Thanks too. I want to talk a little bit
about remorse when it comes to Jodi Arias.
There's been so much talk across the country,
people saying they never heard
Jodi Arias utter the words.
I'm sorry, but can she change her image?
If she doesn't get the death penalty?
Can she change her image?
Can she somehow redeem herself?
Last night I asked her about
redemption and if she can ever
change this label that's been hung
around her neck of being a murderer.
Regardless of what happens with the jury.
You're going to have to deal with
the fact for the rest of your days,
however long that is,
that you killed someone.
How hard is that going to be,
and how hard is it for you to
deal with that? It's very.
It makes me feel very ugly
inside and I know that that was
just one day, but I feel like.
Even though it shouldn't,
it's going to define the rest
of my life and maybe beyond.
So. It's it's very difficult.
It's it's something that
I haven't processed or I
haven't really dealt with or.
It's something that's difficult
to face even still, so it's
something I'm going to be trying to
process probably till my last day.
And will come. When you can
forgive yourself. For what she did.
I think I may get there.
You've talked about spirituality a lot,
and you've said you've prayed for the jury.
Are you a religious person?
I'm not deeply religious at this point.
I still consider myself spiritual.
Do you believe in heaven and hell? Yes,
and if you do believe in heaven and hell.
Where do you think you're going
and and can you deal with,
if you think you're going to hell,
can you deal with that or do you
not think you would be going there?
I don't know if I believe in hell in the
traditional sense that a lot of people do.
I do believe that. I believe in
forgiveness and I believe in.
Mercy and I believe in second chances.
I do believe that going to heaven,
or the opposite of what hell would be,
is something that needs to be earned.
Can you then, in your final days on
this Earth, earn that, do you think?
Do you believe in in redemption? Well.
When I say earned,
I should probably clarify.
I think that Grace comes in and. It's.
There's no way that I could possibly
make up entirely for what I've done.
So I can all I can do is.
Do what I can? And.
The idea is that Grace fulfills the rest.
That makes up for the rest.
Do you think, when we're talking
about forgiveness, that Travis's
family will ever forgive you?
It's hard to imagine that they would.
I hope that they're able to someday.
I don't know what their
religious beliefs are.
But.
I know that. Christian based
faiths and the Mormon faith,
which Travis was Mormon.
I'm baptized Mormon.
It's required that we forgive
in order to be forgiven so.
I also read once. At church authority
had said that sometimes when you're.
So angry you're not able to forgive that.
It's enough to ask for the grace
to be able to one day forgive
even if you can't get there.
I don't even know if they're at that point.
I I wouldn't expect them to be.
Part of my interview last night with
Jody Arias talking about redemption
and remorse and her hopes that
one day Travis Alexander's family
can find a way to forgive her.
They certainly haven't done it yet.
They want justice here at this court.