Speaker 1: All right.
I want to talk about another one of these horrible incidents.
And listen, every time we have one of these A.I.M. incidents of assault, and that's really
what it is I talk about, mental illness clearly seems to be a component with these people.
The woman in this video, which some are calling an anti mask, Karen, I really am not big on
Karen because it's clearly a racially loaded term.
It's really applied to white women.
So I stay away from it.
I call this person a really bad person who also may be mentally ill.
This is another one of these incidents where a woman in Nebraska, some kind of covid Denyer,
some kind of a.
massacre is repeatedly coughing, coughing, coughing on the person who is filming.
And we're going to look at this and then we're going to talk about what crimes may have been
committed here.
So let's start with the story.
This was posted to the Lincoln, Nebraska sub Reddit a few days ago.
And the person who posted it username Jessopp Byrd on on Reddit says, So my kid and I were
at the store tonight to pick up a few groceries when this lady approached us and said politely,
excuse me.
And to be honest, I thought she was going to ask me for help or asked me where something
was.
I was about to say, I don't work here, lady.
When she asked me why we were wearing masks, that's when I realized she wasn't wearing
one.
I started walking away while replying because of the Delta variant and also because there's
a mandate.
Then she went on about how she was born and raised here in Nebraska.
And it's too bad some Nebraskans have turned into sheep.
She asked if I've had a vaccine and said that my kid and I don't need to wear masks because
we look young and healthy.
There were several other people around wearing masks, but for some reason she chose to pick
on me and my kid.
At the end of the video, some poor guy working there tries to intervene and basically told
us all just go our separate ways.
Karen walked away and I told the guy what happened.
He said it wasn't the first time he's had to deal with people like her at work.
I tried to continue my shopping, but the lady followed me around the store.
I told her she needs to keep her distance and her coughing on me was assault.
She kept laughing and saying, look at you.
It's so cute how scared you are.
By this time I was absolutely livid, trying my best to hold it together in front of my
kid.
I didn't finish my shopping.
I instead went to the self checkout to pay for my stuff.
She followed me to use the checkout right next to me.
I informed the employee manning the checkout.
This woman assaulted me by coughing deliberately, but I didn't wait around to see what the employee
would say.
So let's take a look at this video.
This this is horrifying.
And what's horrifying about it is it's less about the specific risk of contagion, but
it's that there are people in our country who would do this and who think that they
are making some kind of prescient point by doing this.
All right.
Let's take a look.
Let's take a listen.
Unidentified: If you excuse me, I'm coming through.
Speaker 1: So this is a disgusting person.
But is she also mentally ill?
I don't know.
I mean, you know, normal people don't behave this way, but even that term normal has become
very loaded and covid times and.
Unidentified: She's coughing out No.
You guys are so.
OK, whatever your.
Why don't you have a laugh, because I don't need to have one on.
And neither are you.
You don't know this Speaker 1: trick or not.
I my allergy, you know, Chernoff, by the way, how annoying are those fake coughs and
Speaker 2: how you got.
Yeah.
And so two years ago, before everybody started talking about covid, you were OK with going
out, not knowing you were.
Right.
You don't want my help.
I don't.
Yeah, she's happy now.
I have the energy and she got all freaked out.
I'm confused.
You don't know she's here?
No, don't.
No, she just said I don't know anything about her.
You don't know anything about my health.
I actually maybe I have a medical, OK, Speaker 1: medical, but I don't know if you
might have a medical care.
And now.
Unidentified: OK, the.
You have got hands and so, OK, Speaker 1: so I think you get the point now,
there were some people saying call the police next time, but one user on the Reddit post
about this had called the police this time, which I agree with.
There is video evidence of of a crime being committed.
OK, what crime?
We were looking into this.
And it seems as though in Nebraska, this is assault in the third degree.
This is Nebraska revised statute twenty eight three one zero assault in the third degree.
A person commits the offense of assault in the third degree if he intentionally, knowingly
or recklessly caused his bodily injury to another person or threatens another in a menacing
manner.
Assault in the third degree shall be a class one misdemeanor unless committed in a fight
or scuffle entered into by mutual consent, in which case it should be a class two misdemeanor.
So that's the most likely thing.
The other idea that's been floated is that coughing coronavirus coughing attacks might
be able to be prosecuted as terrorism.
And this is an article from What is the date?
This is from April of 2020 when these coughing incidents started where Nikita Malik, a contributor
to Forbes, wrote that covid-19 is considered a biological agent, meaning that if you deliberately
cough on a policeman or merchandise, which was what was going on at the time, you could
be charged with terrorism.
I think, you know, it's probably a stretch to get a conviction on that.
But at least there's the idea that it could be we do need to throw the book at these people.
This is not, you know, when we talk about anti-social behavior detrimental to all of
society where culturally, from a health standpoint, from any aspect, you want to look at this
not taking seriously people who go out and to make some kind of political point, I don't
even know what it is or because they're just out of their minds or a combination of the
two are coughing during a pandemic on people to scare them.
Right.
It's got to be taken as seriously as the law allows.
So I am all for if you if you can do a terrorism charge, do it.
If this is assault in the third degree under Nebraska law, go with it.
But the people have to call the police.
And I understand that this woman wrote, I just wanted to get out of there.
I'm not blaming her for that.
But let's all come together and say that if we see this stuff, let's make every effort
to actually get police involved and really make sure that these people, even if they
don't get convicted, have to spend months dealing with the justice system because of
the disgusting thing that they did.
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