGREE ON.
BOTH SIDES OF AISLE.
WE NEED TO SEE SOMETHING
HAPPENING.
IT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE
ARE JUST TIRED.
THEY’RE TIRED OF THIS AND THEY
DON’T THINK ANYBODY IS LISTENING
TO THEM AND IT’S GOING TO BE
THOSE CANDIDATES THAT PAY
ATTENTION AND REFLECK WHAT
THEY’RE HEARING FROM THEIR
CONSTITUENTS AND AGAIN, I WOULD
ARGUE TOWARD THE CENTER RATHER
THAN THE EXTREME BECAUSE THOSE
ARE THE ONES THAT VOTE.
50% OF REGISTERED VOTERS TODAY
AFFILIATE -- ARE UNAFFILIATED OR
INDEPENDENT.
THAT’S THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE
EVER HIT THAT NUMBER.
THAT SHOULD BE A WARNING FOR
BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS
THAT THE BEST YOU SHOULD HOPE IS
25% SHARE --
>> Sandra: PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF
THE RECYCLED, DIVISIVE POLITICS
WHEN YOU SPOKE YESTERDAY.