I’M HOPING THE GROWN UPS WILL
RETURN.
THAT IS MY RIFT.
SPEAKING OF GROWN UPS, JOINING
ME NOW KELLYANNE CONWAY, FORMER
COUNSELOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMP,
PRESIDENT OF AK CONSULTING,
AUTHOR OF BOOK, HERE’S THE DEAL.
YOU’RE A GROWN-UP LOVE.
HAPPY TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE
SHOW.
I HAVE STUFF FOR YOU, THE
PRESIDENTIAL RACE, WHAT NOT, YOU
WANT TO TAKE A SWIPE AT THIS
MORTGAGE --th GOING TO
PENALIZE PEOPLE WHO DO THE RIGHT
THING AND GOING TO REWARD PEOPLE
WHO DO THE WRONG THING.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN
THIS COUNTRY, WHERE ARE THE
GROWNUPS?
>> THAT SIMPLY, LARRY, YOU PUT
IT CONSISTENTLY, PRECISELY
COGENTLY, POLICIES THEY ARE NOT
PAYING ATTENTION TO OR GORE SOME
ELSE’S OX, WILL END BADRY FOR
THEM.
YOUNGEST AMERICANS CAUGHT UP IN
THE FIRST RECESSION, NOW COVID,
THE KIDS ARE NOT ALL RIGHT,
TRYING TO AFFORD THE FIRST
HOMES, SINGLE, MARRIED
PLANNINGHAVE CHILDREN.
YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MORE LIKELY TO
GET A PET, TRAVEL TO A FOREIGN
NATION, TO CHANGE JOBS, MOVE TO
A DIFFERENT STATE THAN GET
MARRIED OR HAVE KIDS.
THAT IS PARTLY BECAUSE THEY
DON’T FEEL THEY CAN GET ON TO
THE NEXT ACCOUTREMENTS OF ADULT
LIFE, GET OUT OF DEBT, BUY THEIR
OWN HOME.
PAY ATTENTION WHAT IS GOING ON
IN WASHINGTON.
NOBODY SHOULD BE SURPRISED THE
SAME JOKERS WHO ARE AFFECTING
THIS POLICY ARE THE SAME ONES IN
CHARGE OF INFLATION, IN CHARGE
OF OVERALL ECONOMY, THE LACK OF
GROWTH, THE LACK OF INSPIRATION
IN OUR ECONOMY.
SO I WANT PEOPLE TO PAY
ATTENTION TO THIS BECAUSE I
BELIEVE, AND WE SEE IN ALL OF
OUR POLLING, LARRY, OWNING YOUR
OWN HOME IS STILL PART OF AN
INDIVIDUAL’S AMERICAN DREAM.
WE HAVE MULTIGENERATIONAL HOMES
NOW.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALONE IN
THEIR OWN HOMES.
BUT HAVING YOUR OWN PLACE, SPACE
AND PLACE TO CALL YOUR OWN, IS
SO ASPIRATIONAL AND GOVERNMENT
AGAIN TODAY IS SAYING NO.
LARRY: YES, MA’AM.
NOW LOOK AT THIS PRESIDENTIAL
RACE BECAUSE IT IS VERY
INTERESTING.
IT IS CHANGING RAPIDLY.
YOU AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING HERE
ON THE AIR, EVERY FEW WEEKS,
RIGHT NOW DONALD TRUMP, OUR
FORMER BOSS IS CRUSHING GOVERNOR
RON DESANTIS.
PART OF THIS I GUESS HAS TO DO
WITH THE ALVIN BRAGG JURY TRIAL,
OR GRAND JURY TRIAL.
PART OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH
DESANTIS.
KELLYANNE, START OUT WITH THIS,
TUM HAS GOT ALL OF THESE
ENDORSEMENTS, HE GOT A BIG LEAD
IN THE POLL.
HIS ENDORSEMENT LIST IS
UNBELIEVABLE BUT WE’LL GET TO
THAT IN A SECOND.
TRUMP RUNNING AGAINST DESANTIS,
IN MY VIEW DESANTIS IS RUNNING
AGAINST WALT DISNEY AND MICK
MICKEY MOUSE AND MINNIE MOUSE.
THAT IS A HUGE MISTAKE.
HIS OBSESSION HERE I THINK IS
REALLY DAMAGING HIM, PEOPLE, HIS
OWN BACKERS ARE PULLING AWAY.
MARK, SIMONE SAID ON THE AIR
LAST NIGHT, IF DONALD TRUMP, IF
HE HAD A DISPUTE WITH THE DISNEY
CORPORATION TRUMP WOULD HAVE
COME IN HIMSELF SOLVED IT IN A
DAY OR TWO.
HERE IS DESANTIS DEVOTING HIS
ENTIRE TIME TO IT.
TRUMP IS WAY AHEAD.
DESANTIS IS FIGHTING MICKEY
MOUSE.
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT?
>> THERE ARE A FEW REASONS FOR
THAT.
YOU CAPTURED IT PERFECTLY, ALSO
MARK SIMONE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS PULLING AWAY
OUT THERE AS FULL-TIME JOB
CAMPAIGNING FOR PRESIDENT.
HE HAS ANNOUNCED, FILING
PAPERWORK FIVE PLUS MONTHS AGO.
IF YOU WANT TO WIN YOU HAVE TO
PLAY.
SO MANY OTHERS ARE SUPPOSEDLY
RUNNING.
RON DESANTIS HAS A HUGE WAR
CHEST.
HE HAS DONE A HUGE JOB AS
GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA.
HAS A SPLASHY ANNOUNCEMENT,
HIRED CONSULTANTS, MAYBE RIGHT
PEOPLE, MAYBE NOT.
HE WASTED FIVE HALF MONTHS.
WE’LL LOOK AT TIME BETWEEN
NOVEMBER AND MAY, SIX MONTHS
WHAT IN THE WORLD HAPPENED.
DESANTIS AND TRUMP FLIPPED
PLACES WITHIN THE POLLS.
BEARS REPEATING, DONORS DON’T
CHOOSE THE NOMINEES IN OUR
PRESIDENTS, ANCHORS DON’T,
POLLSTERS DON’T, POLITICAL
DON’T, PEOPLE DO.
REPUBLICAN PRIMARY AND CAUCUS
CIVIL CANNOT STAND WHEN PEOPLE
TELL THEM WHO CAN WIN.
ELECTABILITY TO THEM IS A
FICTION.
THEY DON’T ASK WHO CAN WIN, THEY
ASK WHO CAN LEAD.
OTHER THING, DESANTIS, SAY IT
AGAIN ON YOUR SHOW, SPENDS TOO
MUCH TIME ON THE CULTURE WARS,
BEGINS WITH DISNEY AND MANY
OTHER THINGS.
WOKE IS IMPORTANT BUT YOU CAN’T
HAVE THAT AS REPLACEMENT FOR
BOLD, GROWTH CENTRIC ECONOMIC
PLAN.
I THINK DESANTIS SHOULD HAVE
POLICY PEOPLE FLYING INTO
TALLAHASSEE THE LAST SIX MONTHS
LAYING OUT WHAT THEY SAW A GREAT
TAX PLAN, ENERGY PLAN, EDUCATION
PLAN, CRIME PLAN.
HE HASN’T DONE THAT GIVE YOU ONE
STATISTIC TELLS THE TALE.
"UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPHSIRE
POLL" IN JANUARY, RON DESANTIS
BEATING DONALD TRUMP BY 13.
THE LATEST ONE, DONALD TRUMP
BEATING RON DESANTIS BY 20.
THAT IS A 33-POINT SWING IN
THREE MONTHS.
LARRY: WOW.
>> DESANTIS DOESN’T, HERE IS MY
LAST POINT, DESANTIS MADE A BIG
MISTAKE, IN MY VIEW, MY HUMBLE
VIEW, ALLOWING HIMSELF TO BE
SEEN AS ALTERNATIVE TO TRUMP.
HE SHOULD IS COME OUT TO SAY I’M
ALTERNATIVE BIDEN.
HE WOULD HAVE TRANSPORTED
HIMSELF INTO A GENERAL ELECTION
PLACE.
HE DIDN’T DO THAT.
TRUMP IS IN HIS HEAD.
LARRY: TRUMP IS IN HIS HEAD.
SO IS MICKEY MOUSE.
BIDEN’S NUMBERS, SPEAKING OF
BIDEN, ABSOLUTELY CRUMBLE.
LET’S SEE.
APPROVAL 39, DISAPPROVAL 54.
THIS IS IPSOS "REUTERS POLL"
APRIL 14 TO 16.
1000 ADULTS.
I YEARN FOR ADULTS.
BIDEN’S POLL AMONG ADULTS
GETTING CLOBBERED, ABSOLUTELY
GETTING CLOBBERED.
HERE IS THE INTERESTING THING,
NUMBER ONE, ALL THESE PEOPLE,
HOUSE MEMBERS, SENATORS,
GOVERNORS, COMING OUT FOR TRUMP.
TRUMP’S LIST OF ENDORSEMENTS IS
MASSIVE.
NOW ENDORSEMENTS DON’T ALWAYS ME
ANYTHING BUT IT IS SO
OVERWHELMING THE WAVE OF
ENDORSEMENTS, I HAVE TO FIND IT
INTERESTING.
THESE ARE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WAY
OUT IN FRONT, I HAD SENATOR
TUBERVILLE ON THE SHOW LAST
NIGHT.
HE ENDORSED TRUMP AGES AGO.
>> HE DID.
LARRY: OH THESE YOUNG REPORTERS
ASKING ME AM I STILL ENDORSING
TRUMP.
YES, WE NEED HIM.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS JUST
FASCINATING TO ME.
NOBODY REMOTELY COMPETES WITH
TRUMP ON POLLS AND ENDORSEMENTS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?
NOBODY’S CLOSE.
>> NOBODY IS EVEN CLOSE.
IT ACTUAL MATTERS LARRY FOR
ANOTHER REASON.
IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA OF
FLORIDA, TRUMP IS UP TO 13 HOUSE
MEMBERS AND IN RON DESANTIS’S
FLORIDA.
MAYOR SUAREZ WAS ASKED ON
FOX NEWS.
RON AS A PROBLEM WITH
RELATIONSHIPS LOOKING PEOPLE IN
THE EYE.
"WASHINGTON POST" REPORT QUOTED
OVERNIGHT VERN BUCHANAN GOT A
CALL PERSONALLY FROM
DONALD TRUMP.
GREG STUEBE GOT A CALL
PERSONALLY.
HE IS DELEGATING, THERE
ABDICATING ASK OF FLORIDA
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO MEET WITH
HIM AN ENDORSE HIM.
YOU CAN’T DO THAT.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK PEOPLE IN THE
EYE AND GO.
THAT IS WHAT RETAIL POLITICS IS.
IN ADDITION TO THE ENDORSEMENTS,
HERE IS THE PROBLEM FOR BIDEN.
ESPECIALLY AGAINST TRUMP BUT
HERE IS THE PROBLEM FOR BIDEN.
39% APPROVAL RATING DOESN’T
SCRATCH THE SURFACE ON POOR HIS
APPROVAL ON CORE ISSUES,
INFLATION, CRIME, BORDER HIS
PERSONAL ATTRIBUTES ARE A BIG
MESS.
67% OF AMERICANS SAY HE DOESN’T
HAVE THE STRENGTH OR STAN MA TO
BE PRESIDENT.
32% SAID SAY HE DOESN’T HAVE A
PLAN.
BARACK OBAMA, PERSONAL
ATTRIBUTES WERE PRETTY ROBUST.
PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE LIKE
THEM WERE TRYING HARD.
BIDEN HAS NONE OF THOSE.
HE HAS A VICE PRESIDENT
LITERALLY ADDS NOTHING TO THIS
TICKET.
SHE DETRACT AS WHOLE BUNCH.
HE CAN’T RELY UPON HER TO HELP
THEM WITH ANY CONSTITUENCY.
HER NUMBERS ARE JUST AS BAD IF
NOT WORSE THAN HIS.
LARRY: KELLYANNE, LAST ONE.
THERE IS A PERSON OUT THERE,
KEVIN MCCARTHY, YOU LOOK AT --
>> YES.
LARRY: HE HAS THE HIGHEST
APPROVAL, HE HAS THE BEST NET
APPROVAL NUMBER OF ANY
POLITICIAN.
WE LOOKED AT THIS TODAY OR LAST
NIGHT.
UP ON THE FULL SCREEN.
HE IS PLUS 10 ON APPROVAL, OKAY.
NOBODY, NOBODY HAS ANYTHING HIKE
THAT.
BY THE WAY MITCH McCONNELL IS
DEEPLY NEGATIVE.
ANYWAY, HERE’S KEVIN MCCARTHY
LEADING THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS
WITH A VERY GOOD PRO-GROWTH,
BUDGET CUTTING, DEBT INCREASING
DEAL, DEBT CEILING DEAL.
>> YES.
LARRY: ATTRACTIVE, VIGOROUS,
ENERGETIC, HAS SUBSTANTIVE
POSITION.
HERE IS JOE BIDEN GIVING THIS
RIDICULOUS BLARNEY SPEECH, MAGA
THIS, MAGA THAT, REPUBLICANS
DON’T WANT TO HELP RICH PEOPLE.
WE HEARD IT BEFORE.
IT IS SO OLD.
IT IS SO BORING.
HE LOOKS SO OLD.
McCARTHY CONTRAST WITH HIM IS
UNBELIEVABLE.
I GOT TO SAY TRUMP, WHETHER YOU
LIKE TRUMP OR NOT HE IS STILL
HAS A LOT OF ENERGY.
>> LOT OF VIGOR.
LARRY: A LOT OF VIGOR.
HE IS PUSHING ISSUES.
ANYWAY WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE
McCARTHY BUDGET DEAL?
RIGHT NOW I THINK HE IS WHOOPING
BIDEN.
GIVING BIDEN A TERRIBLE
WHOOPING, BIDEN MAY NOT KNOW IT
BUT HE IS GETTING CLOBBERED BY
McCARTHY.
>> IT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE.
KEVIN MCCARTHY DOING EXCELLENT
JOB AS SPEAKER.
42% APPROVAL RATING IS
REMARKABLE NOR ANY SPEAKER OF
HOUSE.
HIGHEST IN ANYONE IN RECENT
MEMORY.
CROSS TABS, AFRICAN-AMERICANS,
YOUNG PEOPLE HE IS DOING VERY
WELL PARTICULARLY FOR
REPUBLICANS.
I THINK IN A WORD IT IS CALLED
COMPETITION.
HE HAD TO GO THROUGH 15 BALLOTS
LARRY, TO GET THAT SPEAKERSHIP.
IT SHARPENS YOU.
DONALD TRUMP DOESN’T WANT TO BE
ONLY ONE ON THE DEBATE STAGE.
RONNA McDANIEL HAD
COMPETITION.
NEVER BETTER AT RNC CHAIR.
LISTENED TO VICE PRESIDENT
PENCE’S SPEECH, LISTEN TO
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SPEECH, SPENT
TIME WITH HIM.
BIDEN TO McCARTHY, McCARTHY
TO BIDEN, YOU SEE McCARTHY IS
ABLE TO ARTICULATE COMPLEX
ISSUES TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,
SAY LOOK, OF COURSE WE’LL BE
RESPONSIBLE ABOUT THE DEBT BUT
IT IS NOT GOING TO COME WITHOUT
CONCESSIONS BY THESE PEOPLE WHO
ARE RUINING THE ECONOMY IN THIS
COUNTRY BEGINNING WITH BIDEN.
I THINK McCARTHY TAKING BIDEN
ON SUPER SMART.
HE HARDLY EVER MENTIONS HAKEEM
JEFFRIES NAME.
DOESN’T MENTION NANCY PELOSI
ANYMORE.
TAKES ON JOE BIDEN BECAUSE
JOE BIDEN IS THE LEADER OF THE
PARTY.
HE HAS GOT MOST OF WASHINGTON,
RIGHT?
ALL BUT HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
AND HE IS RESPONSIBLE.
HE NEEDS TO EAT AND OWN ALL OF
HIS BAD ECONOMIC POLICIES.
LARRY: YEP.
>> McMcCARTHY IS MAKING HIM
DO THAT.
LARRY: HE IS GIVING HIM A BIG
WHOOPING.
DESANTIS HAS TO LEAVE MICKEY
MOUSE.
HE SHOULD START TALKING ABOUT
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEW YORK
AND FLORIDA ON TAXES AND GROWTH
AND ON EMPLOYMENT.
YOUR GROWTH MESSAGE.
I PREACH IT, YOU PREACH IT.
I AM GLAD TO HEAR IT.
TUM PUTTING OUT ISSUES STUFF.
>> HE IS.
LARRY: GAME MOVING RAPIDLY,